Don't know how many of you have read this, but I found it most helpfull. It certainly opens your eyes a bit!!!!

http://www.forumhosts.com/hosts.htm

Still waiting for anyone to give me thier verdict on VServers/Hostpro

I'm glad to hear you found it useful. Good luck in your search for a good host!

Dear Deb

Cheers for the reply - thought the article was excellent, and has hopefully stopped me falling into a nightmare situation. I now you don't like to recommend any particular host, but prefer to give advice and let a person make up their own minds - BUT:

I would be extreamly grateful for any sniff of feedback you could give me about peoples views on Hostpro/VServers.

Please!!!

Also you article does not mention Hostrocket - either good or bad - any reason?

The only thing I've ever heard about vServers, is that they offer outstanding technical support, and that they have a comprehensive manual. It isn't the cheapest way to go, but rarely are people interested in the "cheapest".

Chiliboy,

It's probably because HostRocket arrived on the web hosting scene with a bang about 4-5 months ago (or so), which is quite a bit of a way after Deb's informative articles.

(in case anyone wonders what I mean 'with a bang', the regs at Scriptkeeper will remember Brendan promoting the service shamelessly before being held down and forced to promise to obey the rules in the future :D Since then - smooth sailing for them)

A point made in Deb's article about the administrator at Scriptkeeper removing derogatory references to companies has just been reinforced. Some postings about Interland, which were not flattering, have been removed (in the last hour). This is the discussion that I referenced in another posting here, entitled "Interland". It had someone at Interland posting as general77 and the admin at Scriptkeeper saying their service was good, except for the NT side.

I added some news picked up from aww (alt.www.webmaster) newsgroup about 1000 sites being down 46+ hours. Apparently, that was enough to have it removed. It was also enough to convince me not to waste my time posting there any more. What's the purpose of a web hosting forum that won't let stand factual discussion of hosts?

I know some of you post there also. You might want to think about boycotting it also.

[Edited by Duster on 10-15-2000 at 07:59 PM]

Agreed. Not to mention they censor out the word vbulletin (which is more understandable, but still censorship).

In my early days, I thought Scriptkeeper was wonderful (even adding the comment "-great!" to the bookmark). I still pass by there, but it isn't a webhosting forum. If you have problems with a UBB, then it is wonderful. Though my recomendation, if you have problems with your UBB, would be to get vBulletin :)

Annette, the thread's been removed from existence as far as I can tell. However, the thread was titled 'Interland' and discussed Interland being a spam haven, etc. It was a very factual discussion and I must say I am extremely PO'ed at Scriptkeeper (particularly Slurpee) for handling the matter in such a way. Quite frankly, I'm disgusted.

Btw, I haven't checked AWW for about two months now, and I don't intend to. It's horrible now *shudders*

However, I'd refute partially the point about WHT being Alabanza-centric. I think you'd have to expect nearly any active web hosting forum to at least discuss Alabanza to some degree, considering the extent of their market share, and its *former* reputation as a d-hoster with little problems and phenomenal servers et. al. That said, however, there are plenty of hosts around which aren't using Alabanza , and we've even had an Alabanza vs. VDI shoot-out of sorts, with quite a few hosts moving on to VDI.

There goes my 2.2 cents of opinion for today... (including GST)...

It's the thread here titled "Interland" that references the now missing one there, which started with some one asking about two possible hosts, one of which was Interland. I filled him in about many reported problems from users, that they were easy to find, suggested he look here, and filled him in about the spamware site they hosted (which I reported on here back in June when I was spammed from them).

Someone else reported receiving many bulk mailings from Interland (whihc isn't spam). The forum admin posted in defense of them, and recommended their service as long as the NT side was avoided.

Someone registered as general77, made his one and only post in defense of Interland, saying they host 100,000 domains, so some problems are bound to happen. He also said he wished people would post accurate information. He said Interland warned the spamware site back in April and shut it down (giving the impression it was shut down in April). He posted the registration info showing the new host, changed as of 325 pm on October 1

I pointed out that my post was made on October 1 (so it was accurate at the time), and that Interland still let a site that sells spamware and performs spamming for others operate for 6 months. I also mentioned that a lot of damage can be caused in 6 months, and that they were still tolerant of spam and sympathizers, even if the publicity made them finally get rid of this one site.

I also pointed out what I said above about general77, and that we could make an educated guess who his commander in chief is.

However, the final straw was the posting with info from awww.

Incidentally, I do agree about all the advertising that goes on. I scan the topics for things that might interest me.

I get a lot more enjoyment in nanae with anti-spam efforts.

The posting about Interland in aww is as follows


Interland another 46hr+ outage for over 1000 sites (Memo, 10/15/ 2:51 pm)
The server we are on at Interland has been down for over 46 hours and still no answr from the company. Oddly enough tech support refers its customers over to the sales department so they can arrange "new" DNS numbers... what crappy service they offer.

It's not only our site which is down but over 1000 other sites on the same server -- aslurking@my-deja.com

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

I would be extreamly grateful for any sniff of feedback you could give me about peoples views on Hostpro/VServers.
There haven't been enough posts about them to bring them to my attention one way or another -- sorry I can't help you on that one.

Also you article does not mention Hostrocket - either good or bad - any reason?
A host has to gain, and keep, a good reputation over a period of time before they're added to my "recommended" list. They're still too new for that, but seem to have a solid reputation so far.

It's probably because HostRocket arrived on the web hosting scene with a bang about 4-5 months ago (or so), which is quite a bit of a way after Deb's informative articles.
I do update the page frequently.

A point made in Deb's article about the administrator at Scriptkeeper removing derogatory references to companies has just been reinforced. Some postings about Interland, which were not flattering, have been removed (in the last hour).
Thanks for the clarification. I had posted a message there asking people to e-mail me the details so I can, as I mentioned, keep my webpage updated. As you saw, Interland had a partisan, most likely an employee, post to that discussion. Interland therefore probably knew or was informed about the discussion and complained to InfoPop. InfoPop removes discussions when hosts complain for any reason. End of story. The moderator of that section is also very inconsistant, which is more of an issue for me. He locks discussions when people he doesn't like post messages, or views he doesn't agree with are aired. It is essential in a forum where posts can harm (and help) businesses that everyone be treated equally, and rules be enforced equitably. It's not done that way there, and is just one reason why that forum is becoming less and less useful to anyone who isn't a UBB user.

[Edited by Deb Suran on 10-16-2000 at 09:31 AM]

Oops, sorry, Deb, my mistake.