How much does it cost to have a T3 installed? How much would the lease be?

Thanks!

- Brandon
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10k+

A place I used to work was in the process of having a DS-3 installed, and it wasn't quite that much. Maybe 3k.

Off the top of my head, I don't know the difference, but I do remember it being capable of pulling off a lot T1's (voice and data).

edit: Of course, we had a negotiated deal where we paid "nothing" but usage on our voice T1s(big inbound call center, 9 voice t1s).

Approx $15,000.00 from a decent provider, including loop.
You may get it a little cheaper from backbones like Qwest, but you get what you pay for...
Also, if you use a Tier 2 provider, it will be 20%-30% cheaper probably.

Sean R.
BurstNET

$15,000/mo.?

- Brandon
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Hmmm..$15.000.

That's around $333 per Mbps.

yes, $15,000 per month.
...and that is after alot of negotiating...

If your facility is far away from the POP of the bakbone you are getting the line from, you are looking at a higher local loop as well.
$15,000/month including loop refers to a "zero mile" loop. If you buy a DS3 in a carrier hotel, and avoid paying the loop, you may get it cheaper...but end up having to pay for rackspace, etc...so it comes out the same.
I know Verizon's loops in NE PA here run around $3500/month for a DS3 loop.

Your cost per MB goes WAAAAAY up also, if you do not order a full 45MBPS DS3...
You may be looking at $600+/MBPS for a fractional DS3. Sprint & AT&T are more reasonable on fractional lines from what we have seen on their quotes. MCI/Worldcom just quoted us $640/MBPS on a Fractional 22MB DS3....ridiculous...but their full DS3 price came out to only $335...more reasonable...


Sean R.
BurstNET

So, you could almost say that what line you want installed isn't relevant. It's how much you want to pay per mbps?

- Brandon

yes, $15,000 per month. ...and that is after alot of negotiating... Well, it really all depends on where in the county you are looking. Prices are very different form city to city. On a small commitment, it varies from $200-$900.00 / Mbps. In Saint Louis, MO we can get Tier 1 bandwidth with a 5 Mbps commitment on a DS3 for $450.00/Mbps/Mo.

I work for a provider and we are selling them for $11500 plus loop. If you are paying $15000 you are over paying.

What company.

Well sampson88, I do think the complete newbie title fits you well today :).

If you work for a provider thats selling a T3 that cheap thats fine, but if you note were talking prices including the local loop, and I'm fairly certain the place you work for is not one of the major backbones, thus anyone purchasing throu you is simpally going throu a middle man. Most larger companies who want direct connections don't want to goto someone where "we'll you'll go throu any one of these 5 providers" , most people intrested in that type of bandwidth need more control over that routing wise, thus they go direct with sprint, qwest, mci, level3, and the other larger ones..

A local loop its-self depending on milage can run from 2,000 to 4,000+ a month. So please don't come make remarks like that without thinking.

Actually, Daniel, I am not a newbie to this industry and understand fully that a DS-3 loop can cost in upwards of $4k per month, so do not insult me. I also understand how my pricing and my company. I do things to benefit the customer, as it relates to pricing, because my company has a tremendous amount of bandwidth to offer. As for working for one of the major backbone providers, I am with a Tier 1 ISP that is ranked highly among the telco providers.

Then just tell us who.........

I am waiting as well :)

He told me via pm who he works for, but I'll let him reveal that here if he chooses to. He works for a rather large Tier 1 backbone..

... so who's the provider?

yeah, I woudl liek to know as well, that's a great price :)

XO for aprox 5K plus loop

why not colo somewhere that can provide you with 300 per Meg?

XO for aprox 5K plus loop$5,000.00 for a T3?

Originally posted by RackMy.com
$5,000.00 for a T3?


Wow!

That's $111/Mbps plus loop. :cool:

I stand corrected the ____ at xo firs told me 5K now they uped it to 10K+ loops. The old bait and switch. Figures. I do know a host to co-lo with at $225 per Mb with 10 Mb commit. No loops that way.

If you colo and use a 10 meg connection, I feel it is less costly than trying to get a connection with loop into your office. It is a low cost method comparable to housing the equipment yourself.

sampson88, do you just sell fibers or do you also do colo?

cheers,
:beer:

An XO rep told me $200 per Mbps... or $9000 for a DS3, plus loop of course. They're hurting for the business, so they're selling at or below cost to try and push up revenues.

I went up against Level 3 on a deal and they were selling it for $122/meg plus loop. But if you want to go with a company that is hurting just because they are offering a low price, won't that eventually catch up to you in the end? Having to change providers all the time.

Must be Verio :)

Why would you guess Verio? They are shutting down data centers left and right, and hurting for business just like Level 3.

Well depending on how big of a port you want (9Mb-45Mb) and the loop, be expecting to pay anywhere around $5500-$16000. A lot of companies are starting to whore out these lines, but you really get what you pay for. It is just like a cheap T1 from a small tier 2 or 3 provider vs. a T1 from a big player like Sprint, AT&T, etc. Why do you need a pipe this big? Just wondering.

Commit to 10 meg and you can co-lo with no loop for $200 Mb or less pending on what you commit to.

He works for UUnet ;)

I know after all these reply's that my opinion might not count much but I think for a good quality T3 you are looking at about $19,000 a month

I work for a Tier 1 backbone provider. If you go with a DS-3 for $19k, then I would love to be the one that sells it to you. Then I would make a lot more money off it. But I have already said we offer ours for $11500 plus loop. That is a great deal.

Originally posted by sampson88
I work for a Tier 1 backbone provider. If you go with a DS-3 for $19k, then I would love to be the one that sells it to you. Then I would make a lot more money off it. But I have already said we offer ours for $11500 plus loop. That is a great deal.

So all sales reps for Tier 1 providres make commission? I tryed to get 1/2 a rack for 500/month from a company at colo.com and he won't give me the space unless I buy bandwidth from him.

The reason why Colo.com won't do it is because they are in financial trouble and have already sold a number of their facilities. The reason they will only sell full racks for a $1000 is because they don't have any other choice.

The reason why Colo.com won't do it is because they are in financial trouble You work for a Tier 1 bandwidth provider and don't know that Colo.com is NOT in financial touble? Colo.com is actually doing just fine since they were bought out of bankruptcy.

Yeah, I think they were bought by BK Investments. I was wondering if you guys know anyone selling only rackspace out of Colo.com by the 1U. I don't need bandwidth. Just a place for my equipment and maybe some admin work once in a while.

Originally posted by Hostexp
He works for UUnet ;)

Wrong!!!

He works for UUnet Who cares? :)

Originally posted by RackMy.com
Who cares? :)

A fine example of the typicle salesman.

A fine example of the typicle salesman.?

Originally posted by ClusterMania
Yeah, I think they were bought by BK Investments. I was wondering if you guys know anyone selling only rackspace out of Colo.com by the 1U. I don't need bandwidth. Just a place for my equipment and maybe some admin work once in a while.

Cluster,

Most datacenters do not just provide cabinate or rack space and not provide bandwith. It does not make for a profitable environment if they do.

Yes I work for a Tier 1 provider that sells its own hosting space. So the plight of a company like Colo.com, is not something I am concerned with, considering they don't take business away from me, as I am not concerned with a company like yours taking business from me. I am concerned by a company like Exodus, who is in serious financial trouble. They are the ones that I am going after, not the Colo.com's of the world.

Is your only reason to being on here to bash others? You think more than you really know. Stay in Missouri!

That last thread was for Mike, that wonderful sales man from Rackmy.com.

Yes I work for a Tier 1 provider that sells its own hosting space. So the plight of a company like Colo.com, is not something I am concerned with, considering they don't take business away from me, as I am not concerned with a company like yours taking business from me. I am concerned by a company like Exodus, who is in serious financial trouble. They are the ones that I am going after, not the Colo.com's of the world. LOL, Whatever :)