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Amish_Geek
03-15-2004, 11:55 AM
What was that site that explained why unlimited bandwidth doesn't exist? I'm searching for it, but the search is clogged with kiddie hosts who offer unlimited bandwidth.

blue27
03-15-2004, 11:56 AM
unlimband.com

At least they used to. They seem to have been taken over by a crap portal site.

Xshare
03-15-2004, 01:04 PM
I took it upon myself to recreate it, but as of yet, I haven't had a chance to follow through with it. You can still see it on the wayback machine.

RAV3
03-15-2004, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by amish_geek
What was that site that explained why unlimited bandwidth doesn't exist?

Pretty simple IMO and doesn't need a website. Bandwidth is calculated per month and you can only transfer at x mbps (10, 100, 1000, whatever). so you take that transfer rate per second and multiply it by the number of seconds in one month, you get your max bandwidth per month.

If i have a server on a 1mbit "unmetered" connection (just an example), I could tell my clients OK you guys have unlimited bandwidth! But they'll never be able to transfer more than ~300GB in that month, which is far from unlimited.

SimonMc
03-15-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by RAV3
Pretty simple IMO and doesn't need a website. Bandwidth is calculated per month and you can only transfer at x mbps (10, 100, 1000, whatever). so you take that transfer rate per second and multiply it by the number of seconds in one month, you get your max bandwidth per month.

If i have a server on a 1mbit "unmetered" connection (just an example), I could tell my clients OK you guys have unlimited bandwidth! But they'll never be able to transfer more than ~300GB in that month, which is far from unlimited.

Your average man in the street does not walk around with a calculator. He walks around with GREED in his eyes and is looking for something for nothing.

So a website pointing it out to the ignorant (which is MOST of the population of the world) is NOT a bad thing.

Simon

RAV3
03-15-2004, 04:15 PM
I know but I was explaining it to amish_geek who hopefully is not an ignorant ;)

As a side note, I'd rather not sell web hosting to ignorants because that will only bring more complaints, useless tech support tickets, and broken stuff. But that's a whole other topic...

RDX1
03-15-2004, 04:19 PM
Searched for "Unlimited Bandwidth" on google: http://www.findmyhosting.com/truthunlimited.htm :D

JWise
03-15-2004, 04:20 PM
Very hard to say whose ignorant and whose not. But, ignorant or not we all deserve hosting :)

- but, aren't there anymore sites that explains unlimited bandwidth?

Amish_Geek
03-15-2004, 04:27 PM
Oh, I'm definately not ignorant about unlimited bandwidth, and I understand the reasons why it doesnt exist.

I just don't like having to type out the explanation every time I want to tell someone about it. Maybe I'll just make up my own site.

The findmyhosting.com link above is decent, but it also talks about when it's ok to get unlimited bandwidth.

I want the link that talks about why there is no such thing as in "it does not exist, hosts that offer it are LYING"

On another forum I frequent, a guy just co-located a box to play with, and is offering small plans to help him cover the cost. He's giving "Unlimited" plans, and I just wanted to edumacate them :)

Trifolic
03-15-2004, 04:33 PM
Without getting all technical there is a very simple way of explaining it to the average joe or ignorant person for that matter..

Unlimited = Infinity, Infinity can NEVER be reached. Thus you cannot provide something that you do not have.

Amish_Geek
03-15-2004, 04:54 PM
When explaining this issue verbally to people (in person or on the phone) I like to use the following analogy.

Pretend that your internet connection is like a water hose, and the data being transferred is the water.

The amount of bandwidth determines the amount of water that can be transferred at once. So a 56k modem would be a drinking straw, a T1line would be a garden hose, and a T3 would be a firehose, and a OC3 would be a watermain.

The more bandwidth, the more that can be transferred. But you are still limited by the speed. Offering unlimited bandwidth is like the city saying you can have unlimited water use, when in reality, you are limited by the size of your pipes, so you cannot get unlimited water from your tap.


A similar anaolgy is used when comparing AMD and Intel processors:

Say that a program process is a bathtub full of water, and in order to "process" the program, you need to transfer the water into another tub. An Intel processor will use a cup, and go very very fast to transfer the water one cup at a time. While an AMD processor will use a bucket, and go at a slower pace. They both "process" or move the water from one tub to the other at about the same speed, meaning the start/finish at the same time. But the AMD processor had to work less because it did morr per "clock cycle". That is why an AMD 2.0ghz CPU is comparable to an Intel 3.0ghz CPU.

Xshare
03-15-2004, 05:04 PM
Web Hosting Companies that advertise "Unlimited Bandwidth" are giving out false information. In our long history, we have never seen any broadband company offering an internet connection as "Unlimited Megabytes Per Second." So, how could a Web Hosting Company, which normally doesn't even own its own access lines, advertise to customers that it will give them "UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH?" These Web Hosting Companies are lying to the public by placing ads on search engines and hosting directories to attract customers. Most of the time, high bandwidth sites on these "Unlimited" plans will be disconnected, and no refund given. Normally, the Web Hosting Company will say that the site violated its Acceptable Use Policy or Terms of Service. This is the reason why we set up this site, to educate people on the companies that scam individuals. The companies that bring bad feelings towards the word, HOSTING.

In Today's world, the average gigabyte of bandwidth ranges from $0.50 to $20.00. If a "high bandwidth" site (i.e. 200 Gigs per month) where to sign up for an "Unlimited Bandwidth" plan, it would end up costing the Web Hosting Company anywhere from $100.00 to $4000.00 to maintain these "high bandwidth" sites. Yet, most of these Web Hosting Companies only charge less than $20.00 per month. How can this be?

Whenever you visit a site promoting "Unlimited Bandwidth" as one of the account features, be sure to visit the Acceptable Use Policy, or the Terms of Service. Read the fine text about the so-called "Unlimited" disclaimer, you will be surprised!

We have noticed that many hosts are now using a theory that not all customers will use the same amounts of bandwidth, meaning that they will be able to provide customers that use bandwidth, the extra needed. That is true, but what happens if the host has many customers that seem to be using over the bandwidth averages?

That is text from the one and only unlimband. That was the site you are talking about. I am going to start one like it was soon, but need to wait till I get some money in order to start it off.