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linkmaster
03-15-2004, 05:21 PM
I want to purchase one new reseller account with
http://www.totalchoicehosting.com . But they do not provide more than 2 IPs on their bigger two reseller accounts.

Can someone provide me a few reasons to get dedicated IPs with my reseller account(except the 2 IPs which are provided with nameservers)?

One reason is anonymous FTP access. What else? As per Arin.

I need a few reasons to ask the dedicated IPs. I am willing to pay for the IPs but the host is not issueing IPs atall.

WII-Aaron
03-15-2004, 05:26 PM
Anonymous FTP and SSL sites are good reasons. Streaming services are another.

Aaron

Loon
03-15-2004, 05:47 PM
Well what are the reasons that you actually need them for?

cbaker17
03-15-2004, 06:21 PM
Yea, if you need to ask what reasons you should say, it doesnt sound like you need them. Please dont waste ip's, their a endagered species.

dftchris
03-15-2004, 06:22 PM
Will the rules for getting IPs get less strict when IPv6 starts becoming more widespread?

linkmaster
03-15-2004, 10:36 PM
As per my knowledge, Google treats dedicated IPs and shared IPs differently. Paying for a static IP isn't that hard, but getting your site's shared IP banned due to some notorious spammer will definately put you in trouble. Hence, taking precaution today itself!

And I am sure that Arin will do something and increase the count of IPs (from what it is now).


Any more reasons are welcome?

Techark
03-16-2004, 12:09 AM
That is a misnomer Google does not treat or rank web sites via IP.

As far as getting an IP banned by a spammer having your own IP will not make a difference. Spam list blacklist the mail server IP which is the main server IP whether you have your own IP or not all mail still passes through the main IP. Plus most blacklist block entire C classes not just one IP so if the servers IP gets blocked due to spamming your static IP will most likely get blocked also.


So what is your reason for needing more IP's?

weavweb
03-16-2004, 01:23 AM
Agreed Techark - I had this same issue when i was unable to forward mail to an aol account. AOL had blocked the main mail server's ip address due to another members abuse which ruined it for "the rest of us". Thus I'm unable to forward any mail to an AOL user's mailbox.

Dale

linkmaster
03-16-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Techark
That is a misnomer Google does not treat or rank web sites via IP.

As far as getting an IP banned by a spammer having your own IP will not make a difference. Spam list blacklist the mail server IP which is the main server IP whether you have your own IP or not all mail still passes through the main IP. Plus most blacklist block entire C classes not just one IP so if the servers IP gets blocked due to spamming your static IP will most likely get blocked also.


So what is your reason for needing more IP's?

Hmmm. I am not good at this web hosting and IPs stuff. Maybe I am wrong. But, that's the only reason I am asking for dedicated IPs.

I contacted http://www.totalchoicehosting.com and they replied with 7USD/month for each IP.



:(

cybexhost1
03-17-2004, 01:42 AM
If you do get them - $7 is WAY too much.

Andrew
03-17-2004, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by weavweb
Agreed Techark - I had this same issue when i was unable to forward mail to an aol account. AOL had blocked the main mail server's ip address due to another members abuse which ruined it for "the rest of us". Thus I'm unable to forward any mail to an AOL user's mailbox.

Dale

AOL blocks things for no reason whatsoever. Plus, putting spam controls in the hands of AOL users is like giving a loaded gun to your cat. I see spam reports from autoresponders, forum PM notifications, sales reciepts...you name it.

AOL is just awful. They're constantly blocking things and then when you call them on the phone, they claim they're not blocking anything. Then you have to sit there while the kid there makes sure the rdns is right (which it always is).

So, in short, there's only so much we can do to give you the ability to mail places. We can give you a working mail server, but we can't always guarantee that the people on the other end are on the ball enough to actually get it to it's destination.

jojobot
03-17-2004, 04:12 AM
SSL is the best reason, and infinitely reusable.

Keep in mind that the requirements aren't stipulated by ARIN, but by your webhosting company.

mdrussell
03-17-2004, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by WII-Aaron
Anonymous FTP and SSL sites are good reasons. Streaming services are another.

Aaron

Anonymous FTP doesn't require a dedicated IP address.

linkmaster
03-17-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by jojobot
SSL is the best reason, and infinitely reusable.

Keep in mind that the requirements aren't stipulated by ARIN, but by your webhosting company.

If I get an SSL certificate for each of my site, then will that open a window having the 'accept' button, each time someone visits my site? Like the one we get while paying on a secure server site.

mediopia
03-17-2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Anonymous FTP doesn't require a dedicated IP address.

interesting .... would you like to share how this could be done??

Regards,

Knogle
03-18-2004, 02:00 AM
AFAIK, anonymous FTP has always required a dedicated IP address.

mdrussell
03-18-2004, 04:19 AM
A quick search reveals - http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive/thread/63134-1.html