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View Full Version : Do you realy get visitors from Endless Visitors?
HakonHoy 04-14-2004, 07:49 PM Hi,
I'm unsure if this is the right forum to post this in, but I request information, so its probably ok to post it in this forum.
I wonder. Have anyone tried Endless Visitors.com ?
http://www.endlessvisitors.com/
Does it realy work? Do you get what you pay for? I hope someone can help me and tell their experience etc. from using Endless Visitors.com
Acroplex 04-14-2004, 08:07 PM Looks like some scam made in one's bedroom.
HakonHoy 04-14-2004, 08:18 PM I think the owner of Endless is registered on WebHostingTalk. He will probably say its great. But I wonder if anyone have actually tried it?
I asked Endless for a test 1000 visitors or something like that, to just test if I actually get the visitors. But it was impossible, they said.
So, anyone with information about this company. Please speak out ;)
Vortex-Steve 04-14-2004, 08:19 PM There's tons of this type of site sprung up recently. All with the same offer but with prices a few cents different. I have tried a few of them and while I have received the visitors paid for I was not impressed with the results in terms of sales. If you want to try it then $1.75 is not a lot to risk, but don't expect any good return on that.
HakonHoy 04-14-2004, 08:22 PM Ok. But for driving traffic to a web site such as Balando.com, it would probably work good or? As I'm not selling anything on that web site, just offer people the chance to play different games.
Would you use that as a marketing way, if you would market a web site like Balando.com ?
stripeyteapot 04-14-2004, 08:25 PM There has been rumours, and a few "unhappy people" claiming they're just bots that visit your site. Personally I think the return on things like this are low, targetted marketing is a better option, rather than 10,000 bots / people closing a browser.
Philipf 04-14-2004, 08:26 PM I've just paid for the targeted one, I'll let you know how it goes...
Its only $3.50 :p
HakonHoy 04-14-2004, 08:35 PM ahhh. ok. Thanks Philipf. Keep me informed :) Even if its only 3.50, its not worth it, if you don't get anything back. But I hope you will. As it would be cheap marketing if it works.
Philipf 04-14-2004, 08:42 PM With the poor US dollar, its costing me less than a starbucks coffee :)
HakonHoy 04-14-2004, 08:43 PM hehe :P lets hope the US dollar, stays that way ;) I'm from Norway, so I also like that a lot.
vibesolutions 04-14-2004, 10:47 PM how did the visitors turn out
geesh.net 04-15-2004, 05:53 AM You can start a campaign for untargeted visitors for as low as $1.75/1000 visitors.
It costs me money to start your campaign, that's why I can't give away free test campaigns.
Bots aren't used either, your site would be viewed in a full-screen pop-under window, by actual users.
HakonHoy 04-15-2004, 07:03 AM Do you have stats, of how many of the visitors, who just click down the pop-under window, and how many who stays on your web site ?
Gen-T 04-15-2004, 07:11 AM Does anybody else find it ironic that most of these places say your site can't have pop-ups if you want to use their service, but they themselves are using pop-ups to drive the traffic?
hehe.... ;)
HakonHoy 04-15-2004, 07:26 AM hehe. I was just thinking about it Gen-T. And what about having sound on your web site so that the visitor actually notice your web site has is there, in a pop-under. What if the visitors actually notice the web site, instead of just clicking it down at once. Its a strange business that traffic driving business..... heh
Theres loads of these around.
I actually paid I think this one or a very similar one $3, $3 wasnt much so I just paid and yes I got hits but nobody went past the first page.
Dan
stripeyteapot 04-15-2004, 07:31 AM I think I'll use SEO to promote my sites :P
Acroplex 04-15-2004, 09:12 AM Caution, a pop-under is not a visitor, it's a randomly opened window that might appear to somebody from Korea or Turkmenistan.
Philipf 04-15-2004, 09:24 AM Well its hour 14 and i've had 58 visitors, they have 10 more hours to give me another 942 :)
The visitors did seem to look around, and were on the pages from 30seconds to 25mins.
Acroplex 04-15-2004, 09:32 AM Philipf, where are the visitors coming from, based on the IPs?
Philipf 04-15-2004, 10:01 AM 1 single IP followed by trafficserver.html
Acroplex 04-15-2004, 10:09 AM ??????????
The hits/visitors are being proxied via a single IP?
That can only mean one thing.....
Vortex-Steve 04-15-2004, 10:20 AM Thats just the address of the window that opens and then loads your site. If you give it some time and check your logs you will see you are getting the unique IPs, at least I did.
JHServers 04-15-2004, 10:26 AM I signed up for this before I even read this thread. I noticed some results. For instance, I started yesterday with 5000 impressions for like $8.75 or whatever. Yesterday I also got my highest number of clicks from google adsense. And my impressions higher than normal. I think it does work a bit and hey, for $1.75 if you get 1 customer out of the thousands of impressions, it's still worth it right?
aqi32 04-15-2004, 10:45 AM i posted a thread warnign about adsense and these traffic programmes.
After being concerend with adsense and their terms regarding popups i contacted them and they indeed confirmed that if they caught you putting adsense on paegs that appear in these fullscreen pop-unders that don't have an address bar and they will cancel your adsense account!
I was, as many people, intrigued by the thought of getting instant visitors with no hard work, but have gone back to what i know best, good old seo and 100% real live people that actually WANT to visit my site :)
Hostex Australia 04-15-2004, 11:17 AM Originally posted by aqi32
i posted a thread warnign about adsense and these traffic programmes.
After being concerend with adsense and their terms regarding popups i contacted them and they indeed confirmed that if they caught you putting adsense on paegs that appear in these fullscreen pop-unders that don't have an address bar and they will cancel your adsense account!
I was, as many people, intrigued by the thought of getting instant visitors with no hard work, but have gone back to what i know best, good old seo and 100% real live people that actually WANT to visit my site :)
did you hear that guys?
Bub :)
phill2003 04-15-2004, 11:23 AM Originally posted by Bub Host
did you hear that guys?
Bub :)
nope but they did read it :D lol sorry man couldnt resist :).......
Hostex Australia 04-15-2004, 11:32 AM Originally posted by phill2003
nope but they did read it :D lol sorry man couldnt resist :).......
lol, I knew someone was going to say that, correction, TYPE that :D
Bub :)
geesh.net 04-15-2004, 01:40 PM Your visits will depend on the target you purchase. If you buy untargeted, you will get visits from anywhere in the world.
You set the daily cap of how many visitors you want. They are usually delivered in 30 days, unless you change your daily cap settings.
Thank you for your comments RaineTech.
BF-Gary 04-15-2004, 02:28 PM Buyer beware:
www.ifaker.com
joshiee 04-15-2004, 03:09 PM very interesting stuff
Philipf 04-15-2004, 03:24 PM I got the email shorlty after posting to show that i could change the daily cap, so the signup email was a fair few hours late.
geesh.net 04-15-2004, 03:28 PM Campaigns are set-up within 24 hours of ordering.
There are no "auto-hit" programs used. I think this whole issue was beat to death in this thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246957).
PCplayground 04-15-2004, 03:49 PM Originally posted by geesh.net
There are no "auto-hit" programs used. I think this whole issue was beat to death in this thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246957).
I am in no way trying to discredit you or your business.
However, that thread proves nothing. Just because one competitor doesn't do something doesn't mean no one else does.
I do not see why this issue is even being brought up though. Seems like your service is okay from what users are saying.
Philipf 04-15-2004, 06:45 PM There seems to be something a bit fishy going on, buti cant be 100% sure.
I had the daily cap set to 1000 as of this afternoon, but only 20mins ago, it said i had 500 left. So i click on update cap and there goes 20 visitors...hmmm....so i carried on clicking the update cap button and watched the visitors drop drop down to 180 ish and just this minute, it is down to 0. Now, for these 500 odd visitors, i have been signed into livehelp and have not seen 1 visitor to the site during these 500 visits.
Any explanation?
geesh.net 04-15-2004, 11:31 PM Like previously said, that prior thread about TargetedVisitors answers this question. I know it takes a loooooong time to loo through, but (as we both buy from the same supplier) here is how it works (as taken directly from that thread):
when you set your daily cap, our system divides it by 24 (24
hours in a day) and then creates an hourly cap from that. So assuming that you set you cap at 2000, our system will set your hourly cap to 84. Every hour on the hour 84 credits will be added into your queue and then traffic is delivered based upon the amount of credits in your queue. This ensures that your traffic will be divided up over the course of the whole day rather then exhausting your cap all in a couple of hours. Now, lets say that our system has built up 150 credits in your queue and then you change your cap to 4000 in the middle of the afternoon. Our traffic server will divide that by 24 and come up with 167 credits for your hourly cap and immediately add the first hour (167 credits) into your existing queue of 150 credits giving you a total of 317 credits. So, what will happen here is that you may see a sudden burst of traffic get pushed through because our system recognizes that your queue has grown, giving it a higher priority rate
Hostex Australia 04-15-2004, 11:49 PM Originally posted by geesh.net
Like previously said, that prior thread about TargetedVisitors answers this question. I know it takes a loooooong time to loo through, but (as we both buy from the same supplier) here is how it works (as taken directly from that thread):
when you set your daily cap, our system divides it by 24 (24
hours in a day) and then creates an hourly cap from that. So assuming that you set you cap at 2000, our system will set your hourly cap to 84. Every hour on the hour 84 credits will be added into your queue and then traffic is delivered based upon the amount of credits in your queue. This ensures that your traffic will be divided up over the course of the whole day rather then exhausting your cap all in a couple of hours. Now, lets say that our system has built up 150 credits in your queue and then you change your cap to 4000 in the middle of the afternoon. Our traffic server will divide that by 24 and come up with 167 credits for your hourly cap and immediately add the first hour (167 credits) into your existing queue of 150 credits giving you a total of 317 credits. So, what will happen here is that you may see a sudden burst of traffic get pushed through because our system recognizes that your queue has grown, giving it a higher priority rate
ok ok, so you obviously have publishers who publish the pop up ads on there website right? May we have the URL to the website where publishers can actually sign up to publish your popups? Thanks...
Bub :)
Dan Grossman 04-16-2004, 12:05 AM He's just a reseller and can't give you that information. However, the company he resells is quite legit. You're not going to get any extra information by starting another thread than from that 16 pager linked, not for a few months at least before the system for resellers to refer new publishers for percentage commissions is finished.
lol...Why do I have the feeling that this thread is looking just like another thread that sprung up not long ago, and that it's gonna finish in exactly the same way? These guys seem to want to "protect the identity of their publishers" but I'm sure one publisher wouldn't mind having their identity revealed. That is, if there are any publishers.
Dan Grossman 04-16-2004, 12:13 AM It's because none of the resellers of any of the main traffic selling companies that offer reseller programs tell their resellers who the publishers are. Some are real, some are scams, and it's unfortunately up to the end user to figure out who's legitimate and who's not, and even if the company's visitors are real people, that doesn't mean they're responsive either (autosurfs, for example).
HostQuest 04-16-2004, 03:12 AM Botom line, do it the old fashion way, get indexed by Google, Submit to Dmoz directory, word of mouth, and paid ads.
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