Lain
11-21-2001, 12:34 PM
I don't know if this should go in the Resellers' Forum or not. I want to know how you can tell if a person is a webhost or a reseller.
One of the message boards I go to, a large majority of the members are girls, especially new domain owners. There is a forum where they ask for suggestions on a good webhost. There is an individual by the name of "Timmy" who, every time a member asks for good webhost suggestions, plugs his "business" paradise-designs.net In addition to plugging his site, he also bashes the other webhosts the other girls suggest. A great deal of the domains are hosted by Hostrocket, and he says HR sucks. He has nothing to back up what he says. It's all hearsay. On the other hand, I am a current client of HR, and I can offer my experience with them.
Now one of his current clients posted a request in the Hosting forum, asking for someone to host her domain, because hers is always down.
To which Timmy replies
"listen, it is not my fault. We emailed registerclub the domain registar about this. They're saying the system is refusing the ips why I don't know for sure. They're going to put them directly in the system instead of the way they did with the automatic system. It is not mine. It is the registar. They're working on it so it will be changed. It will be taken care of hopefully today."
I ask the person if paradise-designs was a reseller, and she said:
"no its a stupid hosting service. (a scam.) among other things. i know someone else who left p-d.net with me. so its not JUST me."
Timmy replies:
"It is not a scam. No we're not a reseller we have a Dedicated Server. We not a scam. I have other clients that you can ask. Yes amy from TaintedJayne left cause she got sick of waiting on the dns changed and among a few little things. Try us out if you want you get a 7 day trial and 30day money back guartee so. If you don't like get your money back geesh."
My experience with this individual:
Months ago, I encountered him over AIM when I was at school. I didn't know he was Timmy at the time. I thought he was some teenybopper. He told me he got my name from the board (I was an admin then). He was harassing me to help him with the chromeless window script, even though I never have used that script before. Finally, I don't hear from him again.
I forgot all about him until I opened geek-chic.net. At the time Athena and I were excited about starting the e-zine (now that project is dead). We put up a list of available positions, one being advertising editor. He IMed me, saying he wanted to be in charge of advertising. I told him I'd have to discuss it with Athena. Then he said that I didn't have to, that Athena already said that he could be an editor.I know Athena would never do that, and later on my hunch was right. Athena IMs me, saying if some guy named Webmonster86 tries to IM me, block him. Too late, I told her. I already blocked three of his names. In that time he had hinted that not only did he wanted to be part of our design team (which was by invite only) but he also had the gall to ask to be an editor-in-chief and an admin on our forums!
My experience with this person has caused me to take every word he says with a grain of salt.
It is my opinion that he is taking advantage of the new domain owner's ignorance of hosting. The problem is, how can I back up what I'm saying? How do I know for sure that he is a reseller, not on a dedicated server, as he claims? It's my word against his.
One of the message boards I go to, a large majority of the members are girls, especially new domain owners. There is a forum where they ask for suggestions on a good webhost. There is an individual by the name of "Timmy" who, every time a member asks for good webhost suggestions, plugs his "business" paradise-designs.net In addition to plugging his site, he also bashes the other webhosts the other girls suggest. A great deal of the domains are hosted by Hostrocket, and he says HR sucks. He has nothing to back up what he says. It's all hearsay. On the other hand, I am a current client of HR, and I can offer my experience with them.
Now one of his current clients posted a request in the Hosting forum, asking for someone to host her domain, because hers is always down.
To which Timmy replies
"listen, it is not my fault. We emailed registerclub the domain registar about this. They're saying the system is refusing the ips why I don't know for sure. They're going to put them directly in the system instead of the way they did with the automatic system. It is not mine. It is the registar. They're working on it so it will be changed. It will be taken care of hopefully today."
I ask the person if paradise-designs was a reseller, and she said:
"no its a stupid hosting service. (a scam.) among other things. i know someone else who left p-d.net with me. so its not JUST me."
Timmy replies:
"It is not a scam. No we're not a reseller we have a Dedicated Server. We not a scam. I have other clients that you can ask. Yes amy from TaintedJayne left cause she got sick of waiting on the dns changed and among a few little things. Try us out if you want you get a 7 day trial and 30day money back guartee so. If you don't like get your money back geesh."
My experience with this individual:
Months ago, I encountered him over AIM when I was at school. I didn't know he was Timmy at the time. I thought he was some teenybopper. He told me he got my name from the board (I was an admin then). He was harassing me to help him with the chromeless window script, even though I never have used that script before. Finally, I don't hear from him again.
I forgot all about him until I opened geek-chic.net. At the time Athena and I were excited about starting the e-zine (now that project is dead). We put up a list of available positions, one being advertising editor. He IMed me, saying he wanted to be in charge of advertising. I told him I'd have to discuss it with Athena. Then he said that I didn't have to, that Athena already said that he could be an editor.I know Athena would never do that, and later on my hunch was right. Athena IMs me, saying if some guy named Webmonster86 tries to IM me, block him. Too late, I told her. I already blocked three of his names. In that time he had hinted that not only did he wanted to be part of our design team (which was by invite only) but he also had the gall to ask to be an editor-in-chief and an admin on our forums!
My experience with this person has caused me to take every word he says with a grain of salt.
It is my opinion that he is taking advantage of the new domain owner's ignorance of hosting. The problem is, how can I back up what I'm saying? How do I know for sure that he is a reseller, not on a dedicated server, as he claims? It's my word against his.