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matriarchy
11-02-2001, 01:45 AM
A week ago, I was a tiny brand-new reseller with giddy visions of building a nice little hosting product for my clients and for other small web developers like myself.

Today, I am thinking about getting a waitressing job.

I picked spewey (despite the really bad Flash intro), because a) they were attractively cheap, yet offering nothing "unlimited;" b) I liked owner Steve Smith after a couple long phone chats - our business styles and goals seemed to match; c) I am not buying their bad website copy, I am buying hosting.

But Steve told me he had a problem with his control panel and was discontinuing it in favor or something he had developed in-house. Unfortunately, he put ME on a server still using cpanel, and I was too new to know what it was.

Monday, I liked cpanel3. Tuesday morning, spewey had some sort of big disaster... but everything was quickly fixed... except on my server, which has problems that require him to get support from cpanel... and he is waiting for a response on a trouble ticket.

Perhaps my foolish mistake was moving a primary business website to an untested host. Perhaps it was Steve's mistake in not giving me a choice about which sort of server I wanted to be on. Certainly he is making a mistake in not calling or emailing me with an update after 36 hours of downtime.

But nonetheless, I am on my second full day of no business email on my two major websites. I can contact clients in process, but no new contacts and my almost-signed prospects ran like hell. My revenue streams have slammed to a complete halt. I am now in serious business trouble. I started auctioning my primo domain name stash and my extra equipment this afternoon.

My questions for the forum:

1. Think cpanel is really the problem or is Steve covering an internal problem?

2. Think it is reasonable for me to expect a full refund of my hosting fees? I need to go get a new hosting solution, and I want my money back to go do that. We are only talking about $64 dollars here... but I was a one-person shop already recovering from the business silence after Sept 11. I'm f*cked.

3. How have other small design/hosting shops recovered from such a disaster? What do I say to regain my clients' trust in my reliablity after they see me go down? I am supposed to be advising them on this sh*t and I make a major bad decision... what do I do for spin control? (Besides go to work for someone else... I'd rather keep staying home with my small children, even if Christmas is really sparse.)

Tracy

Joana
11-02-2001, 02:04 AM
I've been using Cpanel/WHM for a while now and got some problems now and then but nothing needed a complete down sites...

:eek:

(36 hours of downtime ???) :confused:

matriarchy
11-02-2001, 02:22 AM
This was the message on their system status link. Which has not been updated since then:

"10/31/2001 4:36 AM: UPS burned out. No power to Server banks 1, 2 & small portion of 3. All systems are now back in line with the exception of 1 zapitdns.com server ( 64.170.22.168) which lost hard drives. Zapitdns will be up shortly and NO data Has been lost. However, Users may be without cpanel until cpanel techs can get to our support ticket. We again ask that you email us to have your site permanently removed from the unreliable cpanel enabled servers. Our new control panel is scheduled for rollout on the 25th of November. ALL accounts WILL be moved during that time."

My issue is that I was never given a choice of servers, when apparently people are being *again* asked if they will move until the new panel rolls out.

I can see the panel is broken... it shows my disk space and bandwidth as 0.00 and has a fatal error message in the default address window.

I've been reading other threads on WHT and I see other complaints about cpanel sucking at support.

I am looking for suggestions about how to recover from this at this point. (Now that I am done venting.) We are not exactly in a robust economy. Thank god I didn't move any client sites.

SoftWareRevue
11-02-2001, 02:39 AM
The downtime, coupled with the lack of communication, I would find unacceptable.
I would move my clients to a different provider. And, if they asked, I would be truthful without trying to pass blame.

muppie
11-02-2001, 04:00 AM
I agree.... I'd move if it's me

MCHost-Marc
11-02-2001, 04:27 AM
CPanel/WHM can sometimes be a little bit buggy, but then again it has many more features than other control panels and if there are any problems they either get fixed by the dev. team or most hosts should be able to fix them by themselves.

Even if CPanel goes down, comes up with fatal errors, etc. the websites should still be up since the Apache webserver is serving the pages, not CPanel.

muppie
11-02-2001, 05:49 AM
Yup, CPanel is not the problem to blame.. it's more of the server and/or config that have problems.

We and a lot of other hosts run CPanel without much problems.

BurstNET
11-02-2001, 06:13 AM
Let me get this straight...
power outages, ups burnouts, and hard drive failures now make cpanel unreliable?

You are kidding, right?

We run over 300 servers with Cpanel/WHM software...(with less than 5 reboots per day on average overall!) and although it may have a few bugs, IT IS reliable.

Sean R.
BurstNET

Chicken
11-02-2001, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by BurstNET
Let me get this straight...
power outages, ups burnouts, and hard drive failures now make cpanel unreliable?

I think these were unrealated problems, or should I say additional problems the provider was having.