hi guys..i'm clearly a newbie here and i've been searching for information about how does webhost work but can't seem to find any that will explain the whole thing..all i found was list of webhosts..till i found this website with the hope someone will help me..:)

i have a simple question for you guys..

i have a ADSL connection with 1.MB/348KB download/upload..so if i was to start a hosting business, what is bandwith rate per month?

thanks..

You said 384KB.. I assume you mean 384kb, kilobits per second. If so, maximum monthly bandwidth is 119.232GB

The main reason you shouldn't use any home line is because the company may leave you without service for days at a time. Your customers will complain and there's nothing you can do.

I strongly recommend a reseller account to get you started - there's a forum on this site for reselling services.

*dont* even attempt it is about the best advice anyone will give you :D

it's probably against the terms of your DSL contract, which means your customers and you will get cutoff if they notice

348kbs upload - everyone will be contantly complaining that their site aare slow, their email is slow - you're just opening a whole range of problmes that will come back and bite you.

there is a reason all the successful hosting compnaies put their kit in a professional datacentre

and if you need to ask "how does a web host work" then you aren't in a position to run one :p maybe start with a reseller account from a reputable host and work up from there ...

Originally posted by saminuske
You said 384KB.. I assume you mean 384kb, kilobits per second. If so, maximum monthly bandwidth is 119.232GB

The main reason you shouldn't use any home line is because the company may leave you without service for days at a time. Your customers will complain and there's nothing you can do.

I strongly recommend a reseller account to get you started - there's a forum on this site for reselling services.

can you explain to me what is actually a reseller..and if i can't use a ADSL line..what kindof line should i use?

ok...if i insist to start a new webhosting company, is there any step by step guidance article that i can follow..?

thanks

A reseller account is an account which you purchase from another webhosting company. This package is specifcally aimed at providing a start-up webhosting service with enough resources and bandwidth to get a nice start on their own little business.

As everyone else noted, ADSL lines are not the way to go. I would suggest at least a T1 line. If you want to try and get a T1 line to your house, try Speakeasy, but I would suggest a reseller account because of the uptime guarentee and service/support level.

I'd definitely suggest starting out with a reseller account with a Web host who you feel will give you good support and be helpful in answering your questions.

You'll be prone to problems and issues if you try to run it from your local DSL as explained by others in this thread. That's the last thing you need to deal with when you are just getting started.

thanks saminuske,othellotech, Jasio..

so what if i still insist on using my ADSL line, Redhat 9 and apache web server to create a very small hosting service..for 2/3 company..what should i do? which brings me to 3 more questions..

1. how actually does the sistem works? for example if a customer signed up with me for hosting, what should i do next? how does the profesionals do it? (IMHO: they would create a subdomain for them..correct me if my opinion is wrong)

2. each time i try to register a domain name, they would search wether the name exists or not..where actually do they search? is there a enormous database for that??

3. is there any step by step guide to being a small webhost? (assuming that i insist of using my ASDL line and insisting to setup just a really2 small webhost service)

i hope you guys could understand my words..and answer it. no offence but sometimes when i ask something lik this they always reply with things such as "..u need more searching..", "..create a reseller account..", "..you aren't in a position to run one.."...if this is all the answeer i get, surely i won't be able to learn anythig..

pls..thanks

nazar

1. you shoudl probably sign up for some hosting with other companies and see what you get :)

2. get hold of dns&bind from amazon and use google to find out how the whois sytsm and dns works

3. there is no step by step guide that i'm aware of

the "threads" how do ui start a host, how do i run a host on my adsl line etc pop up every few days - the serach facility above will give you access to the previous examples.

*learning* on the fly, especially with you hosting *companies* even 2 or 3 is not the way to go, try hosting your own personal site first - you do that already on your adsl line ?

Originally posted by nazar
no offence but sometimes when i ask something lik this they always reply with things such as "..u need more searching..", "..create a reseller account..", "..you aren't in a position to run one.."...if this is all the answeer i get, surely i won't be able to learn anythig..

Before reading the below, keep in mind that I say this trying to help you out.

You're not ready.

The above quotes are excellent advice - by ignoring it it seems like you've already got your mind set. I'd advise that if you're here asking, keep your mind open to the input that's being given. It's being given for a reason.

Learning is not a product, it's not something that we can spoon feed anybody. It's a process - a continual one. You need to research, and be prepared to do some hard work. This is no get-rich-quick type of thing. There's no list that anyone here will ever be able to give you that you can follow to become your own host. The only list that you should follow is one of your own making.

Spend some time here, and just read some of the threads that get posted. I'd say in a months time you'll have read enough that you'll have some more specific ideas/concepts to consider. Ask specific questions, and participate in one of the most helpful communities on the internet.

With time, comes the knowledge you'll need to really get a start on this - to really be ready. Don't jump headfirst into the shallow end of the pool - wade in ;)

Once you've done all that, you'll be ready to begin. I hope that you stick around and stay in our community, and work to become a host like you want.

Do you people ever READ these forums? Or just post and follow up on your own threads? The question has not only be answered numerous times, but the reasons you shouldn't DO IT have also been listed.

No offense, but you don't sound like you should be running a business. For one, no professional would use their DSL connection - everyone and their brother has DSL or cable now, why would they pay an uneducated amateur like you to host their site when they could just do it themselves? People pay for hosting so someone who KNOWS WHAT THE F THEY'RE DOING will make sure their site is up.

You can't promise that with DSL. You can't promise that if you have to ask a simple bandwidth question. You have no idea what you're doing ... all you're going to do is become another crappy hosting company that OUR customers will complain about when they switch to us from you.

Also ... it's SYSTEM, not "sistem". And I don't believe it was a typo either.

Very eloquently put Indy :)

they always reply with things such as "..u need more searching..", "..create a reseller account..", "..you aren't in a position to run one.."...if this is all the answeer i get, surely i won't be able to learn anythig..
So you are basing your learning on what others tell you here? WebHostingTalk isn't a university. It's a community to help expand your knowledge. A lot of your knowledge has to come from your own initiative.

Creating a reseller account is excellent advice. That is the best advice for someone lacking the knowledge such as yourself. There is NOTHING wrong with a reseller account. Sure we all want to think big and get dedicated machines and run them ourselves, but that comes in time. You can make a lot of money on a reseller account, and at the same time learn.

Here's a good book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764547976/qid=1077287601//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i9_xgl14/104-4875386-6855108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) to get you started.

Like othellotech said, try hosting your own personal site first using your adsl line. While setting it up I'm sure you'll have specific questions to ask the community. Then you'll know what it is all about.

Great post thedavid.

thanks guys, for the advice...i'll try my best to learn more then. :)

thanks so much..
p/s: Indy4, sorry for that spelling, actually that is the way system is spelled in my country..sorry

ok actually i hosted my own website on my office pc..but i didn't register any domain name..i just registered my domain name using a free url redirection (redirect to my office fix IP).

ok the situation is like this, my pc is connected to the internet through and access point and a router..the FIX IP for my office is pointed to the router actually..but i redirect the router to point to my pc which is 192.168.0.108...recently i installed FileZilla Server on my pc.. i created a user name and password..

using this url i can acces my files..
ftp://username:password@192.168.0.108/
but when i use this url, it didn't work..
ftp://username:password@2XX.XX.XX.XX4/

is it possible for me to access my pc using ftp this way or is it just impossible cause of the unregistered IP, router, access point and all that?

thanks...

Originally posted by nazar
thanks guys, for the advice...i'll try my best to learn more then. :)

thanks so much..
p/s: Indy4, sorry for that spelling, actually that is the way system is spelled in my country..sorry

ok actually i hosted my own website on my office pc..but i didn't register any domain name..i just registered my domain name using a free url redirection (redirect to my office fix IP).

ok the situation is like this, my pc is connected to the internet through and access point and a router..the FIX IP for my office is pointed to the router actually..but i redirect the router to point to my pc which is 192.168.0.108...recently i installed FileZilla Server on my pc.. i created a user name and password..

using this url i can acces my files..

but when i use this url, it didn't work..


is it possible for me to access my pc using ftp this way or is it just impossible cause of the unregistered IP, router, access point and all that?

thanks...

This would actually be a problem with the router not knowing that you have a service running on the FTP port on your computer. you will need to have this setup on the router / gateway if you would like to have this setup. The reason why you are able to access the files using the first link is because you are not going to the internet which in return means you are not going through your internet gateway / router. the first link you are connectiing to.

I strongly agree with everyone that has posted in this thread that it is not really a good idea for you to run a hosting company off your ADSL Line customers tend to find it very unprofessional and un-reliable you may be able to get customers to sign up but the second you get down time they will leave you or they will not be worth your time but again you might just get those people that have money to throw away and dont care about their website and what type of connection its on.

Thanks
- James

is it possible for me to access my pc using ftp this way or is it just impossible cause of the unregistered IP, router, access point and all that?

souns like you dont have port forwarding setup on your router to apss the ftp traffic onto the machine.

the fixed ip is *definately* that for your machine not the router ?

one thing to check if your adsl supplier even allows this sort of thing ...

try a traceroute to your fixed ip and check you can see it, and a ping to see if it responds

bear in mind the external fixed ip method *probably* wont work inside your network, so you shoudl try it from outside, internally the machine has the 192.168 address

it sounds more like you dont have a clue what you are doing whatsoever.

I can see you are going to be a smash in the web hosting industry.