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Freedom
11-18-2001, 10:39 PM
Beware of Tuvok


My story is a upsetting one.. so beware. :)

It all started when I read a post at WebHostingTalk by:
Tuvok (Brian Shawa)
Marketing Manager for http://www.one2host.com

This guy has the gull to call himself professional!

Well I ICQ him about this post.. Here is how it starts:

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ICQ History Log For:
54042640 Tuvok
Started on Sun Nov 18 09:14:39 2001
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YourHostSu 11/17/20 9:33 AM Hello, I am writing in responce to your post
at WHT (
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s
&threadid=26326 )


Tuvok 11/17/20 9:34 AM hi

YourHostSu 11/17/20 9:35 AM What exactly do you need done.... and are
there still openings?

Tuvok 11/17/20 9:37 AM yes there are, the work is quite a lot so i
have split it into portions, basically the
work pays $100 for about 600 names give or
take a few and depending on your speed it
should take just about 30sec to do each name
or less


Ok so there are still openings and well lets get down to business...


Tuvok 11/17/20 9:50 AM ok please download the client ou will need and
install it
ftp://ftp.menandmice.com/pub/quickdns/WinManag
r.exe


YourHostSu 11/17/20 9:51 AM ok


Ok.. so I download this program, and I am ready to get to work.


Tuvok 11/17/20 10:04 AM i am just rebooting back soon

YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:05 AM ok

YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:25 AM Ok I have QuickDNS Manager Installed and up..

Tuvok 11/17/20 10:26 AM ok, i am sending you two files

YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:26 AM ok


So far so good...


YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:31 AM I recieved one file.

Tuvok 11/17/20 10:31 AM whats the name of the file i just sent please?

YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:31 AM ip20.com.txt


YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:33 AM Ok I have both files.

Tuvok 11/17/20 10:35 AM ok, give me 1min

YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:35 AM Ok

Tuvok 11/17/20 10:42 AM back in 2mins

YourHostSu 11/17/20 10:42 AM ok

YourHostSu 11/17/20 11:06 AM I am not sure if it matters, but that list you
sent me only had 256 domains on it.

Tuvok 11/17/20 11:07 AM thats ok, the other one may have a bit more
when i send it, can you start in about 3hrs
because right now someone else is working on
another list, i wasnow aware they had started,
they had said they were stepping out, so can i
let you know when you can start on you ok

YourHostSu 11/17/20 11:08 AM Ok, So you will contact me when the job is
ready to go? (about 3 hrs)

Tuvok 11/17/20 11:09 AM yes i will

YourHostSu 11/17/20 11:09 AM No Problem, I will be on. :)

Tuvok 11/17/20 11:09 AM great thanx speak to you later


Ok well a little stump, need to wait 3 hrs for the other guy to finish...
--
Well after about 3 and 1/2 hours I ICQ him again to see what the status on the
other persons job is...


YourHostSu 11/17/20 2:44 PM Hey Brian,
I do not mean to pester you..
Just had a question anent this job, If you
know about how much longer before you will
need me to start. :)

Tuvok 11/17/20 2:45 PM the other gys are still at it, but i have
reserved 600 for you

YourHostSu 11/17/20 2:46 PM Ok, Thanks


Well ok that did not answer my question, but he did confirm he had 600 set aside for me to do....

So after about 5 1/2 hours of waiting I am forced to ICQ him once again....


YourHostSu 11/17/20 8:19 PM Hello, I really do not like to pester...
But I am sure you understand why I do.. :)
So I am just wondering what the status on the
prior job is?
(If this is going to happen today, or If I
should expect to wait until tomorrow)
I am not sure what time zone you are in, but
it is 8pm here (EST)

Thanks,


Well he never replied to me at all after this.....
So finally at around 10:30 PM I sent him a PM at WebHostingTalk on this subject..
He never replied to this PM...
Finally the next day I ICQ him again just to ask him to go read him PM at WebHostingTalk..


YourHostSu 11/18/20 8:26 AM I take it you do not have email sent to you
when you receive a PM at WebHostingTalk?
Well I would appreciate it if you would go
there and read the PM I sent very late last
night.
Thanks,


So.... he never replied to this message either...

--
Well I woke up that day.. planning for it to be a good one....
But O NO... It was a very bad one..

I find Tuvok's actions were not very nice at all, let alone VERY unprofessional.

I went to WebHostingTalk and read Tuvok's post
(saying to myself, man these guys need some help ASAP).
So I contact them via ICQ.. They have me download a program..
Then tell me at about 11:00am EST that someone else has started theirs and they will need me in 3 hours.
Well around 2:30pm EST I contacted them again to check on the status of the situation.
Their reply was "I have set aside 600 for you, they are not done yet)..
(*I Think* not really the answer I need, but ok.. I will wait some more..)..
Finally at about 8:00pm EST.. I try to contact them again.. and get no response..
(never got a reply from them again) .. They just signed off ICQ.

Hummm...

Well Now this leads me to believe that I just wasted a day of my life for nothing but to get scammed
(what would you think?)...
I personally had plans for that day, yet I cancelled them because Tuvok made it sound as if they
really needed help (ASAP).. So in a effort to help Tuvok out.. I stay at home and cancel all of
my plans for the day.
I am not very happy at all about this.. as I was home all day for nothing..
I wanted to take my kid out and visit family.. but no.. I stay home to help Tuvok out.

I wasted a day of my life to help Tuvok.. and for what.. *nothing*

I warn you... Beware of Tuvok, I do not get how they can call themselves "Professional"...

YourHostSucks.com

comphost
11-18-2001, 11:56 PM
I contacted them and once i knew it required installing a client on your computer i got very wary..... I would check your system for backdoors now galore :)

Any real company or whatnot could have the task done with a script in 10 minutes.

Regardlesss, It was a lame job, I am sorry you have to go
to lengths for extra money... Good Luck in your future endeavors

Freedom
11-19-2001, 12:13 AM
Hummm... I am sure it was virus free.. as I have a couple virus scanners..

But I did start getting a weird attack after I installed this program.
(I am sure its just some weird coincidence)
But what is this "Rule "Default Block TransScout"

TransScout?

as for

I am sorry you have to go
to lengths for extra money


Hurm.. everyone needs to work... and I was just trying to help them as they said "ASAP".. and I got bent over and the big shaft up the exit only...:angry:

MarcD
11-20-2001, 01:24 AM
glad he never emailed me back

The 1st question i would have asked is how are you going to pay me.

and i need half before i start and half when imdone

or i would abeen outa there after about 6 sentences.

Freedom
11-23-2001, 12:07 AM
Yea,
The first thing we talked about was the job..
Then it was established I was needed for it..
Then we talked about how I was to get paid..
Then onto downloading the program, and setting up a time for the job to be done....


But this just goes to show there are scum people out there..
So Beware.....

NyteOwl
11-24-2001, 01:00 AM
Name: TransScout
Aliases: Transmission Scout,
Ports: 1999, 2000-2005, 9878 (ports can not be changed)
Files: Ts11.zip - 700,015 bytes Ts12.zip - 700,510 bytes Server.exe - 660,992 bytes Server.exe - 663,040 bytes Transscout.exe - Chat.exe - 791,040 bytes Chat.exe - 788,992 bytes Kernel16.exe - folder RBO
Created: 1999
Requires: N/A
Actions: Remote Access / Steals passwords / Keylogger
Versions: 0.85, 0.95, 0.97, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2,
Registers: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\
Notes: Works on Windows 95 and 98. Possibly also on NT.
Country: written in Germany
Program: N/A

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TransScout is a trojan but it if your firewall logs show a Rule Default BLock then it was probably stopped.

Nevertheless I'de check for the listed files and registry entries.

Good Luck!

jimb
11-24-2001, 01:38 AM
the guy had you download a trojan, under his company name? What a moron.....loser, I hope his company fails and he is left out on the street for a stupid thing like that.

Jim

Freedom
11-24-2001, 02:16 AM
NyteOwl,

Thanks someone finally told me what it was :)...
I had uninstalled the program he had me download.. and it has not happen again.
I am not saying what he sent was a virus at all.. :), It was just
very weird that I have never gotten that attack before.. until after I installed what he
sent.... *shrug*
I am sure it was just one of those things...


Ooo Mr. jimb,

The unlimband guy.. pssssst* they offer "Unlimited bandwidth"
;), If I would have visited their site and saw that prior to accepting the job from him...
I would have never even tried to help a host that offers "Unlimited"... :mad:

tuvok
11-24-2001, 08:43 AM
Dont you guys have better things to do than to sit around and post unfounded messages, this is rediculous, the work got done and the person got paid otherwise they woud be the ones posting bad messages and not you.......

Viruses...Ha!! the software to be downloaded was a commercial software, so how could i have put virus in it when you had to download it from the companies site????

so instead of wasting your time and mine by posting such silly posts....just get over it ok........


its just plain silly....... if this is how you react when you cant get work then i feel sorry for you

brian

One2host.com16

Freedom
11-24-2001, 09:28 AM
Dont you guys have better things to do than to sit around and post unfounded messages, this is rediculous, the work got done and the person got paid otherwise they woud be the ones posting bad messages and not you.......


Unfounded?

FACTS..
Fact 1) You offered a job
Fact 2) I was hired
Fact 3) I got screwed by you

All facts...........

As for the virus thing.. I said many times ( I am sure it is just a freak thing.. that I got that after I installed the application)
So you are the one posting wrong.... I never said you guys gave me a virus..
Just the fact you screwed me and it cost me a day of my life with my family for nothing.....


its just plain silly....... if this is how you react when you cant get work then i feel sorry for you


I suggest you stop posting as you only make yourself look more and more unprofessional with every post....

1)I have a good job.... (work)
2)I was hired for this job, and got screwed.... so how can you say when I can not get work?
You gave me the job
You screwed me...
You know it...
Everyone knows it...
(Something I was going to do in my free time to HELP you....)
My Major mistake of the year....

edude
11-24-2001, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by tuvok
Dont you guys have better things to do than to sit around and post unfounded messages, this is rediculous, the work got done and the person got paid otherwise they woud be the ones posting bad messages and not you.......

Viruses...Ha!! the software to be downloaded was a commercial software, so how could i have put virus in it when you had to download it from the companies site????

so instead of wasting your time and mine by posting such silly posts....just get over it ok........


its just plain silly....... if this is how you react when you cant get work then i feel sorry for you

brian

One2host.com16 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

CyrixWeb.net
11-25-2001, 05:01 AM
Tuvok you did in fact screw YourHostSuck!

Coming EVEN from my point of you...

You did hire YourHostSuck for a job he was supposed to do. He was sitting there all day waiting for you to contact him and you never did. When you did, you lied to him by telling him that you "reserved" 600 domains for him to process.

So basically whether or not he did do any work for you, you screwed him. He was supposed to do a job to help you out and instead of actually giving him the work, you made him waste his entire day for nothing.

Now to you that may not seem like a big deal (especially if you have no life). But some people have lives and responsibilities to maintain. The least you could have done (and I do mean the least) was to tell YourHostSuck that you truly didn't have the domain names for him anymore and that the job was taken by someone else. And that would have been it! He would have just moved on and had the rest of his day to do more important things than to just wait for a job that never came.

I also had a rep from my company contact you regarding the job you posted. He never did receive a reply from you but that's another story.

BOTTOM LINE: Bite your lip and focus more on treating people with respect rather than trying to get the last word. Cause as far as I'm concerned, your the one being silly about this.

Chicken
11-25-2001, 09:35 AM
I've made a small change to this thread, shifting the warning more to the person (Tuvok) than the company. I'm not entirely convinced the entire company is to blame and deserves the warning, though if I get other info to the contrary, I'll update once again.

Tuvok, a professionally sounding apology may have been more appropriate.

Magic
11-25-2001, 12:41 PM
One2host.com made a contract and then broke it. BIG DEAL. The sky is still not falling. The world still has not ended. I think this has been blown waaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

Ok so he broke a contract and didnt follow it up professionally. YourHostSuck... are you really that desparate for $100? Or is it that you dont have a life that you need to make such a huge deal about nothing? I also dont see how a job has anything to do with the hosting services One2Host.com offers.

Freedom
11-25-2001, 02:34 PM
It makes me sick when people try to defend one2host's actions...
If my host acted like this I would leave in a heartbeat... shows a
total lack of morals and is just childish way of conducting business.

So I will not speculate your age, just say grow up and think of it on a professional level.. their actions were beyond childish, and nothing I look for when I look for someone to trust with running my site. Their actions with this.. make you fear what their support must be like.


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Your pathetic childish attempts to belittle me (saying I am desperate for $100) shows your childish side.
I have never said one word about not getting paid or about the money.. so grow up...
I have however said.. I sat around all day waiting to help this company, giving up taking my daughter to her grandpa's or doing anything that day (this is what I am upset about)...

Freedom
11-25-2001, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Magic
One2host.com made a contract and then broke it. BIG DEAL. The sky is still not falling. The world still has not ended. I think this has been blown waaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

Ok so he broke a contract and didnt follow it up professionally. YourHostSuck... are you really that desparate for $100? Or is it that you dont have a life that you need to make such a huge deal about nothing? I also dont see how a job has anything to do with the hosting services One2Host.com offers.

Well after my prior post I clicked your www button, and I am amazed you are a host... and think it is fine for people to do what one2host did.

Saying host can make contracts and break them at will,
Attacking me with pathetic childish belittling comments,
Welcome to the blacklist...

Magic
11-25-2001, 03:28 PM
ROFLMAO...ooooooooo you scare me so much. Im shaking with fear. Im on the blacklist... what am going to do? I might as well fall dead.

Does anyone actually come to your website? I doubt it.

I never said breaking contracts was acceptable... i just think you made too much of a big deal about it; and i really couldnt care less if im on your black list.... your site is not important enough for me to care... and if you add my business to your blacklist simply because you dont like ME, then your site will never be worth anything... since you are just putting your opinion on it!

Freedom
11-25-2001, 03:45 PM
I will not argue with you over nothing, and are you even on yourhostsucks.com? (no)
So you are just full of lies, and acting VERY childish...

I would never go with a host named magicz* anyway, so I would have never fell victim to you.
But you have clearly shown people how you act here.. and that does hurt whether you think people come here or not...


I will not play games with you and do some childish my balls are bigger than yours (or what ever you *think* you are trying to prove here)

My last post to you, I have better things to do.

I quote you:
"I never said breaking contracts was acceptable"

I quote you in your prior post:
"One2host.com made a contract and then broke it. BIG DEAL."

Hurm sounds like you say its a-ok with you if host do.....

SoftWareRevue
11-25-2001, 05:25 PM
I would say something, except someone may think I am partial to one side or the other :rolleyes:

Let me just say . . . .

*Breathe*

*Think*

*Then post*

Pilgrim
11-25-2001, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Magic
One2host.com made a contract and then broke it. BIG DEAL. The sky is still not falling. The world still has not ended. I think this has been blown waaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

Ok so he broke a contract and didnt follow it up professionally. YourHostSuck... are you really that desparate for $100? Or is it that you dont have a life that you need to make such a huge deal about nothing? I also dont see how a job has anything to do with the hosting services One2Host.com offers.

ROFLMAO...ooooooooo you scare me so much. Im shaking with fear. Im on the blacklist... what am going to do? I might as well fall dead.

your site is not important enough for me to care... and if you add my business to your blacklist simply because you dont like ME, then your site will never be worth anything... since you are just putting your opinion on it!



:eek: :eek: :eek:
And you have a webhosting company ??? ANY kind of company???

After reading your posts I strongly felt the urge to cancel my account with you. Thank god I don't have an account with you, but the feeling that I really REALLY wanted to cancel a account with you, ANY account with you almost made me sign up for hosting with you so I had something to cancel and make me feel better.

Unfortunatly I couldn't do that since you ask for a one year payment in advance. Kinda harsh, seeing how you only registered your domainname in august.

Magic
11-25-2001, 09:35 PM
YourHostSuck... i said it wasnt a "BIG DEAL" as in... you didnt have to start an entire new thread just to put his company down. But then again with the sort of site you have made... you really dont have anything better to do... do u?

Pilgrim, you cant judge my services since you havnt used them ;) I have been in the hosting business for 4 years... however i started out in a partnership company (which i am still in)... but decided to start my own company as well since i want more than just a small share of the profit.
I do not ask for one year in advance. i really dont know where you came up with that :???:
I operate with all my customers on a personal level. I dont relly on WHT to provide me with customers. I have customers in many countries all of which are very satisfied :) weather you think my services are good or not simply by reading one thread really doesnt concern me.

Freedom
11-30-2001, 10:19 AM
Its your story....:rolleyes:

cabalstudios
11-30-2001, 01:40 PM
one word only: lame

seattlite
12-02-2001, 02:50 AM
Im not going to really comment on Tuvok... but I think anyone who has come across this thread might not be too impressed with what you did.

And Magic im not sure what your deal is but Tuvok obviously was "rude" at the least, and this is a valid complaint.

Whether it was $10, $100, or a $1000 yourhostsuck got the short end of the stick.

LiveTronix
12-02-2001, 02:53 AM
This whole thread has gone to far.

Thats my two cents and if you add me to big bad black list Oh, No.

Freedom
12-02-2001, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by LiveTronix
This whole thread has gone to far.

Thats my two cents and if you add me to big bad black list Oh, No.

Humm gone to far?
It is to warn people of this company (mainly Brian)
It is to protect others from him... are we supposed to sit back and say nothing, letting people screw people over and over?

As for the blacklist, I will add you with joy.
It is funny how "Un Helpful"(is that a word? lol) your reply is, holding no meaning at all.

Just for clarification... my Black List is a personal one
(not seen by anyone but me, just a personal thing so I remember
people/companies/etc that suck)
So there is no public glory in being on it... but hey I have no problem adding those that need to be on it.....
I usually do not add by request, but in this case I will make a exception.. :D

Chicken
12-03-2001, 03:48 AM
Anywhoooo, i think the problem is as solved as it is going to be and with that...