Take a look at this...

http://www.sdcolo.com

I was do some research and came across this

ANy ideas

:sickface:

They seem to be the same company as cari.net; cari.net is a pretty large company here in the San Diego area since they server many of the local business.

From what I understand and read on www.computoredge.com they are using a new provider which I believe is Skyriver Wireless. Which may also explain why www.cari.net also offers a T1 line for only $149.00

Well, I don't think I would have a problem with this company. They clearly state:
UNLIMITED
100 Mbps Access

Which to me would meen I get full access to the 100Mbps.

I hate unlimited hosts just as much as the next joe. Heck, I even started off hosting with SimpleNet, before they became yahoo. I really don't have a beef with this one.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but bandwidth would be the 100Mbps measurement right?

If that's the case, it isn't really unlimited if they cap it at 100 is it?

If I've misunderstood the term 'bandwidth' please correct me.


Regards,
Aron N.

You are right;

If you get 100MBps and multiply it by 60 seconds X 60 minutes X 24 hours X 30 days you will get the maximum amount of MBs you can transfer which in this case will be in the Gigabytes.

Isn't this correct?

This is just another company misusing the word unlimited

This is wrong

Joe

Originally posted by JBIZ718
This is just another company misusing the word unlimited

This is wrong

Joe

I agree with missuing the word unlimited, but lets see some examples where companies use the word unlimited properly.

Maybe I should start a new thread :)

I think the confusion is in the definition of the word 'bandwidth' as opposed to 'transfer'

(Transfer being the amount of data being sent, bandwidth being the amount of data allowed at once)

Saying 'as much transfer as will fit into the capped bandwidth' would be fine, but they say 'unlimited bandwidth' right underneath the cap of allowed bandwidth usage.

100(MBPS) * 60(SEC) * 60(MIN) * 24(HRS) * 30(DAYS)
= 259200000MB or 253125GB per month. ;)

The very fact we even discuss this company, promotes them. I wish people wouldnt even bring up these unlimited companys. I could offer unlimited all day long. Of course advertising such a thing would be unethical.

Originally posted by Kyle Babich
100(MBPS) * 60(SEC) * 60(MIN) * 24(HRS) * 30(DAYS)
= 259200000MB or 253125GB per month. ;)

I'm sorry to tell you, but it's 253125gigabits per month ;)
To get it in gigabytes you'd have to divide it by eight, which would make it 31640gigabytes per month :)

I was do some research and came across this

ANy ideas

Yeah, they are a good company. They clearly state you have as much bandwidth you can is within that 10 or 100 Mbps pipe.

cbaker17 is right, I don't think you should bring these guys up in WHT. They make affordablecolo.com seem not so affordable.

This is just another company misusing the word unlimited

I am with you. Hell, damn AOL offering unlimited Interenet access. Damn unlimited weekend cell phone minutes too.

It is called marketing.

umbilly, for what we offer, we are the most affordable game in town and are unrivaled. So im not worried in the least bit, we have been around for over 8 years, which pales in comparison to any of our competitors. Unlimited is marketing, a marketing lie. If you want to host with someone who lies then great im all for it. I myself prefer to sell a tangible service, so the customers knows exactly what he/she is getting.

I don't see lies, just good marketing. They very clearly state that they are offering unlimited bandwidth on certain sized ports. They are doing nothing like ***** and others and are trying to fool no one. The only thing they are guilty of is coming up with a headline that grabs your attention and makes you want to read the page.

The very fact that they limit you to a certain throughput (IE port speed) makes it limited, hence a lie.

umbilly, for what we offer, we are the most affordable game in town and are unrivaled. So im not worried in the least bit, we have been around for over 8 years, which pales in comparison to any of our competitors.

Well, no offense, but if you were that "unrivaled", then after 8 years you should be a household name. I never heard of either companies until I came here. (You have always been fair and honest in the forums, so I have no doubt the compnay is good and you offer great services, so don't think I am attacking you guys.)

I myself prefer to sell a tangible service, so the customers knows exactly what he/she is getting.

I don't think you can get any more tangable then "10 Mbps" which they state right below the marketing catch - "unlimited".

As a long time Carinet customer, I can tell you they are honest and they are always on the tip of the spear. Three years ago they started "Become your own ISP" on RAQs. They continue to push the limits. frontserver talked about the Skyriver Wireless T1 line for only $149.00. He forgot to mention that includes to local loop! No dealing with telcos. This is also a dedicated 1.5 connection too. SDColo is their new launch.

And you have always seemed to attack us, weve been in the internet business for over 4 years now and the network business for over 8 years. Were a private company, which would explain why were not a household name. ANd we never had millions of dollars in VC funding to market. Weve focused on providing a high end product, the best in customer service at a phenomonal price.
We work for our customers, not investors. YOull never see huge billboards with our name on it. Because simply we have more then enough business to keep us busy rather then wasting money like all the other dot coms who are now under.

We are around today, and will be around until either all of our partners die, or the internet ceases to exist.

As far as your local loop statment, wireless does not utilize a local loop.

I suggest you stop being so demeaning to people and start seeing both sides.

The very fact you would even comment about our company being a house hold name show what type of character you have.

To our customers, friends, competitors, and the industry we are a household name. And thats all we wish for. Im here to serve my customers not some image.

I will have to say our expierence at affordable colo has been very good...

Top notch network, top notch uptime, overall we use are own techs, but if there was any issues, there resolved right away

Overall one of the best out there

Joe

And you have always seemed to attack us

Really? Show me one post. Really. I will hound you until you do, because this is bull. If it is true, then I will apologize.

As far as your local loop statment, wireless does not utilize a local loop.

Never said it does. The "to" should be "no", hence no dealing with telcos. I wanted people to understand that there are no hidden charges with it like a local loop charge when you by a standard t1.

I suggest you stop being so demeaning to people and start seeing both sides.

I always love this comment when people post. I believe if you take the time to read most post I have done, I clearly point out the other side on post where most people are scared to go for fear of retribution. While everyone is jumping on the unlimband bandwagon, I posted on that thread asking questions no one could give clear answers to. I am clearly against unlimited. I am not for competitors attacking other host because they market different. Here is your post

The very fact we even discuss this company, promotes them. I wish people wouldnt even bring up these unlimited companys. I could offer unlimited all day long. Of course advertising such a thing would be unethical.

Seems to be, you are the one who opened the attack. Basically calling SD Colo unethical. If you want to post against a competitor, be prepared to defend it. Don't just push it off like I instigated it. Also, I am not the one who posted I have "unrivaled" offerings. That is arrogant considering there is a lot of quality competition.

Originally posted by T_E_O


I'm sorry to tell you, but it's 253125gigabits per month ;)
To get it in gigabytes you'd have to divide it by eight, which would make it 31640gigabytes per month :)


Woah are you sure? Is that the way the measure it?

Can anyone verify this for me? does that mean that a guy with a 10MBps line gets 3164 Gigs per month? that's nuts!

i can't even imagine what to do with that kind of bandwidth.

Also, can anyone tell me what "burstable" means finally? i've heard so many translations i'm so confused.

and does 100MBps REALLY mean 31640 Gigs a month for BW?

Can anyone verify this for me? does that mean that a guy with a 10MBps line gets 3164 Gigs per month? that's nuts!

Yes, this is correct. However, it is Mbps not MBps.

Originally posted by UmBillyCord


Yes, this is correct. However, it is Mbps not MBps.

Exactly.. with Mbps you get gigabits if you multiply it by second, minutes, hours and then days instead of gigabytes :)
BTW, I don't understand why there's always so much confusion about this as it really is not that difficult.
I guess this is also the reason many connection speeds are notated as Mbps instead of megabits/sec.. sometimes it even states MBps where they mean megaBITS/sec :(
'They' probably hope that you will take it as megaBYTES/sec

Who cares if they say unlimited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You get 100mb/s max for $2500. If you buy directly from Cogent you can only get it at $3000 per month unless you buy a full Gigabit connection from them. Hes a hell of a bargain already. Why are you guys complaining if it says unlimited. Who can even give that much bandwidth for that much of a price. Its a steal!!!!!! Not many people use this much bandwidth in the first place and its a fraction the cost of a T3 line and double the capacity.

Originally posted by ClusterMania
Who cares if they say unlimited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You get 100mb/s max for $2500. If you buy directly from Cogent you can only get it at $3000 per month unless you buy a full Gigabit connection from them. Hes a hell of a bargain already. Why are you guys complaining if it says unlimited. Who can even give that much bandwidth for that much of a price. Its a steal!!!!!! Not many people use this much bandwidth in the first place and its a fraction the cost of a T3 line and double the capacity.

What I was thinking about... I imagine that if you host your box with this company, you will of course get a 100mbit/s connection to a switch or maybe even a router.
This is of course great, as you can send mp3's to other people colocated there at 11megabytes a second, but who says that this connection is really 100mbit/sec to the outside world as well ?
What I mean is that the speed of their connection is only as good as the worst speed on their bandwidth provider.. and the peerings of the bandwidth provider.. and so on...

Please note that this is just my feeling about this kind of businesses; I am not saying that it is the way THEY do business!

The very fact that they limit you to a certain throughput (IE port speed) makes it limited, hence a lie.Except that they offer you unlimited access to a limited port. That isn't a lie.


Andrew

Originally posted by T_E_O


Exactly.. with Mbps you get gigabits if you multiply it by second, minutes, hours and then days instead of gigabytes :)
BTW, I don't understand why there's always so much confusion about this as it really is not that difficult.
I guess this is also the reason many connection speeds are notated as Mbps instead of megabits/sec.. sometimes it even states MBps where they mean megaBITS/sec :(
'They' probably hope that you will take it as megaBYTES/sec

Well generally when I am typing I get lazy and just say 'mb' or 'gb' when I actually mean MB and GB, generally people know what I mean though.

In this particular case when you are dealing with several thousand of GB one way or another I think it would matter to only about 1% of potential clients ;)

oh man! another unlimited company...................when will this stop?

jim

oh man! another unlimited company...................when will this stop?

jimb, quick add them to your list. On with the crusade!!!!!

LOL....can you or someone go to my site and submit them so that I have a record of it. Thanks,

Another company that will more than like get pissed off at me in a couple days when they learn that they are on the list! :) :)

Jim

Actually, I was being sarcastic.

I know, i know...

its getting alittle out of hand....

Jim

its getting alittle out of hand....

Where you will be, I will be. ;)

I did a little investigation, please coorect me if I am wrong.

sdcolo.com is connected to level3 via cari.net. so cari.net is their upstream provider.

Here is a quote from cari.net:
Resell Colocated Servers

Full Cabinets - Tiered Bandwidth $500
Full Cabinets - Unlimited Bandwidth 10 Mbs $2,000
Full Cabinets - Unlimited Bandwidth 100 Mbs $4,000

Here is a quote from sdcolo.com, which we discuss here:

Full Cabinet $ 2,500 for unlimited bandwidth plan
Full Cabinet $ 500 for the tiered bandwidth plan
Half Cabinet $ 300 for the tiered bandwidth plan

So it seems, that sdcolo is just a reseller at discounted prices
of cari.net services. I bet they do not have a seperate datacenter.

So it seems, that sdcolo is just a reseller at discounted prices

Close. SD Colo, Host2Own, Domain Gurus and Carinet are all one company. They have 2 lit OC 48s that they get bandwidth from Level3 and Geniuity. They also have 1 (or 2) seperate OC 48s from Cogent who moved in next to them.