Ladies and Gentleman,

Trying to get a handle on a few things....If I have a dedicated server co-located at another company...and I want to know if anyone else is on that box (if it's really dedicated to me) Can I run an address scan on on the ip address or is there another way of telling whether or not I'm the only one on the box?
Is there anyway of telling?

I'm using IPNetMonitor on a Mac or Visual Route on the PC.

If it is a dedicated server, you should definatly have telnet access. You can telnet into the system and have a look around. Or even use the find command and search for index.html .

That search should bring back only the index.html to do with your sites, or system utils.

Would I need to have telnet service for anything else?
There's a trust built up between client and host and I'd hate for it too look like I'm infringing on that trust...I mean the way I look at it a host has kinda got you by the shorthairs...I'd hate to piss them off.

Yes of course, Telnet is used daily by many people. To install programs, edit text files, some people even program there html through an editor like vi or pico (Linux editor programs).

There is nothing wrong with going into a machine that you pay money for, and have rights too, while you are paying for it.

If your not sure on how to use telnet I would get a friend that you know and trust to go in there and take a look around. The file structure can get complicated if you don't know what things are.

Thanks Jason....yeah, we've been on what is called 2nd level where we are on a box with 5 other sites and we will soon be moved to dedicated...of course the price is going up....How can I find out if I'm getting the value for my dollar?
We're getting
1 MB dedicated pipe
Dedicated server
Forum
and CF Server License

And he's about what looks like just two or three hops off the backbone...great personal service..good relationship. The site has about 15-20 transactions a day....

What's fair market value for something like that?

Different hosts have different prices, I'm sure you could e-mail a number of hosts on this board and they would give you some prices for you to compair.

Telnet :confused:

What's that :confused:

That must be from the days of the dinosaurs :D

Dylan,

Help me out with that, all I know is ftp access.

If not Telnet than how can I tell if my site is dedicated?

My guess is that Dylan is saying that most people use ssh now days, not telnet. telnet sends all data and passwords in human readable text (if someone can snag the packets off the network). ssh is encrypted.

Frank

If not Telnet than how can I tell if my site is dedicated?
Dedicated site or server? If you were told you had root access, then you're on a dedicated server bud. If you're even colocating a box, and its yours, you sure as hell have root access, and colocation for a server is definitely dedicated. If you mean speedwise, ping your server from different networks and try to access other sites from your server.

You're not getting the most out of the server if you don't know how to remotely operate it. If you're running a UNIX-based box, read up on the operating system because Telnet/SSH allows you to access the box from anywhere you have an internet connection (provided ports 22/23 are not blocked) to make vital changes to your server.

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