WebSeeker
11-12-2001, 07:46 AM
The worst experience EVER with an affiliate network I had was with CJ.com as i can recall the last 6-7 years i work with Internet
I sent them 7 emails and 1 fax and when I tried to call the lady there she said that she didn't find any of my emails or the fax even I have received an email confirmation that she accepted and read the email and of course that the fax transmitted ok.
Without giving me an excuse for this she said 'ok… now do you want something from us ?'
I carbon copy the emails I sent several times to other departments also but they didn't care a bit for a reply for more than 45 days.
Maybe they work only for big guys and not all the other people they want to give them their money.
I find companies they lie so easy a threat for internet community and only a big slap can weak them up a little.
Bcentral.com support is great and their system allow you to create as many programs as you want but unfortunately no affiliates join under your programs (at least for me the last 1.5 year) so I cancelled my subscription.
That's my experience so far.
I would like to ask all of you if there is a network that you tried with good or excellent results.
Can the affiliates and the affiliate networks bring you an income so that you can rest and wait from them or in other words can they send you income to consider it as you main job ?
PS. ADVERTISERS KEEP AWAY FROM CJ.com (Commission Junction)
For Publishers it's OK.
WebSeeker
bitserve
11-13-2001, 07:03 AM
I agree totally about commission junction.
They attempted to modify the year long agreement that we had entered into with them. Luckily we settled after court, but there was some general counsel involved.
Now, they are claiming that they never received cancellation notification, and after our one year agreement is up have started charging us money which we never agreed to pay.
They went from a good system where they expanded and managed our affiliate program to a lousy system where they have attempted to shift all of the burden of managing and expanding our affilicate program back on us, even though it's what we paid them for.
And their affiliates are mostly terrible. They aren't verified AT all. Anyone can create as many affiliate accounts as they want and you don't even need a valid email address! When they still had perclick programs the amount of fraud was terrible!
I had to add more on here. They're affiliate tracking system has also never worked properly (at least not like they have it documented that it should work), and they make numerous billing errors related to simple math.
IMHO.
WebSeeker
11-13-2001, 07:08 PM
bitserver
i'm not happy for your experience but i'm happy to see i'm not alone.
Commission Junction looks reputable but they are worst even from a newbie businessman.
We should spread the news to the internet community and i'm so pissed off and insulted from their behavior that this will go live even on magazines.
I have two friends editors in chief in two magazines. One is for internet issues.
Anyway. TO the facts
Do you have any experience for this :
I would like to ask all of you if there is a network that you tried with good or excellent results.
Can the affiliates and the affiliate networks bring you an income so that you can rest and wait from them or in other words can they send you income to consider it as you main job ?
Thanks
WebSeeker
WebSeeker
11-15-2001, 11:22 AM
Anyone with positive affiliate network experience ?
mybiz
11-15-2001, 01:04 PM
Check out goflip.com
they are new in town but have a special right now for free signup.
WebSeeker
11-16-2001, 06:48 AM
Is there any affiliate network that guarantee your success.
Even i don't think it exist such thing it would be ok if they don't charge setup or monthly fee.
We seek for a reputable affiliate network with normal prices which will handle also they payments of our affiliates.
CJ.com looked good but as you read in this post they are the worst of all (in my opinion)
I saw Clickbank.com but i don't know if they allow you to use only their affiliate program without using their credit card system
Directleads.com also look good but never heard any positive or negative comments.
The same with onresponse.com
I found some of them here http://www.10-best-affiliate-programs.com/affiliate-networks.html
It has reviews for affiliates to join but it can be used also for advertisers (merchants) as reference.
WebSeeker
miami_g
11-16-2001, 08:44 AM
Hello,
i have been following this thread and even started one myself.
if you dont use CJ as an advertiser, where next. try calling linkshare , see how their prices and monthly minimum differs, few hosts on this board could afford to advertise with link share.
many others are wanna be's cloning CJ.
as for running your own affiliate program, would'nt the same scumbags apply to your program if you ran it internally?
what about if you offered your affiliate program only to current users--might create less action but high quality!!
in the end if you dont like the scumbags on geocities applying for affiliate partnership from your CJ program you click no thanks.
if you run your own affiliate program you would click no thanks.
we are still undecided..... look at the charge back % in cj for the web hosting companies, then sniff around other types of programs. lots of dishonesty in this biz......
dos centavos.
el_g
WebSeeker
11-16-2001, 02:11 PM
You're right about dishonesty.
However I believe one click bring a second click and so on.
If you'are known people trust you because you have better product awareness at their mind
Afterall this is what all advertisers want.
I don't know if I must join in a affiliate network or create a nomorehits.com to gain unlimited traffic.
CJ was the only big guy of this area.
Linkshare look amateur (lot of bugs to their system)
Reporting.net I must sell my car to enter their program (about 5.000USD setup if I'am correct) with lot of buy gus like altavista and others.
So what next ?
That's the question
miami_g
11-16-2001, 05:11 PM
we are waiting a watching that new crop of hosting advertisers.
see how they match up against hostrocket powweb and jumpline.
of course the economy is in the dump so will less than good returns from the new cj advertisers be accurate barometers?
let you know in jan
el_g;)
bitserve
11-17-2001, 12:12 AM
When Commission Junction originally started making changes to their merchant contract (which we argued was breach of contract and settled out of court), we got solicited by an organization named PlugInGo (plugingo.com) They obviously solicited every CJ merchant and I wonder if they got a lot of CJ people to switch.
We're currently including them in our list of affiliate program management services while we do our search for a better one.
We might just drop our affiliate program.
WebSeeker
11-18-2001, 07:08 AM
So the result is don't do affiliate program or make one on your site only ?
Affiliate didn't work with anyone here in this forum ?
If it did what steps he followed to achieve a positive outcome ?
MonkeyC
10-07-2005, 12:44 PM
Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences. I've been suspicious of CJ because I just don't think their numbers add up. As a publisher I feel like I'm sending lots of referrals but I've seen only one sales commission.
I see all these ads for affiliate programs where people say they make thousands of dollars a month or even in a day and so far it looks to me like the affiliate companies are the ones making the thousands a day.