From this ONE thread HERE (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=254420&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) we find the President of iNet saying:

by relledge

With the utmost respect I say, CHILL OUT DUDE!

Some people just need to quit acting so damn childish around here... it gets old.

That's all I'm gonna say on this issue, as it is completely rediculous that there is a 2 page thead on this.


Then later on from an iNet Founder:

by Gabriel Murphy

Yea, it is sad ethics- we sent out a newsletter- err, spam....

Our "behavior" should indicate the worst- better run now...

Everything Inet has done to date has been in an attempt to draw money from WHT members- absolutely! WHTChat, WHTRadio, yep, all cost $$$.

We won't sell personal info- just yours- to every spammer we can find. It is a conspiricy- iNET is out to make things difficult for you by spamming you and selling your information...

Your "newsletter" is nothing but a long advertisment to try and sell memberships. There is nothing of use in there and certainly no news. -- I know! Nothing about WHTChat and WHTRadio- they were not at at the top. Hell, it was not even useful though so it does not count. I know they will start charging me for it too...


I am curious, do you even read your post before you hit the Submit button? Your lack of objectivity and truthfulness makes your intent obvious. What have we done to provide you with the hatred and motivation to lie about the contents of our email, our "Everything Inet has done to date has been in an attempt to draw money", etc?

If you really fear from our "behavior" that we are selling your personal information, you are a fool.

I recommend you grow-up and back-up your statements with some facts. You have a respectible number of posts here at WHT. I hope your other posts have had more meaning and truth to them....


Immediately followed by the President of iNet again:
by relledge

I just find it amusing that a person who has over 4000 posts (forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you do have over 4,000 posts but it doesn't show right now as I am typing this) gets to promote his/her site for free on a highly trafficed site such as WHT would complain about getting a newsletter which is sent by a site which has undoubtedly benefited your company without your paying a penny... and you complain about it. To me that is hilarious.

I will personally see to it that your email has been removed from our database and that we don't inconvenience you any further.



wow

I can guarantee you 100% that if I used that kind of reasoning with ANY of my customers they would immediately look for another host.

I also have another job in which I have a boss that presides over my performance. Concerning that position, I can say with utmost certainty that if in that role I were to take this same tone and attitude with ANY customers, I would at the least be reprimanded if not outright fired.

The first thoughts I had while reading this thread was "Wow, how rude" .. quickly followed by "I wonder how old these people are?"... at which point I looked at the Names and titles... followed by shock... Really...

I swear, if I was the owner of this board, I'd fire you both. I don't expect this thread to remain intact long if it is even allowed to stay up at all and not outright deleted.

bye blue27...

They can talk like that because they know we have nowhere else to go. :emlaugh:

And noone wants to frequent an empty forum.

How much do your clients pay you?

How much do you pay to WHT?

See the difference?

Good.

There are other places to go...

http://httptalk.com

*http://hosthideout.com

Watch me have my account "disabled" now. *sigh*

EDIT: Fixed the spelling, duh. Thanks aragon. :D

I suddenly think my dormant account at hosthideout.com will start getting some use.

Originally posted by binaris
There are other places to go...

http://httptalk.com

http://hostinghideout.com

Watch me have my account "disabled" now. *sigh*

it's http://hosthideout.com :)

Originally posted by midPhase-Zak
How much do your clients pay you?

How much do you pay to WHT?

See the difference?

Good.

People originally came here for the community discussion, not to be commercially exploited.

It has nothing to do with how much we pay them, but how much they get from advertisers.

Originally posted by midPhase-Zak
How much do you pay to WHT?


I view ads, and advertisers pay wht.. I'm thinking quite a bit.

Originally posted by midPhase-Zak
How much do your clients pay you?

How much do you pay to WHT?

See the difference?

Good.

I run a FREE HOSTING service.

My clients pay me nothing.

I pay nothing to WHT. I WAS planning on a Premium Membership, but don't plan on it either, now.

I make money off of the advertising I do, so there is NO difference. See what I mean?

Good.

WHT is nothing without its membership. It's a shame iNet seems to look down their noses at the very people who make WHT what it is.

And I would certainly expect management to use some decorum and some professionalism when posting. Attacking members by calling them childish and fools is so far off the map in terms of proper protocol, it's barely worth even discussing.

A real bloody shame the direction this place is taking...in a hurry...

Vito

Well said vito. :agree:

Could not say it better Vito!

This place has was turned over to a bunch of egotistical, unprofessional and down right rude people.

And I DO have a right to have an opinion, just like I have the right to have an opinion on the way my country is run as well.

These folks better shake the ego's from thier head and start shaping this place up, the exodus from this place is ugly.

I just finished reading Blue27's thread and I must agree with his points, but that is totally off topic, but the point I am trying to make is that they are starting to drive off the very people who made WHT what it was, and I emphasise, was.

Anyways, enough of this, time to go and do something more productive with my time.

Cheers! :)

/bin/false

"We goofed. We should have placed a notice on the boards for members to opt-in to the newsletter but we didn't. We apologize for sending something you did not request.

"Also please accept our regrets if you have already opted out. All future newsletters will be sent ONLY to those have specifically signed up to receive them.

"We will redouble our efforts to earn your trust back."

That's what they should have said, but. . .95% of this would have been over with in about a minute.

Well uhh... bad PR is better than no PR, I suppose.

Can't hate on them too much, as who wants to be banned from WHT? :)

iNet has no principal behind anything they say - all they do is compare, and assume WHT benefits us, so we owe them something in return. No one owes anyone anything here, except respect. They have the lamest excuse for that newsletter.... if they can't recognize the lines that newsletter crossed, then MAN- what is going on with these people. Like I said, it is the principle behind it all!

WHT is too big and too much of a responsibility for it to be in the hands of people who cant even respond to conflicting issues in a civilized manner.

My II cents

well is iNet going to make a statement or not? They know they were wrong and cant even admit it! :puke:

The members on this board were the ones that were starting to scare me off .... but that post pretty much did it for me. Time to join Chicken again?

Originally posted by WhereToLook
. . . I swear, if I was the owner of this board, I'd fire you both.
You have to take the above comments into context, with inet being attacked for sending out a newsletter to members of WHT.

I wouldn't call any of that rude, or insulting. It was some spirited interaction. Maybe not something I would do, but I am not in the shoes of the WHT owners. I guess they're frustrated at all the extreme nit picking that happens, whenever they try something.

Originally posted by Bub Host
well is iNet going to make a statement or not?
A "statement" about what?
They know they were wrong and cant even admit it! :puke:
Wrong about what? Some spirited discussion?

Sprited discussion? Okay... Looked more like they were insulting members that had been here long before them.

If I went and did something like that, I'd certainly at least be prepared for the reprocussions. Throwing a fit and yelling at critism sure doesn't make your stance look anymore legitimate.

Well i dont like how inet runs things. theres a little something about some money they owe me and they wont refund. but thats old news.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob

A "statement" about what? [/B]

maybe they could apologize for being so rude to members that have made WHT what it is and maybe a statement about how they are going to try their best to fix WHT up a little....

Wrong about what? Some spirited discussion? [/B]

they are wrong for sending that newsletter, wrong for being so rude, wrong for turning WHT into a what nobody around here seems to like....

Originally posted by Bub Host
they are wrong for sending that newsletter, wrong for being so rude, wrong for turning WHT into a what nobody around here seems to like....

That is your opinion, and your entitled to it. It's story time now

There's a BestBuy about 5 miles from my house, A few years back I went there to get a DVD player, There was a salesman there that just happend to be one of the managers as well. He was extremely pushy, rude, and kept persisting that I sign up for a BestBuy Credit Card to make my purchase. Did I complain to him? Did I whine about how the service was bad and I didn't like it? No, I left, I drove an additional 3 miles and purchased my DVD player from Circuit City. To this day I haven't been back in that BestBuy and nor will I ever go back.

WHT isn't the only hosting community around here, There are plenty of others around you can go to if you don't like it here or the way things are run.

In the history of "New Management" I don't think anyone in any business has ever liked it, it's called adapting get used to it.

As for the whole "I got spammed" issue, That little box that you may have ticked not to recieve mail from the admins. Well iNET isn't the admin, they are the OWNER. And further on the issue lets look from a business point of view real quick.

WHT has 60,000+ members now I am guessing here so I will shoot high, but there are probably around 10,000 members that their accounts are disabled. That leaves 50,000 members. I remember one of the mods posting a while back that there was something like 6,000 members that have posted since September 03. Leaving 40,000 members that do not know about this new service that iNET offers. It seems completely within reason for them to send that newsletter out.

I just find it amusing that a person who has over 4000 posts (forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you do have over 4,000 posts but it doesn't show right now as I am typing this) gets to promote his/her site for free on a highly trafficed site such as WHT would complain about getting a newsletter which is sent by a site which has undoubtedly benefited your company without your paying a penny

That was the choice quote. Given the four+ years I've posted here and the time involved divided by the number of customers we've gained from this place, I'd swap them for the profit of a single top banner for one week. :) Let's see who benefits then.

WHT is only here because of it's membership, not the other way around.. ;)

Originally posted by Bub Host
. . . they are wrong for sending that newsletter, wrong for being so rude, wrong for turning WHT into a what nobody around here seems to like....
Well, that's your opinion, based on a few weeks of being a member.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Well, that's your opinion, based on a few weeks of being a member.

yeah.....and a year or so of lurking here :rolleyes:

and it's not only my opinion, but also the opinion of lots of other WHT members who have been here for a long time. The newsletter didn't bother me to much, I just deleted it and moved on, but I can't believe how rude iNet was in that other thread....

There appears to be a few such threads on this subject, I don't think we need em all.