This is for websites looking for professional hosting at an affordable price. Your site will be hosting on Sun Microsystem servers not the usual servers you find on all other hosts... over $30,000 spent on each server! (no thats not a typo ;))

350 MB of Webspace.
25,000 MB of Web Traffic.
MySQL.
Web Access, Error Logs & FTP Log Files.
100 POP3 E-mail Accounts.
Unlimited E-mail Autoreponders & Forwarders.
Web Interface to Check E-mail.
25 FTP Accounts with Anonymous FTP Access.
Telnet and SSH 1/2 Access.
HTTP-Analyze Site Statistics & Counters.
FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions.
Secure Server (SSL) Access.
Perl & PHP Scripting, Custom Error Pages.
Macromedia ShockWave.
Real audio & video
Web-Based File Management.
Personal Control Panel 4.0.
Own SMTP Server
E-Mail For Subdomains
MajorDomo Lists
Mailing List Manager
Miva Empressa
Excite! Search Engine
Password Manager
Custom Error Pages
File Manager
DNS Management
FAQ Manager
SurveyTime
EventCalendar
UltraBoard
Web Adverts
Price Freeze Guarantee
99.5% Upitme Guarantee
$23/month + $10 setup


The list is never-ending, i have tried to include the main features. If you need to know something in particular just post a reply and i will answer because there are too many features to list. This offer is NOT available on our site, pleas email me if you are interested.

if you are interested email wht@magicz.com

nothing against thing the deal sounds good, but why would you spend 30k on a server when it will be worth half the price in 1 year

Just a strange thing to put money into

most of the money is spent on software for the servers.

thanks for the note anyway ;)

Can you list out the full specs of the hardware?

Also, what control panels would users be using?

We are utilizing Sun Microsystems & Compaq Hardware for Our Shared Server Platforms which can handle gazillions of hits/month (yes that is a new word you need to add to your dictionary :P).
I cant tell you exact specs becuase we are constantly investing in getting new servers all the time, so your account may be on a different server than what i mention here. Rest assured that your account will be on a top-of-the range server... not the normal intel pentium system built by Joe Bloggs.
We also employ, NOCSYSV which is a very scalable, modular application that handles the monitoring of all systems, applications, and circuits within our operations. All hardware failures will be replaced with 24 hours (we have only had 3 hardware issues on our shared server platform over the past 4 years).

The control panel is custom built software and has many features. Our PCP software was developed in 1997 and has been improved to perfection. Over $1,000 of Free Software is included with your account! From UltraBoard bulletin board application to Excite! search engine, everything can be installed and customised through the PCP.

On what network are the servers? Sprintlink?
The package sounds very very interesting :cool:

We currently maintain over 200Mb of aggregate bandwidth on 4 transit circuits from UUNet Technologies, Sprint Communications, and Global Crossing. All of these connections are full 45 Mb DS-3 circuits. Additionally, we maintain long-haul peering to the AADS NAP in Chicago, where we peer with 43 network providers.

I've got 2 Netra X1s sitting idle that I could put Oracle onto and boost the "cost of the server" to many thousands of dollars (Oracle on a Netra -- hehe). What costs $30,000 that you will be putting on a shared server for the average Joe Bloggs and only charge $23/mo to access? If it's worth that much, I may just sign up myself. ;)

I'm sure you'll get many more sales if you offer more information on the servers. The network connectivity is outstanding. Can't hurt to top it off with server specs, even if you are "constantly investing in new servers." :)

If I was to sign up right now, what server would I be placed on and what is its hardware configuration? What is the expensive software that is installed on the server that would entice me to purchase a plan?

Example server: MAGICZ

MAGICZ is a powerful Sun Microsystems 250 Enterprise Server. MAGICZ is running dual 300MHz UltraSparc II Processors, each with 2MB of Cache, and 1,024 MB of memory. MAGICZ is running on Solaris 2.7 release 05/99 with Apache 1.3.3 and has over 100GB of drive capacity, running in a RAID-5 configuration. More information on the Sun E250 server :
http://www.sun.com/servers/workgroup/250/

NOTE: not all servers are the same.

This information is all available through the PCP.

Allera, we have almost every software you could want installed on the server. Some software is not available to this account eg Miva shopping cart, Chilisoft ASP... to get these will need to upgrade to a better account.

Is your company affiliated with Communitech.net in any way?

yes we are affiliated with Communitech... but we are undercutting their prices!

BTW Evan, do you make a habit of ruining other people's advertisements or is this your first time? :angry:

Originally posted by Matlok
On what network are the servers? Sprintlink?
The package sounds very very interesting :cool:

I might be mistaken, but I think it's Burstnet

I think its just wrong that people that post advertisments dont list all the facts about everything

If you are affiliated with communitech then say that, but now you dont look good


Joe

do you really think ANYONE signs up to a reseller in these forums? NO.

And thanks to Evan i just lost a sale that was just about to go through. BTW, y does being a reseller make me "look bad"? My customer support is much faster than Communitech could ever dream of :)

I have to side with Magic on this. This is his thread, and anyone posting in this thread should not affect the thread in a disadvantagous way to its owner.
In the special offer forum, people should only ask legitimate question(e.g. doubtful claims, unlimited bandwidth...), and not try to uncover everything possible about a host. If you do need in depth information, I do think it will be more appropriate to use PM instead of just a general post.

Peter

Originally posted by Magic
BTW, y does being a reseller make me "look bad"?

That's not the point. You look bad for trying to deceive people, not for being a reseller. I'm not saying you should advertise you're a reseller, but I think it's wrong to pretend you're something you're not.

Originally posted by ckpeter
I have to side with Magic on this. This is his thread, and anyone posting in this thread should not affect the thread in a disadvantagous way to its owner.
In the special offer forum, people should only ask legitimate question(e.g. doubtful claims, unlimited bandwidth...), and not try to uncover everything possible about a host. If you do need in depth information, I do think it will be more appropriate to use PM instead of just a general post.

Peter


I don't think asking if he is affiliated with Communitech.net is not a legitimate question.

Well, may be he doesn't want other people to know that he is a reseller. But that's normal for most reseller -- They want to appear as independent. And it is also true that some people will disregard reseller. Magic was not trying to deceive/lie, he simply did not disclose his reseller background(in fact, he even admit to it).

I am not saying that's the absolute right thing to do, but it is normal for he to do.

Peter

I don't see anything wrong being admitting as a reseller. You are posting such details and portray as if you yourself indeed invested such huge sums of money onto the server. Anyone who reads that......invested over $30000 on the server........and charge such low fees for such service........do you not think that there is something wrong in the calculations ?

You cannot blame others for asking if you are a reseller. I don't see any harm admitting as a reseller as long as you provide good service.

Let me put a question to you, if I ask you whether you are a reseller before anyone knows you are reselling for communitech, what would you answer? Do you intend to lie to me and say you are not a reseller ?

We currently maintain over 200Mb of aggregate bandwidth on 4 transit circuits from UUNet Technologies, Sprint Communications, and Global Crossing. All of these connections are full 45 Mb DS-3 circuits. Additionally, we maintain long-haul peering to the AADS NAP in Chicago, where we peer with 43 network providers.


Who do you refer 'we ' to ? If you yourself are comsuming 200 Mbps from through Communitech, I have nothing to say. But if you are not utilising those, I guess it is not proper to propose such figures to your potential clients.:)

Originally posted by JBIZ718
I think its just wrong that people that post advertisments dont list all the facts about everything

If you are affiliated with communitech then say that, but now you dont look good


Joe

Joe, you interested in this hosting package? If not, then please do not post in your competitor's threads.

Originally posted by Magic
do you really think ANYONE signs up to a reseller in these forums? NO.

And thanks to Evan i just lost a sale that was just about to go through. BTW, y does being a reseller make me "look bad"? My customer support is much faster than Communitech could ever dream of :)

Magic, I don't think it is unreasonable for members to ask questions, such as who your provider is (in the case of either leased lines, or hosts), and really, here it would be nearly impossible to hide the fact you are indeed a reseller on a board like this. (Hosts however, should not be posting in their competitor's threads).

Maybe I'll talk to Matt about disabling replies in this forum as well.

Originally posted by Chicken

Maybe I'll talk to Matt about disabling replies in this forum as well.

I think that's a good idea Chicken, That way you don't get the "I emailed you" or "I PMed you please check them". As well as have any other competition post in the thread making a host or someone trying to do something for himself look bad.

Chicken, yes i agree, anyone can ask if im a reseller, and i will answer truthfully... but when i know the ONLY reason they are asking is to put me down ie Evan... then it gets very annoying.

BTW, have you noticed that every good deal that is advertised is indirectly insulted by other hosting competitors? I think disabling replies would be a very good idea.

Well, from what I have seen from time to time, I'd have to agree that it is the hosts that reply with attacks, not the customers who are looking for a package.

Originally posted by Magic


BTW, have you noticed that every good deal that is advertised is indirectly insulted by other hosting competitors? I think disabling replies would be a very good idea.

And to everyone else....

I would assume most of the people on these forums are actually resellers, and dont have their own dedicated servers or run their own NOCs.
I have yet to see a hosting company start their advertising with:

I am a reseller of....

If you see any, be sure to let me know ;)

But Magic, you are freaking out (Well, at least to my eyes) after you were forced to tell that you are a communitech.net reseller. It doesn't look good. (I think.)

LOL... freaking out? no. If you visit my site, you will see that im not even a reseller for Communitech :). I was trying to do a favour for a friend... which didnt go very far because of the dog eat dog competition here.

What makes me upset is the fact the people critisize just to stop your customers, and for no real reason.

To Randy: In your terms... every reseller is pretending to be something that they're are not! Are you trying to say no reseller should advertise at all? Or do they start by saying "im a reseller of..."?

Originally posted by Chicken


Joe, you interested in this hosting package? If not, then please do not post in your competitor's threads.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by Hostexp


:eek: :eek: :eek:


Y do you think Joe made that post? This is an advertising forum... he is not advertising and he is not interested in the post either... the only reason he said that was to dis my offer... hence the statement by Chicken.

My bad then. Somehow the posts made think that you were a reseller of communitech.
Anyhow, I don't usually post under this forum (since I already have a fine host with me) but I thought I'd post something under this thread.

Good luck, Magic and , of course, Chicken.

Originally posted by Magic
LOL... freaking out? no. If you visit my site, you will see that im not even a reseller for Communitech :). I was trying to do a favour for a friend... which didnt go very far because of the dog eat dog competition here.

What makes me upset is the fact the people critisize just to stop your customers, and for no real reason.

To Randy: In your terms... every reseller is pretending to be something that they're are not! Are you trying to say no reseller should advertise at all? Or do they start by saying "im a reseller of..."?

Originally posted by Magic
Allera, we have almost every software you could want installed on the server. Some software is not available to this account eg Miva shopping cart, Chilisoft ASP... to get these will need to upgrade to a better account.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the original offer not specify that the $23/mo account comes with Miva?

This thread sure has blown up. I want you to know that I'm not putting you down or insulting you in any direct or indirect way. I could care less if you resell. Everyone resells, even NOCs that don't own their own lines, and even then they resell other lines for redundancy. :) I genuinly want the facts to this account for personal reasons.

While I don't like this whole "hosts attacking hosts" mess, I don't think the forum should be locked. Many would-be customers do have questions and it benefits other would-be customers to see what other customers ask and what (and how) the host replies. If the forum was to be locked, customers could be less informed (yes, they could email the host with questions, but not everyone thinks of the same questions to ask). Instead, Chicken might just want to edit offending posts like he's done in the past (Chicken should get a paycheck for all this... :)).

This post was written to be as unoffensive as possible since I have no beef with anyone in this thread. :) Hope it works...

yeah it worked ;)

The account comes with Miva empressa (the server-side scripting language that nobody has ever heard of :P )... not Miva shopping cart.

Regards,
Magicz

Two guys approach a woman at a bar. In the spirit of competiton one says to the other in a discreet voice (but loud enough for others to hear)

"by the way Tom, have those genital warts cleared up yet?" :eek:


I was a reseller for 2 years prior to investing with others to get my (our) own server. I didn't advertise that I was sharing the server with another host. By asking that question you may take steam out of the sale process. That type of question may direct the conversation or thread in a direction that was not intended by the advertiser.

- btw all my current accounts are still on resold systems.

I agree with Allera. Personally, I don't see any need to disable the reply. I think the mods need only issue warnings / temp ban on those who post into the competitior's offer so that they look bad. Otherwise, while the questions are for clarification on the NOC and connection, I would think those are alright.

Magic, Can you reply to my posts above as to whether you are consuming the 200 Mbps you yourself?

Magic, Did you forget choon?

I also think that reply should not be disable in this forum. The request forum(if I remember correctly) is reply-disabled, and many times I have advice to the request(e.g. unrealistic request) I could not post. Most of the time I am just too lazy to PM them, and whatever I PM them other people can't see(and can't learn from it).

I think moderation should be used in place of reply-disable. However, to discourage such behavior, perhaps offender could be scold in a more frank way?

Peter

Well, note that eliminating discussion isn't exact the first thing anyone wants (sorta kills the whole point of a discussion forum, eh?), and that there are a few other things we usually try before that happens. Sorry I stepped on Magic's thread and brought any of this up, and we'll announce some changes in errrr.. I guess the lounge (not sure where else would be more appropriate, but if I can find a place...).

Originally posted by Magic
To Randy: In your terms... every reseller is pretending to be something that they're are not! Are you trying to say no reseller should advertise at all? Or do they start by saying "im a reseller of..."?

No I didn't say that at all (read it again). If you're a reseller, of course I don't expect you to come right out and advertise that. What I meant was don't lead us to believe you're this huge company with $30,000 servers. Why not just state what you can offer instead of making up all this technical bs.

Also, I don't know why you're so upset with Evan. Looks like he asked a perfectly valid question to me.

Originally posted by Magic
yes we are affiliated with Communitech... but we are undercutting their prices!

BTW Evan, do you make a habit of ruining other people's advertisements or is this your first time?

do you really think ANYONE signs up to a reseller in these forums? NO.

And thanks to Evan i just lost a sale that was just about to go through. BTW, y does being a reseller make me "look bad"? My customer support is much faster than Communitech could ever dream of

Chicken, yes i agree, anyone can ask if im a reseller, and i will answer truthfully... but when i know the ONLY reason they are asking is to put me down ie Evan... then it gets very annoying.

BTW, have you noticed that every good deal that is advertised is indirectly insulted by other hosting competitors? I think disabling replies would be a very good idea.

this was my first time.. (j/k)

Magic, explain to me how I ruined your advertising post? I believe you did that all by yourself by being rude and lashing out at me (a potential person to refer your company to others) for asking you if you are affiliated with another company. There shoudn't be a problem with me asking if you are somewhat related to other company.

Here is my point: If a person is on the communitech.net system and they are looking for a better host because of lack of good serbvice from Communitech, do you think if the person found an advertisement offering the EXACT same feautures as they are curently receiving and the company making the EXACT same states as Communitech, they should ask whether or not they are affilated with them??? it makes sense to me (however, I realize this is not my reason for asking but you should not be rude to someone because they wanted to know some more information on your connections, servers, etc.)

So please next time, refrain from using my name in your posts, if you have a problem with one of my posts, email me not lash out and be rude...

And what gave you the idea that I was only asking to "put you down" ?

Hurm... wat Randy said was quite reasonable to me, if u r a reseller, just state your plans and pricing instead of sounding like u own a huge company and invested 30k on each server... (Anyway the features sound like communitech's naturally people will wanna ask... and since they asked, its better to admit or stay quiet if you don't want to answer-IMO)

Also, CT customers may wan to look for a new host b'cos they dun like it there due to some reason (like me)... On another hand maybe some satisfied customers will wanna switch b'cos of the cheaper pricing while knowing u r wif CT. Basically I like CT, their CP is one of the best I'd seen but strict TOS...