Hi all,

With all the talk in here of how bad ***** are, I just wanted to double check that a company I'm interested in are not in some way connected with them.

The company is called EzNetIdeas.com and I'm suspicious because:
a) Their plan info acts and looks identical - compare http://www.eznetideas.com/hosting/shared/nt.asp with http://www.*****s.com/?zone=products/shared_nt_hosting

b) Whois searches throw up some similar things

c)Their NOC info matches very well - compare http://www.*****s.com/?zone=corporate/tour with http://www.eznetideas.com/corporate_info/data_centers.asp

Well? What do you think??

Best Regards,
Cam

you might be right ... I do a traceroute (http://visualroute.visualware.com) and see that their "network" is in Bedford, TX (where *****) is ... now, the Network Owner is 'CIHS' (well... guess what that is).

Looking at whois for their domains show that they are using:
NS2.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.162.106
NS.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.160.10

definitely *****'s anonymous name servers

Checking IP block on 66.34.114.95:

***** (NETBLK-*****4)
1851 Central Drive Suite 110
Bedford, TX 76021
US

Netname: *****4
Netblock: 66.34.0.0 - 66.34.255.255
Maintainer: CIHS


Definitely *****'s reseller!

cheers,
:beer:

Propagation.net is owned by the fools at *****. The only thing they propagate is customers' credit cards and lies, a lot of lies. Well, to start with they offer unlimited bandwidth and then send you an email once you reach 12 GB that you will be billed for anything above 20 GB. Oh, don't even get me started....

Originally posted by dektong

Definitely *****'s reseller!

If this is the case, would you avoid them because of the link, or would you go for it because they're a reseller?

Regards,
Cam

What I was trying to tell you above, if I have to sum it up in word then the word would be SUCK - they suck! I have hosted with *****. Let's see... if someone is a reseller of a host that sucks, could they be any better - you be the judge, just ask yourself that question. I am sure you know the answer. The reseller might have good intentions but if the reseller has any knowledge of the hosting industry then he would not be working with *****.

Originally posted by webmancam
If this is the case, would you avoid them because of the link, or would you go for it because they're a reseller?

Because of the link ... I usually am OK about reseller, except some resellers just want to go into this web host biz easily (no need to put a lot of investment/time and hope to rely on other people for support) and it's downgradding the quality of this web host biz ...

cheers,
:beer:

Ok this is for anyone that has something bad about *****. When was the last time you really experienced problems? haji, you said they emailed you at 12 gig's of data transfer and told you that you would have to pay more if you went over? Did you not read the terms of service? In the terms of service it tells you this EXACT same thing. I heared alot of people complain about *****, but I have never had a problem with them. I would like to know if peoples problems they had with ***** were from a long time ago, recent, or just problems you heared other people talk about so even though you have never tried them you try and stear everyone away from them.

Like, last month. I still have one site with them. I have hosted with them for about 2 years. They are just unbelievable.

When was the last time you really experienced problems?

No - are you a smartass? Why don't you go to *****.com and see, all of their plans offer unlimited bandwidth. What the heck you need the contract for when the plans say "unlimited". Even if there is something else in the contract, that is unethical to put blatantly on the plan features that they offer unlimited bandwidth on all plans. You can also make up a contract anytime and post it on the web.

you said they emailed you at 12 gig's of data transfer and told you that you would have to pay more if you went over? Did you not read the terms of service?

So? If you never had problems, just stay there. Make sure you at least check your credit card statements.

I heared alot of people complain about *****, but I have never had a problem with them.

Why? What's in it for me? You are either a nutcase or you are Chis Faulkner.

so even though you have never tried them you try and stear everyone away from them

What happen to the days where everyone was praising *****?

Originally posted by haji
I have hosted with them for about 2 years. They are just unbelievable.

They're that bad yet you've been a customer for 2 years?? Hmm. . .

Abuse of Unlimited Traffic

*****'s customers are privileged to be offered unlimited traffic for their web sites. The intention of ***** is to provide a large space to serve web documents, not an off site storage area for electronic files. All (90%) of your web pages (html) must be 'linked' with files (.GIF, .JPEG, etc.) stored on *****'s server. Web sites that are found to contain either/or no html documents, a large number of unlinked files are subject to warning, suspension or cancellation at the discretion of ***** management. Any customer who violates *****'s Policies in abusing either space/site transfer will be notified and given 2 days to remedy the problem. If the problem is not resolved within the allotted period, the client will be billed for the overages.

...

For those that do not qualify for the unlimited service, traffic will go unmonitored until you reach 20 GB per month. Thereafter, normal data transfer cost of $20.00/1GB/month will be billed to your account. If you want to pre-pay for bandwidth overages, you will be billed $10.00/1GB/month.

You will receive a notice on Tuesday morning detailing your bandwidth usage.

Originally posted by one_web
Thereafter, normal data transfer cost of $20.00/1GB/month will be billed to your account. If you want to pre-pay for bandwidth overages, you will be billed $10.00/1GB/month.
Ouch! That really, really sucks. That is expensive!! $$$$

Ya. I got a good price initially. Then they quietly increased my price but I was still thinking that if bandwidth is not something I have to worry about it is ok. Besides, moving a site is a pain (you know?). But I had 3 sites and have moved them out, whenever I have had time. Also, to be frank in the beginning I knew that they were a reseller themselves and I was willing to give them another chance while they were setting up their own network. Later on I realized that they just keep lying about everything.

Listen, I don't care - I am just telling you what I know. You can take it as an advice or just make your decisions and if you do any research, you will find that I am just one of thousands of people who have complained about them. Just do a search on the web, go to forums... I am not getting paid for this so, it does not matter to me. But it certainly gives me a good feeling that if I can keep anyone from signing with them because of the problems I have experienced.

They're that bad yet you've been a customer for 2 years?? Hmm. . .

One_web,

I am not sure if you are with *****, I don't know what the problem with you is. It is ridiculous. Only ***** can come up with wordings like that. I mean, just read it - first it says "unlimited service" and then "you will be charged". The word unlimited is redundant and it is totally misleading especially when they put on their plan comparison table, without any reference to contract.

Also, none of those conditions apply to my site as (not an off site storage area for electronic files... etc.,). So, it is all bogus. The point is that we all know now that bandwidth costs money. Companies like ***** want to sign-up customers with whatever means they can. They know that a majority of people do not use 20 GB. But if someone uses then they will screw with them. That is their business plan.

However, that is not the only issue with them, they have billed multiple times, their customer service is horrible and the list goes on.

I just clicked on your site to see what it is about - you are running a personal site. No wonder, you do not notice any issues like downtime, etc., They are probably pretty good for a small site like that with a few pages.


For those that do not qualify for the unlimited service, traffic will go unmonitored until you reach 20 GB per month.

The last company i will be with is *****. What im trying to show redbrad0 is how they say it is unlimited but then they charge you. the TOS says that if you DO NOT signup for an unlimited BW plan then you have to pay not like he says that the TOS says you have to pay anyways...

I wouldnt host with a reseller either. The resellers get toasted by ***** all the time. ***** changes prices over night, changes services, and doesnt even tell their resellers...I know this for a fact! One day your customers get Realaudio support for free, you tell your customers its free, then when you go to set up an accout there is all of a sudden a fee!

I love the way people steal sites,

http://www.eznetideas.com/ (stolen)
http://livehost.com/ (original)

Originally posted by one_web
I love the way people steal sites,

http://www.eznetideas.com/ (stolen)
http://livehost.com/ (original)

I knew I had seen that design (specially the top right picture) somewhere before, just couldn't remember where...

Originally posted by one_web
I love the way people steal sites,

http://www.eznetideas.com/ (stolen)
http://livehost.com/ (original)

Chop Shop Webhosting. :rolleyes:

they are a reseller becuase they are using hostingsupport.com, which belongs to *****

Is CWIHOSTING.COM also *****?

No, that's a different company with their own issues. You can do a search in this forum and find out more about them.

When was the last time you really experienced problems?

Um, well, I just had a phone call Monday morning from a gentleman from Kentucky who's a small reseller for *****, and had just been through 2 hours of downtime on Sunday... just the latest of a string of problems with his sites.

He wouldn't have called me seeking information on a new host if ***** was doing such a great job. :eek:

;) Bailey

yes, eznetideas is a ***** customer.. i just checked their ticket system.. they do belong to ci.. sux



Originally posted by webmancam
Hi all,

With all the talk in here of how bad ***** are, I just wanted to double check that a company I'm interested in are not in some way connected with them.

The company is called EzNetIdeas.com and I'm suspicious because:
a) Their plan info acts and looks identical - compare http://www.eznetideas.com/hosting/shared/nt.asp with http://www.*****s.com/?zone=products/shared_nt_hosting

b) Whois searches throw up some similar things

c)Their NOC info matches very well - compare http://www.*****s.com/?zone=corporate/tour with http://www.eznetideas.com/corporate_info/data_centers.asp

Well? What do you think??

Best Regards,
Cam

I have recently broke away from ***** and they are still up to the same tricks mentioned here. When I first signed up there were many problems with the set-up. They registered a my domain with a letter missing and it took almost two weeks before we finally got that straight.

I had paid them $150 for one domain and the 75 megs of space that I have used since I have been with them. ( I should add I set up a account just for this domain with enough money to cover a years worth of hosting) After that first month and $150 I received a notice from my bank that the account was over drawn. ***** had billed me for another $80 for who knows what, 15 dollars to change the domain name that they screwed up, and another $5 for who knows what again. This put my account in to overdraft and bounced to a few other checks. All in all the whole four months of being with them has cost me roughly $4-500.


I will say that they did send me the $80 dollars back and the bank said they would split the difference with ***** on the overdraft charges, but ***** said they weren't going to do it.


My 2 cents,

John

With all the disturbance this company has caused, why do they still exist?

***** is expensive... I emailed them once to ask about their service the response wasn't nice..

I'm a customer at ***** since 1999 never had problem well just the big story in January 2000. Otherwise no problems.

some people saying ***** is sh*t? The one saying that we're never customers of *****.


To Synthetic: why do they keep existing? I just say they make enough CASH to pay for their errors. In the 2 past years they have improved alot. Service is better and instantly. you need something to be changed they do it without charging!


Well ***** is a big subject for everyone. they maybe lost 20000+ clients but gained 85000+ other...

peace all