Pegasus is thinking of offering colo/ded with cogent bw what do you think?

I think its a wonderful idea jay

Be sure to test it and be aware of the service levels. Hopefully, cogent will start become better, but from what Ive heard, they arent doing too well....

Jim

Great Idea Jay

Continue your Excellence!!!!
:sickface:

Joe

It would be nice for cheap bandwidth :)

I don't quite get it ... some of you who reply here seem to be so negative about cogent on many posts, but then the same people seem to be so supportive here? :confused:

Jay, I am not sure if pure cogent is good ... but can you do something such that cogent is not the only line? It can be the main line all right, but is it going to be the only line? Anyway, where will you offer this, NJ or Dallas data center?

cheers,
:beer:

I haven't decided yet. But it will NOT be another equinix.

I don't quite get it ... some of you who reply here seem to be so negative about cogent on many posts, but then the same people seem to be so supportive here?

Sarcasm maybe??

If you want to run some tests, you can use the traceroute we set up here:

http://www.serverhost.com/cgi-bin/traceroute.cgi

That's from Cogent in Atlanta. Notice that they're now utilizing Netrail's peering arrangements on outgoing transit.

For instance, using affordablecolo.com, it picks up Qwest:

traceroute to affordablecolo.com (216.117.25.196), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 209.51.134.190 (209.51.134.190) 0.495 ms 0.436 ms 0.406 ms
2 209.51.137.249 (209.51.137.249) 0.611 ms 0.529 ms 1.064 ms
3 f1.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.20.129) 0.987 ms 1.352 ms 0.905 ms
4 g0-2.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.241) 1.631 ms 0.953 ms 0.948 ms
5 atl.netrail.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.28.202) 1.112 ms 0.813 ms 2.087 ms
6 205.215.60.199 (205.215.60.199) 1.610 ms 0.885 ms 1.429 ms
7 qwest-atl1.pr1.Atlanta1.us.netrail.net (205.215.1.210) 15.032 ms 14.707 ms 14.523 ms
8 atl-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.105) 15.458 ms 15.372 ms 15.390 ms
9 kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.153) 49.378 ms 50.065 ms 49.258 ms
10 kcm-edge-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.38) 49.923 ms 49.808 ms 48.879 ms
11 63.150.224.46 (63.150.224.46) 51.059 ms 49.925 ms 50.409 ms
12 MandS-StJoe-serial0-kc.idir.net (209.172.198.38) 89.735 ms 90.143 ms 88.580 ms
13 216.117.25.196 (216.117.25.196) 91.032 ms 88.594 ms 88.900 ms

Regards,

from all I've read on Cogent here, wouldn't that be lowering your quality of service to offer cheap options?

Greg Moore

Cogent is getting better, perhaps jayglate is wanting to offer them when they get netrail fully integrated, which hopefully will be in the near future.

It will most likely be a subdivion of pegasus not under the pegasus brand.

Originally posted by jayglate
Pegasus is thinking of offering colo/ded with cogent bw what do you think?

Go for it Jay.


;)

I don't see why a lot of you have had problems with Cogent BW before. My server bursts upto 2.47mb/s - which is pretty damn fine - no network downtime either.

I think it would be a good idea - the BW is cheap too.

I have people hitting some sites on my server from France, Spain, Japan - all of which said the Cogent pipe was a lot faster than the old Verio server I was on.

--James

Any idea what would the price range be ?

Any possibility of offering Cogent as primary with NAC as backup B/W mostly for hard failures? That would be a nice situation even if there was a slight premium.

Originally posted by Curt
Any possibility of offering Cogent as primary with NAC as backup B/W mostly for hard failures? That would be a nice situation even if there was a slight premium.

Most likely not.

go for it ^_^ some cheap bw would be nice even if it is cogent...

We have looked into Cogent as well...and they are actually not that bad (their 1st level sales/support sucks though)...BUT..I would not run our entire network on Cogent. As long as you have other major providers, having Cogent as a 3rd or 4th provider to keep costs down would be reasonable. However, to run a facility solely based on Cogent I think is irresponsible and taking a huge risk on a unproven backbone provider, (a non-profitable one to date at that).
Just my 2 cents...

Sean R.
BurstNET

Cogent will NOT be used for our standard ded and colo clients. It will never be our primary transit provider. But some client want just cogent BW to keep there costs down which is fine, and that is who we are looking for.

Cogent could be great for adult hosting :D