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sid007 05-01-2004, 01:54 AM Ok. I read a LOT of threads / posts here on WHT [much more than I post]
I've noticed many threads being closed even though I don't see why.
B/F posting this one, I was reading this.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=266148&perpage=15&pagenumber=10
I was really interested to see the opinions of so many people and wanted to reply but I don't see why it was closed.
The only thing I see is that it grew big [10 pages] but what's wrong with that?
Hmm... when iNet closes threads they should include a reason after it.
PS: timechange.com you have posted so many articles that have closed this week. ... lol
Kerry Jones 05-01-2004, 01:57 AM Well they also like to make threads disppear much like this one will probably be another victim. I notice some threads get closed because massive flaming is going on in them or the thread goes off topic. However, I have had a few of my threads deleted before on the forums. I asked Anon-E-Mouse on IRC why they are deleted and her reply was "common sense". I still can't see what Common Sense and discussing about my friend being a pedophile has to do with it.
Gen-T 05-01-2004, 02:04 AM Originally posted by LessHost
What is the reasoning behind iNet closing threads?
There are plenty of good reasons of course, but I think the best is.... It's their forum.
Originally posted by Kerry Jones
I still can't see what Common Sense and discussing about my friend being a pedophile has to do with it.
LOL.... Hello?? :rolleyes:
sid007 05-01-2004, 02:11 AM Ok... about your friend being a phedophile (child pornographer [had to look that up on google http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=pedophile] ... if that's what it is) is gross.
I understand this is an open discussion board but WHT does need to control what goes on here.
That explains why they have closed other threads but some I don't see why.
Sasan 05-01-2004, 02:14 AM Originally posted by Gen-T
LOL.... Hello?? :rolleyes:
Exactly. I'm sorry but if you can't see the common sense in that, then....I don't know what to say :rolleyes:
sid007 05-01-2004, 02:18 AM Originally posted by Gen-T
It's their forum.
Yeah! It is their forum but it's still a community forum [I see why many WHT 'ers have gone elsewhere]
I understand they need to 'regulate' what goes on here.
Suggestion for iNet: Have moderator explain why thread was closed.
Gen-T 05-01-2004, 02:36 AM Originally posted by LessHost
Yeah! It is their forum but it's still a community forum
[I see why many WHT 'ers have gone elsewhere]
The second part of that comment was a low blow, not to mention completely untrue.
Honestly though, if you (or anybody else) feel that a thread being closed (a thread in the lounge where people are arguing) is reason to go somewhere else then perhaps you should, because that's just being silly. Give the staff some credit, and give the rest of us a break.
Originally posted by LessHost
Suggestion for iNet: Have moderator explain why thread was closed.
Not a bad idea, but also not necessary. Have some faith in the staff and give them the credit they deserve. They only close threads if they feel there is a good reason. They are not just out to spoil your posting fun. They don't owe us an explanation. They do what they feel is best for the forum, and that's all that matters.
nmluan 05-01-2004, 02:45 AM I believe that thread was closed because it has turned into a personal heated argument between timechange and Gen-T. I doubt it was close because of its original topic.
Gen-T 05-01-2004, 02:48 AM That's right, and you don't see me complaining to the staff about it, because I understand why they did it. Just like I understand why they close a lot of threads that wind up in arguments. For the good of the forum.
For the record, me and TimeChange spoke privately and don't hold a grudge. :)
Rockchild 05-01-2004, 04:28 AM Maybe it was deleted becorse of bad spelin butt I nevor had dat probem befor sense Im good at it sumtimes. So far my highes spelin score is D a week ego wich is way beter dan the Fs I mosely get.
Techark 05-01-2004, 05:04 AM Some threads turn pointless and just end up as a flame fest serving no real purpose that is why most threads like that get closed.
As far members going elsewhere, WHT has had nothing but explosive growth since iNet bought it.
Kimmikat 05-01-2004, 05:09 AM I'm waiting for a mod to hit the close thread option on this one! :D
anon-e-mouse 05-01-2004, 06:10 AM Originally posted by LessHost
Yeah! It is their forum but it's still a community forum [I see why many WHT 'ers have gone elsewhere]
And knowing some "elsewheres" very well, they would do exactly the same thing. ;)
Aussie Bob 05-01-2004, 06:14 AM Originally posted by LessHost
Yeah! It is their forum but it's still a community forum [I see why many WHT 'ers have gone elsewhere]
There's been no mass exodus, and many of us visit several hosting forums, so it's no big deal.
Suggestion for iNet: Have moderator explain why thread was closed.
They sometimes do, but the reasons are usually pretty self evident, as to why a thread is closed.
anon-e-mouse 05-01-2004, 06:30 AM Originally posted by LessHost
Suggestion for iNet: Have moderator explain why thread was closed.
iNet do not control how the forum is moderated. The thread may still be cleaned and reopened (and maybe a warning a two given), until then, relax :beer:
Aussie Bob 05-01-2004, 06:36 AM Originally posted by anon-e-mouse
. . . relax :beer:
Good advice for everyone. :cool:
Rockchild 05-01-2004, 06:38 AM I dont think the moderators need to explain anything to anybudy because its all in the Rules
iTec Hosts 05-01-2004, 06:43 AM Being a forum Moderator or an Administrator is a thankless job. Never do you see people saying thankyou to a moderator for doing their job. Instead we get the "why did you close my thread?" or "how come my posts are gone?" or "why am I banned?"
This is a VERY busy board which averages about 2500 posts per day. Some boards are lucky yo do that per year. Because of how busy this board is, the Administration team must be ever vigilant. they must read every post. Respond to every reported post. Make decisions they know will not be popular. Take abuse from members who don't like the fact that the board is moderated. I do not know how often I have read "what about freedom of speech?" on the boards I participate in.
I am either the Board Administrator or a Moderator on just over 20 different forums ranging in size from 20 members to over 4,000 members. Now I know the membership and post numbers do not compare to WHT, but I do understand what the Mods here have to go through.
On the forums I am part of, all the Moderators have to follow certain guidelines as to the editing, moving, closing and deleting of posts. I am positive that the same applies to WHT.
On one of my busier forums, I do require the Mods to state the reason for closing or editing a post. This is to keep the members informed why our staff did what they did. But. This is a forum of only 400 members. And with less than 7,000 posts it is much easier and less time consuming than it would be here.
The Moderators here do a VERY commendable job. I occasionally have reported a post and it was promptly dealt with. In some cases, the moderators chose to let the thread continue. It is always a judgement call by the Moderators as to when they must act.
I doubt that the Moderators have much time to truly enjoy WHT as we members are able to. For them it is a job. A job they do not get paid for. For they are all volunteers. (Or at least before iNet took over they were)
Instead of always questioning the staff here on why they do the things they do in execution of their duties, maybe we should do something I have not seen anyone do in the 16 months total I have been a member here.
Send some kind words their way. A Kudo or two for a job that although tough at times, they do well.
Step into their shoes for a day and you may see WHT a whole different way than you do now.
anon-e-mouse 05-01-2004, 07:09 AM Originally posted by iTec Hosts
Send some kind words their way. A Kudo or two for a job that although tough at times, they do well.
Some do that already and it more than makes up for all the mod bashing and "heated" emails we have had in the past (and will in the future) :)
Great post by the way :cool:
stripeyteapot 05-01-2004, 07:20 AM Originally posted by Rockchild
I dont think the moderators need to explain anything to anybudy because its all in the Rules
:topic: But, :o an almost perfect sentence
SoftWareRevue 05-01-2004, 07:49 AM We adopted the practice of not always stating why threads are closed nearly a year ago.
It seems that, no matter the reasoning, there are going to be those that disagree.
This results in threads discussing the reasoning in the closing of specific threads. And admonishing the moderator that dare closed it.
We'd rather you commented on moderators as a whole, than to take digs at one specific moderator for doing what they felt best for the Community.
Not explaining why threads are closed, has really cut down on these types of threads.
I would like to address the thread title.
iNET doesn't close threads. Moderators close threads.
iNET owns the forum. Moderators guide the Community.
If, after thoroughly reading and understanding Forum Guidelines (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules), you can't understand why a thread was closed and really feel compelled to know, please contact us (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/helpdesk/).
Gabriel Murphy 05-01-2004, 10:26 AM Though we are accused of closing all sorts of threads by a select few members.... truth be told, as SWR and anon-e-mouse has pointed out, iNET doesn't close threads. Matter of fact, I know we have never closed any threads on WHT.
Aussie Bob 05-01-2004, 11:04 AM On the topic of moderators :) do any of the moderators (Community Leaders, Liaisons) receive any type of monetary renumeration from INET, or is it still volunteer based for all mods?
Gabriel Murphy 05-01-2004, 11:05 AM That is a good question for SWR :)
Aussie Bob 05-01-2004, 11:14 AM Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
That is a good question for SWR :)
Ummmm, are you implying that SoftWareRevue is paid by INET for moderation services supplied?
You ought to know. :)
Gabriel Murphy 05-01-2004, 11:16 AM Yes, something has been done in this department, and details will be coming in the WHT- State of the Union post coming this week. However, I do not want to mis-explain the program, so I will deferr to SWR to explain it, if he wishes to do so :)
Thanks AssueBob. You are one of my favorite members :) Other than anon-e-mouse, of course! ;)
Aussie Bob 05-01-2004, 11:20 AM Wow, I never thought it could be, but glad it is, and SWR deserves it. Look forward to your WHT State of the Union address. :)
Gabriel Murphy 05-01-2004, 11:21 AM Well, it is not just SWR.... That is why I do not want to lead you or mislead you to believe anything at this point. SWR- help me! :)
Aussie Bob 05-01-2004, 11:22 AM Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
Well, it is not just SWR.... That is why I do not want to lead you or mislead you to believe anything at this point. SWR- help me! :)
No worries. Your secret is safe with me. I won't tell anyone. ;)
Gen-T 05-01-2004, 01:58 PM Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
as SWR
Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
question for SWR
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
and SWR
That's it..... from now on I want to be called GT. :)
Informity 05-01-2004, 04:11 PM One of my posts just got deleted. No explanation, now most of the posts in the thread make no sense, as they were referring to mine.
Bloody stupid.
Kerry Jones 05-02-2004, 02:23 AM Originally posted by LessHost
Ok... about your friend being a phedophile (child pornographer [had to look that up on google http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=pedophile] ... if that's what it is) is gross.
I understand this is an open discussion board but WHT does need to control what goes on here.
That explains why they have closed other threads but some I don't see why.
What I mean by pedophile is he pretends to be a girl online even though he is a guy and wouldn't do some things most of us would not agree upon. I won't go into details because this thread will end up getting locked. I think it would be a good idea for an explaination on why the thread should be locked as it would stop more threads being open because of it.
Steve Saw 05-02-2004, 10:24 AM Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
It seems that, no matter the reasoning, there are going to be those that disagree.
This results in threads discussing the reasoning in the closing of specific threads. And admonishing the moderator that dare closed it.
Originally posted by Kerry Jones
I think it would be a good idea for an explaination on why the thread should be locked as it would stop more threads being open because of it.
Either way, there are going to be threads. And the one I'm responding to now at least hasn't taken stabs at particular mods.
susannad 05-02-2004, 11:54 AM Originally posted by phision.com
One of my posts just got deleted. No explanation, now most of the posts in the thread make no sense, as they were referring to mine.
Bloody stupid. Have you read any of the posts in this thread ?
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