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Anayet
11-22-2001, 01:40 PM
If you have had a reseller account for a while, and eventually get a lot of clients - suppose you wanted to move from being a reseller to having your own server, how would you go about doing that?
What i mean, is that, how would you transfer all of the client files, folders, settings, your settings, Domain Names etc etc - how would you transfer everything to your server???


Thanks
Anayet

rence
11-22-2001, 02:06 PM
The Ensim techolnogy comes equipped with expandability and drag-and-drop capability.

First, the virtual server can be expanded within the physical server as you grow.

Next, when the virtual server becomes too big for the left space on the physical server, you can easily be dragged to another server, either as a larger virtual server, or as a fully dedicated physical server.

Since it's a virtual server, all the settings (files, folders, settings, domain names, etc.) stay the same through the move.

We have done the drag-and-drop before, and I can vouch that it works.

Anayet
11-22-2001, 06:42 PM
How do you transfer everything?

For example if you are a reseller for a company and you have servers at some completely different location and you want to move everything, is that possible?
Whats steps would you take?

and whats ensim technology:confused:



thanks:)

Justin S
11-22-2001, 08:47 PM
Ensim is a type of server control panel. I suppose rence thought you were using their control panel.

Anyway, it really depends on what control panel you're using (if you're using one at all), your operating system, etc.. Provide some specifics and maybe someone can help you out.

Lurleene
11-22-2001, 10:33 PM
You could go ahead and setup your accounts on your server (DNS, users, etc). then do a wget which allows you to transfer directly from one server to the next.

wmac
11-22-2001, 11:30 PM
Would you please tell more about this wget? Is it available in ensim only?

Thank you

rence
11-23-2001, 03:05 AM
wget is available for any server that has Linux. (You don't need Ensim for it.) Some versions of Linux may not have it pre-installed, but you can always compile it in there.

Well, here's one example of how to use wget:

On your old machine (if it's one using CPanel) use these commands to tar the files (where john is the username for the site, and john.tar is the name you use to create the tar file):
tar -cf test.tar john
mv johnf.tar /home/john/www/

On your new server, you would use the wget command:

wget 216.74.110.131/~john/johnf.tar

That would put the site on your new server. Then, you would have to move the file to the appropriate file and untar it.

rence
11-23-2001, 03:14 AM
I suppose rence thought you were using their control panel.

You are correct that I may have misunderstood Anayet, but in a different way. My assumption (which may be incorrect) was that Anayet has not started reselling yet, but wants to know what to do in the future if the need arose for dedicated.

My response was that one way is to already be prepared by starting with a company that has the such technology I previously mentioned.

Ericwenlong
11-23-2001, 04:16 AM
Anayet ,

Have you started reselling yet ? If you have, what control panel are you using currently ? and OS ?

wmac
11-23-2001, 04:23 AM
oooh,

I did not knew anything about wget and I used to tar and untar it in shell environment.

Then I used to transfer files using normal FTP.

Mac

akashik
11-23-2001, 04:48 AM
*offtopic*

The day I discovered wget I was a very happy lad. It's very handy for a ton of things, script installation for one.. Just wget from sourceforge (or wherever) right to the account and tar :)

*/offtopic*

Probably the hardest thing to get use to with transfering things from one server to another is getting your head around the fact nothings coming at you, but rather just being transferred from one server directly to another (it's been coined sideloading on occasion)

You may need to ask your provider to do it though depending on the access you have as a reseller, and whether you're able to pack everything up yourself. From the new server it's not too hard to nab them as long as you know where all the tar files will be sitting.

Greg Moore

bitserve
11-24-2001, 10:25 AM
We had to do this once, a long time ago.

It is not easy or fun. My best recommendation is to do it slowly. Start out moving one customer a day if you have to, and move your way up.

Keep your customers notified at all times, and give them warning (schedule the maintenance).

We lost only one customer, because he was using some fly by night registrar and was unwilling to assist us with changing his authoritative domain name servers.

We just used tar and gzip to tar up each user's account and move it over to the new servers by ftp. The hard part for us was moving their email (because we switched from sendmail to qmail), and moving FrontPage webs.

If you really have no idea on how you're going to accomplish this, I would recommend hiring someone.

JMolina
11-26-2001, 02:31 AM
Another way is to FXP things over from one server to another. It might take a bit longer but all you do with FXP protocol is Transfer everything from one FTP to another, using server to server bandwidth instead of yours. You can be on a 56k Modem and be transfering 100megs in 10 minutes.

more info can be found at http://www.flashfxp.com

bobcares
11-26-2001, 04:00 PM
wget is cool.
However on can even try scp. This is a good software for secure copy.

Have a great day :)

Regards
amar