Anyone use Level 3? I heard good things about Yipes but at $230/mbs its a bit pricey. I have also heard good things about level 3. Not sure how long they are going to stay up but some say $130/mbs. Maybe I am off on current pricing of Level 3 but I heard they network is pretty good.

yipes handles really metro ip and peers with level 3 and uunet

Overall bandwidth is cheaper

Just so you know 230 for a mbps is very cheap


Joe

Originally posted by JBIZ718
yipes handles really metro ip and peers with level 3 and uunet

Overall bandwidth is cheaper

Just so you know 230 for a mbps is very cheap


Joe

Sorry its only $230/mbs if you buy 100mb/s its $300/mbs if you buy less

They are different thigns. Yipes is NOT a Tier 1 backbone and is not trying to as far as I can see. They buy transit from uunet and level3 so they are teir 2 isp. Level3 is a tier 1 backbone. So level3 is one of the best backbones out they're they have good peering. And yipes is also good. I believe affordablecolo uses yipes. Some people misuse the word peering.

What is the web address for yipes and level3?

well i think yipes is very solid and even at 300 per mbps thats also extremely cheap

I would take uunet, c&w, sprint and genuity over level 3, but they are good

Yipes simple peers with UUnet and Level 3, you may call it buying transit, but yipes doesnt own there own fiber, so there peering arrangments are with level 3 and uunet

Companies peer with other companies all the time

Joe

http://level3.com
http://yipes.com

Originally posted by JBIZ718
well i think yipes is very solid and even at 300 per mbps thats also extremely cheap

I would take uunet, c&w, sprint and genuity over level 3, but they are good

Yipes simple peers with UUnet and Level 3, you may call it buying transit, but yipes doesnt own there own fiber, so there peering arrangments are with level 3 and uunet

Companies peer with other companies all the time

Joe


Why would 300 per mbps be cheap? I see lots of places selling at 1 buck per gig with a server. I wonder how they are able to do that. 1 gig of transfers is 1 gig of transfer no matter who you buy it from. Its just bandwidth. How are companys able to pay the bills, higher techs and staff and make a profit at selling at 1 dollar per gig?

If your commiting to 10 Mb and your paying more than $225 per Mb your paying to much.:rolleyes:

I can only assume companies charging $1 per gb are going out of business nearterm or are buying latency ridden bandwith from Cogent.

How can you call it peering. Peering is exchanging traffic between 2 networks. IE: UUNet and Level3 peering together... If Yipes only peers with level3 and uunet then only people on the uunet/level3 networks would be able to reach them so its called buying transit. To call it peering is just not right.

If your commiting to 10 Mb and your paying more than $225 per Mb your paying to much.Well, that's a pretty general statement :)

Bandwith pricing is all relevent to what you are willing to commit to and the quality of the carrier. Thats also a general statment but reality.

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Originally posted by ProjectJB
I can only assume companies charging $1 per gb are going out of business nearterm or are buying latency ridden bandwith from Cogent.

Would getting 100mb from Cogent and BGP with 10mb from Yipes be a good idea? Or BGP with Level 3 since Yipes peers with them. I think Level 3 is cheaper than Yipes.

Ummm...never mind my last reply. :)

Level3 and Yipes are 2 completly different networks, Yipes utilizes level3 and uunet and qwest and uses bgp routing to insure redundancy and speed. While Level3's network is just level 3 and no redundancy. Level3 is fast and they may be alittle cheaper but not enough to justify them price wise over yipes.

THEY DO NOT PEER WITH LEVEL3 THEY BUY TRANSIT FROM THEM... GET IT THROUGH YOU'RE HEADS...

Originally posted by ProjectJB
If your commiting to 10 Mb and your paying more than $225 per Mb your paying to much.:rolleyes:

Um, no. You'd be hard pressed to buy bandwidth from any tier-1 provider for $225/mbps.

What are the differences between teir 1 and 2?

Tier1 means the company owns their entire network, all the fiber etc. Tier2 is when a company gets transit from another company such as uunet/level3 etc

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Um, no. You'd be hard pressed to buy bandwidth from any tier-1 provider for $225/mbps.
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Are you saying that $225 per Mb from a tier 1 is to much Planet Z?

Originally posted by ClusterMania


Would getting 100mb from Cogent and BGP with 10mb from Yipes be a good idea? Or BGP with Level 3 since Yipes peers with them. I think Level 3 is cheaper than Yipes.

I would choose Level 3 over Cogent any day if latency is an issue. If price is your main drive go for Cogent.

Bsically.
Tier 1 = No transit only peering
Tier 2 = Buying transit from tier 1s.

Originally posted by ProjectJB
Are you saying that $225 per Mb from a tier 1 is to much Planet Z?

I think that he's saying just the opposite. That would be a good price coming from a tier 1 provider.

-Joe

can be much cheeper from a tier one if you commit to enough
trust me

Originally posted by ProjectJB
can be much cheeper from a tier one if you commit to enough
trust me

Sure, if you commit to enough. However, your original post was talking about committing to 10mbps. 10mbps is nothing to a tier-1 backbone.

I agree but a co-lo host with tier 1 connectivity can provide that pricing for a 10Mb commit

Have a happy Turkey day all I'm out of here

A tier1 can provide quality bandwidth for under 200.00/mbps??? what provider is this?

10 meg commit around $250/meg., 100 meg commit for under $200/meg. That is roughly what my company is putting out right now for a Tier 1 network. Happy Thanksgiving!

But that is only one network.

you are correct...but if you are in our data center, you can connect to other carriers, or through one of our partners, you can connect to Yipes, but not Cogent.

Yipes = GOD :)

My server is on a Yipes backbone and all i can is they are SUPERB!

Exactly who is your company samson

How much is it for a 1MBPS from yipes into the Colo4Dallas data center?

Hmm if thats addressed to me i dont think i can answer it without breaking forum ruls you can contact me at charles@webworkscorp.com with any questions.

I sent you a PM