OH MY GOD!

Thank you to Socrdude for pointing this out. It seems EGE Host (www.egehost.com) has stolen my design!! This pisses me off so badlly to see my site BLATATLY ripped off!

This was JUST brought to my attention. I paid quite a bit of money for my design and to see if BLATATLY ripped off really PISSES ME OFF.

If you want, visit my site (http://www-hosting.net) and then "EGE Host" at http://www.egehost.com

1. If you compare these sites, you can notice that "EGE" is very ridged as to show someone removed "Web" and put "EGE" in, compare Ege with Hosting Network, see the difference

2. It seems antilamer didnt know how to steal my mouse overs, so he did the next best thing, he stole the side menu with the yellow arrow in tacked. and just changed the wording to match his

3. He did a great job of changing the body, well...he even kept my default font on there!!

4. More proof? Check out how "cheap" his $4.99! dan whatever is compared to my orginal work "Packages starting as low as $9.95"

I have notified egehosts upline as well as their backbone provider for copyright infringement regarding this blatant rip off.

Their backbone: Dialtone Internet

Socrdude = Me...
NP... People like this PISS ME OFF :angry:
:puke:
:uzi: antilamer
:flamethr:

Look at this your was not the only site they "used"

thread (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24470)

Its much more of www-hosting.net 's though... either way its wrong. :angry:

Haha, no wonder I thought the EGE in his top image looked funny. Turns out this is why. Hadn't seen your new site or I woulda let you know he had your design.

You will also notice his "g" went down to far, so he tried to draw his own bottom part of it, while still leaving part of the old g at the bottom.

He didn't even bother to remove the Web Hosting Network name from the meta tags. See this thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24546

Wow.. what a LOSER! I hope the moderators take action and ban his lame sorry a$$.

:angry:

funny is ... he is already banned (see his title). How come he can still post?

And he still call himself the most honest person! Wua ... and I am the richest person in the world then ...

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by dektong
funny is ... he is already banned (see his title). How come he can still post?

And he still call himself the most honest person! Wua ... and I am the richest person in the world then ...

cheers,
:beer:
Same thing I was wondering cuz when he was banned he had 28 post now he has 29 and he posted (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=177843#post177842) this

No, when I told alaskan wolf, he had already hit 29.

But how can we prevent someone like him to not signup with a different name or email?

Could just block his IP from the forum, or the whole site for that matter. He's from the Turkey area so it might be pretty easy to single him out.

It's quite amusing how somebody can so blatantly steal other peoples work. Egehost, you are sure making a rough start into the hosting industry :)

Now that you have stolen from my template, I can't go sell it until you take that down from your site. I don't want to bother getting a lawyer involved so can you please just take it down?

Oh he's banned now. No use asking him questions here.

Actually, although his label was 'banned member' he wasn't banned. I was going to give him a couple hours to remove the site, but this is so blatant, and I'm so disgusted by him, that I'm not givving him 2 hours.

Very much appreciated to everyone including Chicken, Rewdog, dektong, Chris, Amazon for all your support and makes me feel good inside how everyone has responded to this loser.

I have already notified Dialtone Internet, and their NOC responded within 1 hour and said they will be forwarding to a manager tomorrow.

I will let you know the outcome of the email I sent to them hopefully by tomorrow

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Very much appreciated to everyone including Chicken, Rewdog, dektong, Chris, Amazon for all your support and makes me feel good inside how everyone has responded to this loser.

I have already notified Dialtone Internet, and their NOC responded within 1 hour and said they will be forwarding to a manager tomorrow.

I will let you know the outcome of the email I sent to them hopefully by tomorrow

Some people...:(

Can't wait to see what Dialtone will do.

Steal from someone and then still had nerve to come back looking
for something else to steal? I mean, soliciting translation?:eek:
:angry: :angry: :angry:

Wolf didn't you just post the new site up a couple weeks ago?

Man, the balls on this guy.

People like that make me sick. :sickface:

Originally posted by iwannabe
Can't wait to see what Dialtone will do.

We recently acted on a complaint that was lodged with us, where we deemed two sites that were hosted by us by a (let's say...shady) client were too close a rip off of two of the complainant's sites. Our Terms or Service were even posted into the thread (in another forum) by someone.

We removed the site that was left (another was already elesehwere). Result - we got shunned by some posting to that thread.

Conclusion - Some people seem prepared to defend a rip/copy if the ripper/copier makes just enough changes to the original design. We need to act slower when such complaints are received in future.

Hopefully, this *wont* become a growing trend.

Cheers

Gary

This person wants to buy an NT hosting account from me. If he's gonna place stolen stuff on my servers i'd rather not accept his payment. What do you think?

Originally posted by ^Kyo
What do you think?

I think you should act slowly when listening to public complaints about stolen site designs. Nothing against developers in general, but when a host removed what it deems to be a copyright infringement and a host is knocked for that, be sure you have waited for a signed affadavit or a first born before taking down that site. :-)

Cheers

Gary

Come on Gary, this was so blatantly...

I know. I've finished my little rant. :-)

Cheers

Gary

Originally posted by Editor
Conclusion - Some people seem prepared to defend a rip/copy if the ripper/copier makes just enough changes to the original design. We need to act slower when such complaints are received in future.

Gary, it gets a bit more sticky when the site is only similar. A grey box (though not the exact same grey) in this corner, and images that look similar, but aren't. I'm not sure which thread you are talking about, but I get the feeling the site was heavily inspired, rather than directly copied (as was the case here).

Most of this is not a job for hosts (we have copyright laws and courts for this), but when ^Kyo asks what do we think... I think I wouldn't host this person. I can forsee possible problems with payment and chargebacks, warez, etc.

Originally posted by Chicken
I'm not sure which thread you are talking about, but I get the feeling the site was heavily inspired, rather than directly copied (as was the case here).

Another forum elsewhere.

Upon inspection of the complainant's site, and his own portfolio, and the client's site (and the layout of one of their previous sites), we had absolutely no doubt and acted accordingly, with refund for time unused.

A little disheartening that after our details (and ToS) were brought to light in the thread, and we did what we did, we were knocked for that.

Que Cera Cera. We'll maintain the same line in future. :-)

Cheers

Gary

Originally posted by ^Kyo
This person wants to buy an NT hosting account from me. If he's gonna place stolen stuff on my servers i'd rather not accept his payment. What do you think? You have to ask?

This is a JOKE!!

Look what i got from this jerk off:

1 email from him:

Sorry, we didn't made up that page. One of our employee's made it and we
didn't know that it is your web page.
We'll change it immediatly, but it can take a bit more than 24 hours. Again
I am sorry for this stuff.
Regards,
EgeHost System Admin

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Then what he sent from his "sales" account ccing to all my email accounts

Hi,

I don't know that it's your design. Our designer had done it and we bought it and i've paid $600 for this design. I'm really sorry about it. Now, i think somethings about this subject.

Look, I'll put your in our site. We don't have an english site. We'll put your site in our site into english site. For example, We'll write the First Page "CLICK TO GO TO ENGLISH SITE" then when a visitor click it, You'll get hits and customer.

If you accept my offer i'll be happy. Maybe we'll be partner in this case. Otherwise please let me know what can i do then?

I wait your response and sorry for my little english...

EgeHost,

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
His First email he sent that was sent to his NOC and him regarding the copyright

it's my own copy. A guy did it for me with money. I gave $600 for this
design. i will never remove it. I'm from Turkey and i will not have foreign
customers. Maybe you have stolen it from him. I can't know it. I'm sorry
about it. I didn't I've paid $600 for this.

He wasted his money if he paid cuz that rip is totally not worth any money. It's horrible.

He didnt waste anything, his a complete liar as everyone here already knows

He told me after i asked that (well i forced him to tell me) he sent all those emails himself, his a one man show

i understand that you would like to kick his a$$ right now and i would too if he takes my site. but i will not go and generalize like that. maybe you didnt mean it like that but when you said "hes a one man show" that just made it seam like all one man shows are bad and they just stand in the way of everyone. i know of lots of one man shows that do a better job then those big guys

one_web, don't even TRY to take this damn topic out of context.

This has nothing to do with hosts that are "one man shows" so keep it on topic.

The topic, EGEHOST BLATANTLY stealing my design.

mg u dont have to get mad. i was just telling you what it seemed like you said. now at all time i have been behind this problem of yours if you check all the threads that have to do with it i have something posted in each one. i first found out about netXL then about you so i made sure to link all threads together so people may see what was going on. but no u just dont care about it and now you have turn this all into a "me, my, myself" thingand not think of nothing else. as i said b4 i know your mad and i would be too but i would not go around cuzin everone in my way...

Sorry One_Web, not a good weekend so far.

Soon to come...the full chat with this jerk on ICQ...trying to plead to death to keep my design!! HAHAHA

Lol, I can't wait to see this. :D

Aloha

man that sucks flat out sucks !!!!!
a few thoughts
looks like they resell RAQ's through rackshack or at least they stoll those pics to ;)
anyway waht happens if you get ahold of headsurfer and point out what is going on so he can protect himself ???
maybe he will cut them form the RAQ end ??
most people do not want to associtate with people that do this kind of stuff
Rackshack is doing a good job of getting better and better so he may be of help if not
the old thing my brother says (he is a lawyer) touch everyone down the line to who provides the servers etc....
at least a nice letter that describes the situation to those might get them to pull out
wish you luck ;)

Whada Know!! His website has mysteriously changed within minutes!!

Something I am really wondering:
What is PUCKEN? And what is MASSHOLE?
LOL

<EgeHost> i can't use paypal. paypal doesn't accept Turkey

hehe. They accept any country. ;)

and the funny thing about his site.. he offers web design services.
http://www.egehost.com/services-design.html
I wonder if he steals those too ;)

Hehe

now stop posting his site URL or he will get mass hits :D:D

-Pie

hehe, Walter, I had to "change the names" of those words, figure in your mind what they rhyme with :)

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Whada Know!! His website has mysteriously changed within minutes!!
I demand an official announcement, in order to determine from whom he got his webdesign this time :D

:rolleyes:

Alexander

OMG OMG OMG LOOK WHAT HE DID NOW.

http://www.egehost.com

http://www.webdefinity.com/portfolio.html

he took another site that he didnt pay for...

when will he stop

Well, I read your conversation on ICQ and (while I can understand that you are upset) it does not seem to be very professional to shout at him all the time (-> caps). Further I think some comments were not really necessary. Such as

<PepsiCoke> YOUR A NOTHING COMPANY
<PepsiCoke> WYYOU KNOW MASS HHOLE, YOUR VERY DUMB.
<PepsiCoke> YOUR A BIG COMPANY? SHHAHAHAHAHA WHAT 10 ACCOUNTS?
<PepsiCoke> NO I WILL NOT PUCKEN LISTEM TN TO MEYOU. YOU ARE STUPID, THATS ALL I NEED TO KNOW.
<PepsiCoke> IFLIKE I SIAAID, IF YOUR WERE SMART (WHCICH YOU ARE NOT)

Even if you are upset such a conversation should not be the way to go. It just brings you down almost at the same level of attitude of the "bad-boy". Further I think the court threats were an overreaction. This is probably something to threat an american, but courts are by far not such a usual thing in the life of an european.

I do not want to excuse stealing a webdesign, but the ICQ conversation looks rather like one from 2 14 year old boys. Sorry.

Alexander

I still don't understand...blood from a turnip...? Nevermind... :-)

If you are on his "Script Services" page and run your mouse over the Home link, I think you'll discover the tool of the trade.

Cheers

Gary

Originally posted by one_web
OMG OMG OMG LOOK WHAT HE DID NOW.

http://www.egehost.com

http://www.webdefinity.com/portfolio.html

he took another site that he didnt pay for...

when will he stop
Well, this time it seem he took a site which was created for him, but he did not pay for it .... or whatever :).

Alexander

and look he is stealing web definity's bandwidth look at the source code for his "new" site.. i can image what they will say when they see this they design the site for him he doesnt pay for it and then he uses it

Originally posted by one_web
and look he is stealing web definity's bandwidth look at the source code for his "new" site
True, ouch :rolleyes:

Alexander

Wrong button .... sorry :)

Check out http://www.webdefinity.com/portfolio.html

What I don't understand is why egehost can't simply use one of hundreds of free templates floating around on the net? Why go through all the trouble of stealing a site when he'll get bad publicity from it?

I actually feel sorry for this loser.:bawling:

Thanks for the compliment Alex, the conversation with him was in my sense, nothing serious. Its Sunday, I have nothing else better to do then to chat with a thief. Therefore, I was more or less playing along with his emails he had sent to me before the chat started.

Do I normally "chat" with companies not like this thief? hell no. Why don't you ask companies like Intelligent Hosting, HostRocket, Ventures Online.

I pride myself on my company that I grew over 5 years ago which has thousands of satisfied customers.

What I do not put up with is liars and cheats such as this person.

His a thief and I am going to treat him like one, no matter what anyone thinks. Nor do I care what you think of the chat, I could have easily not posted the chat for everyone's view, but I felt everyone should see how this person operates


Originally posted by zoid
Well, I read your conversation on ICQ and (while I can understand that you are upset) it does not seem to be very professional to shout at him all the time (-> caps). Further I think some comments were not really necessary.

<PepsiCoke> YOUR A NOTHING COMPANY
<PepsiCoke> WYYOU KNOW MASS HHOLE, YOUR VERY DUMB.
<PepsiCoke> YOUR A BIG COMPANY? SHHAHAHAHAHA WHAT 10 ACCOUNTS?
<PepsiCoke> NO I WILL NOT PUCKEN LISTEM TN TO MEYOU. YOU ARE STUPID, THATS ALL I NEED TO KNOW.
<PepsiCoke> IFLIKE I SIAAID, IF YOUR WERE SMART (WHCICH YOU ARE NOT)

Even if you are upset such a conversation should not be the way to go. It just brings you down almost at the same level of attitude of the "bad-boy". Further I think the court threats were an overreaction. This is probably something to threat an american, but courts are by far not such a usual thing in the life of an european.

I do not want to excuse stealing a webdesign, but the ICQ conversation looks rather like one from 2 14 year old boys. Sorry.

Alexander

Originally posted by armstrong
What I don't understand is why egehost can't simply use one of hundreds of free templates floating around on the net? Why go through all the trouble of stealing a site when he'll get bad publicity from it?
I agree, I neither understand that.

I actually feel sorry for this loser.:bawling:
Sorry, but the "loser" is also not necessary (see my posting above).

Alexander

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Thanks for the compliment Alex
Sorry AlaskanWolf (oh how I do not like nicknames :D), dont get me wrong, I do not excuse stealing webdesign, I just do not want to be part of a lynch commando :).

Nor do I care what you think of the chat, I could have easily not posted the chat for everyones view, but I felt everyone should see how this person operates
Well, you might not care what I think, however it might be the same for me. Why should I care whether someone steals your design? I do not agree with stealing a design (as I often mentioned), but in this conversation your acting is also not the kindest one (as far as it concerns "operating").

Alexander

Zoid

Let me or someone else steal your design and then try become your partner because you found out about me. See how you will feel when you spent thousands of dollars on a design and see someone steal it within minutes.

You might not care about anyone else but yourself, but as you can see, quite a few people here make their living off web hosting, and maybe your to young you understand that.

Stealing is stealing and if you think thats ok, i think you better rethink your perspectives

Why call him dumb? maybe because he is very dumb to try steal someones website.

I will treat any thief like the they are. plain and simple. You do the crime, you do the time

Zoid, as much as you want to piss all over me for how i spoke with this looser (and yes he is one) I am not the one to blame here. I found out he stole my site, I acted on it, he contacted me with his stupid request and i blew up, plain and simple

Should I say sorry to him OR anyone else? Heck NO, not when he continued to lie to me and make me even more mad when he wanted to keep my design!

Originally posted by armstrong
Check out http://www.webdefinity.com/portfolio.html

What I don't understand is why egehost can't simply use one of hundreds of free templates floating around on the net? Why go through all the trouble of stealing a site when he'll get bad publicity from it?

I actually feel sorry for this loser.:bawling:

Maybe he doesn't know how to modify simple HTML code?
Like...
He doesn't know how to download free templates.
He doesn't know how to put contents into templates.

Or, perhaps he had urgency to remove the AlaskanWolf's site
immediately and only thing that he had was another site design
that he didn't pay:eek:

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Let me or someone else steal your design and then try become your partner because you found out about me.

See how you will feel when you spent thousands of dollars on a design and see someone steal it within minutes.
Please go up and read my postings again. I stopped counting, how often I said I do not agree with stealing a website's design.

You might not care about anyone else but yourself, but as you can see, quite a few people here make their living off web hosting, and maybe your to young you understand that.

Stealing is stealing and if you think thats ok, i think you better rethink your perspectives
Now you make me upset! You started telling me "that you do not care what I think". You cant know my age, and actually it also does not matter how old one is. Dont try to play the same game with as with "antilamer". I did not say, what he has done is ok. I just said, that your conversation was not too professional. If you cant take critic, then dont post in a forum, but rather proclaim yourself as second appearance of Jesus. OK?

Alexander

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Zoid, as much as you want to piss all over me for how i spoke with this looser (and yes he is one) I am not the one to blame here. I found out he stole my site, I acted on it, he contacted me with his stupid request and i blew up, plain and simple
[no comment] - I dont know what you think, what I want to do.

Should I say sorry to him OR anyone else? Heck NO, not when he continued to lie to me and make me even more mad when he wanted to keep my design!
Did I say you shall say sorry? No, all I meant was that the way to talked to him was not the kindest one. I can tell one he is an a****** also in another way. Attacks about the age are not very kind nor very professional (even in such a case).

Alexander

HAHAHAHAHA ROFLOL!!

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
HAHAHAHAHA ROFLOL!!
Shall I take this as positive or as negative statement?

Alexander

Like i said Ziod, as much as you want to criticize me for my posts, your way wrong. I didn't do anything wrong, nor will I take your comments to a grain of salt.

When you deal with a thief, Professionalism gets thrown out the window.

Um.. Read the Web Definity portfolio.

Company: Ege Host

Address: http://www.webdefinity.com/egehost

Details: This site was designed for Egehost, a web hosting company, which never opened. This design is now for sale! If you are interested and want more details, please e-mail us.


I think webdefinity made that for him.... and he didn't pay for it. Am I missing something?

Originally posted by AlaskanWolf
Like i said Ziod, as much as you want to criticize me for my posts, your way wrong. I didn't do anything wrong, nor will I take your comments to a grain of salt.
Its your opinion to think that I am wrong. Once again, I do not think stealing a design is ok, but IMHO this conversation was rather childish (which is certainly also just my opinion :) ).

When you deal with a thief, Professionalism gets thrown out the window.
Either I do not talk to him or I try to stay "professional". Everything else brings me to his level.

Alexander

No part may be reproduced copied or sold without prior
written permission of the copyright holder.

he steals the design but keeps that part on it. smart

Thanks to Dogma for telling me this....

Yes this was designed for him, but somehow never paid, and well I think he finally got smart and took the images. But at first we got the site to comedown and now it looks to e back up...Well I will not tolerate this, and it is going to come down one way or the other

Originally posted by rewdog
I think webdefinity made that for him.... and he didn't pay for it. Am I missing something?
Yep, just told them...Ege is going down...again

Sent a formal copyright notification to Dialtone Internet as well ComputerGuy, their NOC will respond pretty promptly but nothing will be done until tomorrow when management is in

Thank you all for telling me this, but I am going to send them one a well, because this is just way out of proportion

And I am going o find a way to make it where you can not leech a site off again

Since all images are full URLs, can you please replace the images with various porn pictures? Doesn't really matter if there's a design? Anyway... it seems www-hosting's leg of this is over and we can CG can start a new thread with his dealings...