Regarding from Money Magazine I bough today and realized this:

Sarasota, Florida rated the best place to live 6 out of 5 other cities which are:

Portland, OR

New York, NY

Austin, TX

Ann Arbor, MI

Providence, RI

Missoula, MN


This is 3rd time in row. I still do not understand why its still the best city but Sarasota, the city itself is history already becuase since Sept. 11th attacks when President Bush was here and he was about 2 blocks away from my house when he was visitng a school around 9am while the plane attacked World Trade Center.

Sarasota, FL also spends heavy on education, big time. Remember Al Gore paid a visit here few times ? you must remember when he spoke on tv and telling 'Sarasota, Florida has problems of overcrowding school with students where they cant sit and learn" and show a picture on tv, which amazed me.

There is more things to tell, Jerry Springler murder, author of Steven King bough a waterfront house here for $33 Million, I think, the only america student peforming circus.

Anyone what you think? I do not know how this happen but I need know the truth.

Let's take a vote, shall we?

I'm not from the U.S, but hey ;) i voted Florida!

I have to give my vote to Providence, RI not only because I have lived here all my life but I think that Providence has everything you ever need. Its quit but it also has its "loud" spots. Its a very romantic city, esp. at nite. Its what I think a mix of NY, Boston, and Beverly Hills.

And on what spot did Providence land on?

Does RI have any professional sports teams? *Mind is blank* :confused:

I like Oregon. It's perty.

Dover, Delaware

I am serious, it is awesome here, 1 hour to Baltimore, 90 minutes to Philly, 90 minutes to D.C. 3 hour train ride to NY.

Extremely Cheap to live here, 40 minutes to Beaches, Slots, Horse Racing, NASCAR if you like that stuff, three Colleges, pretty darn cool. :)

I think Readers Digest had us in the top 30 places to live....well small towns I think.

Well about the sport I really dont know since I am really not into them.

Oh and about the collages we have well a little too many. We have some of the best collages in the USA. Like Brown, RISD, J&W, and many others like URI, PC, RWU, and BC. We are really small. We also have the smallest National Park. And also we are in the smallest state. I think that being the smallest is something to be proud of.

It is not Missoula, MN (as mentioned in your post), it's MT (Montana). I live in MN. I know. Never heard of Missoula.

Hey, anyone from Ames, Iowa? I can't take a part in this poll :bawling: since I have yet to visit America next spring.

Ummm... Iowa? anyone?

Originally posted by Quill
Hey, anyone from Ames, Iowa? I've spent some time in Ames. Believe me, it doesn't belong on this list.

I've also been to Austin a few times, and still go to Ann Arbor occasionally as the beneficiary of a sort-of-wonderful long distance relationship with a woman in Michigan. And I have a client which brings me to Providence RI from time to time. I was in Portland on a vacation two years ago.

So I voted for NYC. Because there's no comparison, and there's no competition.

Seattle Washington... I love that city...

if we can wreck the thread even more and go international:

Brisbane, Australia... It's just a great town. :)

Greg Moore

Vancouver, Canada is often ranked as the best city in the world to live in.

Shortly before that, Sioux Falls, SD was Money magazine's #1 city. That is where I live, work, and entertain myself.

Anything between New York and LA is farms. :)

:D :D

Originally posted by JayC
I've spent some time in Ames. Believe me, it doesn't belong on this list.

I'm talking about Iowa State University at Ames, Iowa. It's depressing to hear that :bawling: Why? Why? Why? Why it doesn't belong on the list?

Hey where's Cleveland!?
We easily have the best sports teams. The Browns are what 5-4, the Indians have won the Division Title like 6 times in the in the past 10 years. And...
*Is stumped at what else Cleveland has besides good sports teams*
Oh yeah it is where I live, so that makes it a great city ;)... hehe J/K

Somewhere I read San Diego is the most fit city or something...

Originally posted by inogenius
Hey where's Cleveland!?
We easily have the best sports teams. The Browns are what 5-4, the Indians have won the Division Title like 6 times in the in the past 10 years. And...
*Is stumped at what else Cleveland has besides good sports teams*
Oh yeah it is where I live, so that makes it a great city ;)... hehe J/K

You forgot to mention the Cleveland Cavaliers, the sucky NBA team. :D

Well, i'm not quite sure it's a city, but my favorite one is Moab, Utah... :)

Originally posted by Quill


I'm talking about Iowa State University at Ames, Iowa. It's depressing to hear that :bawling: Why? Why? Why? Why it doesn't belong on the list?

I have a very close friend of mine that lives in Ames. Her husband is a teacher over at ISU in Ames. She use to be a counseler there at ISU until she had a baby in 2000. Its a small town... mostly farms all over the place though... nothing spectacular there... but its quiet.

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I live in Sarasota. Its the best place I've lived in. I've lived in Michigan, California, and Jacksonville, Florida, and nothing compares to Sarasota.

VERY low crime rate -- violent crimes don't usually happen here. I mean I went from a place where we heard sirens all the time, and then moved here in June, and we barely every hear sirens... And when we do, its like, "What the heck is going on..." I'm sure JosephP will vouche for this.

It has one of the best school systems in America. Riverview High School, here in Sarasota,is right there at the top of the list of best high schools in American.

Ringling Bros. and Barnum and Bailey's Circus originated here in Sarasota. John Ringling lived here. His mansion is here, its a museum now. An Art museum, a car museum, Circus Museum... The Ringling School of Art is here. There is a clown school here... There is Circus City -- which is a community of retired circus workers -- thats just down the street from me.

Great beaches -- Siesta Key boasts some of the best sands in Florida! You can walk barefoot along the beach and not have to worry about hot sand. Its nice!

And you can go downtown without having to worry about crime. Downtown is the home of a LOT of wealth people. Downtown is only a 5 minute walk from the water's edge -- 10 minutes from the beach (beach equals the keys).

Its great!

I can't think of another place where I'd want to raise a family! We love it here!

Tonya

Then I'll move to Sarasota, Florida! Any good university there in Sarasota? :D How about the living cost? People told me Florida has one of the highest living cost in the states.

The University of South Florida is here. http://www.usf.edu

Tampa is an hour's drive north of here.

There is the Ringling School of Art -- one of the best Art schools in the country.

Cost of living varies on where you live within the city. We're about 2 miles from the coast. Right in the middle of the city. 6 miles from the airport and 3 miles from I-75 (an major highway). This complex we pay $585/month for 2 bedrooms/2 bathrooms -- 1000 square foot apartment. There are better looking apartment complexes with bigger pools, better clubhouses, etc. But you get what you pay for in those places. You want more, you better have the money to pay more. Our complex is quite nice actually. Especially for the price. The highest apartment here is $610/month -- 2 bed/2bath 1000sq/ft and that's a downstairs apt with a fenced in patio.

And if you like to read.... Sarasota has a very nice public library! Beautiful! I have my 21 month old son to reading time every week. He loves it there. :)

Tonya

Originally posted by rockergrrl
...$585/month for 2 bedrooms/2 bathrooms -- 1000 square foot apartment. There are better looking apartment complexes with bigger pools, better clubhouses, etc. But you get what you pay for in those places. You want more, you better have the money to pay more. Our complex is quite nice actually. Especially for the price. The highest apartment here is $610/month -- 2 bed/2bath 1000sq/ft and that's a downstairs apt with a fenced in patio.

:eek: I'd be lucky to find a studio apartment for under $600 around here. Ah, the joys of Boston area...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by rewdog
Does RI have any professional sports teams? *Mind is blank* :confused:

No, but they have some semi-pro teams. The Pawtucket Red Sox (Boston's triple-A club) are in R.I. The Providence Bruins (the Boston Bruins farm club) are in R.I.

And, Providence is only a little more than an hour away from Boston, so it's easy to get to Red Sox, Celtics, and Bruins games, and they're even closer to Foxborough to get to Patriots games.

I have to second that Providence is a *great* city. I've never lived there, but I am always very impressed whenever I've visited.

However, I have always felt, and probably always will feel, that there is no better city to live in than Boston. Yes, it's a very expensive place to live (though less costly than New York or Los Angeles), but it's a beautiful city, it has everything you could ever hope for.

It's funny - I grew up in a small town, lived there for 17 years, moved to Boston for only 2 years, and then went back to small-town living - but even though I've only lived 2 years in Boston, I still consider it to be the best place I ever lived. I loved it.

I definitely would choose Boston over any of the other places in that poll (with the possible exception of Providence - it's a toss-up I think). Florida and Texas are just too hot for me. Michigan is too cold. Oregon is too rainy. I've never been to Montana, so I can't comment on that. And as for New York - well, it's a perfectly nice place to live, I'm sure, but I could never live in the same town as the Yankees!

Jason

Originally posted by Quill
I'm talking about Iowa State University at Ames, Iowa. It's depressing to hear that :bawling: Why? Why? Why? Why it doesn't belong on the list? Nothing particularly wrong with it, except that it's in the middle of nowhere. Other than that, it's like a lot of other midwestern college towns like Madison WI, Bloomington IN, Lincoln NE... even Ann Arbor, which somehow made it to the list. Ann Arbor's an OK city, but not anything so much more special than hundreds of other places.

Of course it's hard to know what ranking criteria were used in compiling this list without reading the article. If anyone's interested in this kind of stuff by the way, I'd recommend looking at "The Places Rated Almanac," which you could find in bookstores and libraries in the US. The thoroughly explain the rankings, and lay out a procedure for changing the weighting of each type of score so that you can rank by what's important to you. For example, if you have kids you might want Education to be weighted higher than other factors; if you're a multimillionair you might rank Cost of Living lower.

put seattle in the options :)
i'll choose that

While I am a New Yorker and a heavily biased one at that I would like to point out that one great thing you listed is more representative of New York than anywhere else.

This is not meant to be a "New York Rules and your city sux" post, quite the opposite, simply there is not enough representaion on this thread for a city of 8 million


Originally posted by josephp
Regarding from Money Magazine I bough today and realized this:




This is 3rd time in row. I still do not understand why its still the best city but Sarasota, the city itself is history already becuase since Sept. 11th attacks when President Bush was here and he was about 2 blocks away from my house when he was visitng a school around 9am while the plane attacked World Trade Center.




But do remember that NYC IS Sept. 11. Whenever someone mentions Sept. 11, the thing most people will think of first is the World Trade Center



It has always been fashionable to bash New York and New Yorkers and that has subsided somewhat in the last few months but NY is more than what is portrayed in the movies and on TV

In a through NYC you can pass through quiet waterfront properties, lively middleclass neighborhoods (each with its own touch of ethnic flavor), a fast-paced financial haven, an upperclass neighborhood next to central park and so on.

New York really is amazing when you realize that in 322 sq. miles (LA is 467 sq. miles) you have 8 million people from very, very different backgrounds, and yet we get by.

The only people not surprised by the way New Yorkers came together on 9/11 were New Yorkers, sure, we are a**holes, but when push comes to shove we work together, we help each other, we are there for each other.

As for what NYC has to offer well, some of the best restaurants, theaters, hotels, sports, museums, cultural events, job opportunities, night life, colleges, fashion, media and parks in the world.

Many will point out that it is quite expensive to live in New York and it is more expensive than in other cities, but do bear in mind that 2-bedroom apprtments that go for $600 are 20 minutes away from studios (the size of a closet) that go for $2000, its like running a business, sure its nice to have a store on the busiest street in the city, but if you can't afford it, there are many options.

just my 2 cents

Why did they choose Austin out of all the Texas cities? I was there and it totally sucks compared to Dallas. Is it because it's Texas's capitol?

I think Dallas rules Texas ;)

Dallas and Austin are both great. Austin has the enormous University of Texas as well as just about every major tech company in the US. Austin and Dallas are both pretty nice on the wallet as far as cost of living. The DFW metroplex also has quite a bit, many many many colleges, UNT, UT Dallas, numerous Christian universities, etc, I think theres over 20 major colleges in the area. University of Texas is a top 50 college if you are looking for prestige. Both cities have a great night life. 6th street in Austin and Deep Ellum (Also the West End) in Dallas. I have always seen Austin as a better place to live, though, its not so overcrowded, the traffic isn't as bad, pollution isn't as bad, basically its a big city without having big city problems. Both cities have exceptional schools in the suburbs. Round Rock in Austin generally has a good reputation, as does Plano in Dallas.