My question here is what os do you think is going to take RedHat's spot in the webhosting industry? I have seen many here post that fedora isn't that great and RHEL is pretty buggy. Do you think RedHat can pull it together if not who will most of us be using in the future?


I thought and was hoping possibly S.u.S.e especially since it has the ease of rpm's and is backed by a big company like Novell now.


Let the debate begin:

Redhat.

I think Redhat is here to stay, but you will start to see more BSD boxes sprouting up.

Slackware seems to be the king when it comes to speed

I'm thinking about switching to SuSe or FreeBSD. I think I'll probably go with FreeBSD.

Also has anyone used plesk/cpanel on suse or trustix? If so how does it perform? How does cpanel/plesk perform on freebsd?

And I have a huge question. Does anyone know of a site/person that compared RedHat/Suse/FreeBSD/Trustix on performance (a.k.a. benchmarking)?

Red Hat will probably keep a foot in the web hosting industry. But I also think suse is goin to make some nice strides. I have tried it on my pc and it's the only linux that works for me. Very smooth and stable, very graphical and easy to use. It also has YaST (yet another setup tool) which I think can also handle cpanel like functions. (I may be wrong on this).

Either way, it a good linux and novell is backing it now.

Originally posted by TheDean
Slackware seems to be the king when it comes to speed

Is there anybody who can explain to me why do people say slackware = fast?

I thought linux was linux :0

I mean, I have red hat 9.0 boxes that have been stripped down to only needing, and running whats needed, as well as a stripped down kernel that only has whats needed compiled in....

0.7mb kernel :P

Does this mean that if i did the same thing on a slackware box, it'd be faster? Why?

I personally love Debian. I think people will continue to use Fedora for awhile though.

Originally posted by Detroit Red
Is there anybody who can explain to me why do people say slackware = fast?

I thought linux was linux :0

I mean, I have red hat 9.0 boxes that have been stripped down to only needing, and running whats needed, as well as a stripped down kernel that only has whats needed compiled in....

0.7mb kernel :P

Does this mean that if i did the same thing on a slackware box, it'd be faster? Why?

The same reason they say FreeBSD is the most secure.

FreeBSD by far!!!!

Why?


Virtual memory and filesystem buffer cache This tunes the amount of memory used for programs and the disk cache. That result in programs receiving excellent memory management and high performance disk access. This why FreeBSD provides better management for HIGH resorcefull programs. And makes a nice platform for companies in the hosting business.

Compatibility modules enable programs for other operating systems to run on FreeBSD, including programs for Linux, SCO, NetBSD, and BSDI.

Kernel Queues allow programs to respond more efficiently to a variety of asynchronous events including file and socket IO, improving application and system performance and steady loads once again.

Accept Filters allow connection-intensive applications, such as web servers, to cleanly push part of their functionality into the operating system kernel, improving performance. There are plenty of filters and ways to filter content and firewall out unwanted data.

Soft Updates allow improved file system performance without sacrificing safety and reliability, by intelligently analyzing, caching and rewriting or reordering disk meta-data operations.

Support for IPsec and IPv6 allows improved security in networks, and support for the next-generation Internet Protocol, IPv6.

Handling Loads FreeBSD handles loads much more efficiently than other operating systems. Due to its platform it can run tons of processes and loads will be managed as follows. A system running 356 processes running FreeBSD4.2-STABLE maintains 0.10 0.09 0.01 a Linux system running 240 processes hits loads around the 4.0 ranges maybe more. Not only does the cpu hurt the computer in many ways but causes unwanted reboots, and causes the computer not to work to its best performance.

FireWalls FreeBSD has plenty of firewall method of blocking unwanted data from entering your BSD machine. I recomend using ipfw if your new here are some basic ipfw commands. ipfw add 01 deny ip from 127.0.0.2 to any "this would block all ips from 127.0.0.2 to your BSD box.

More Power Work in-progress includes support for fine-grained SMP locking in kernel, allowing higher performance on multi-processor machines, support for Scheduler Activations, allowing parallelism in threaded programs, file system snapshots, fsck-free booting, network optimizations such as zero-copy sockets and event-driven socket IO, ACPI support, and advanced security features such as Mandatory Access Control.

Now can you show me some actual test results and graphs :)

sure, what type of graphs do you need me to install/show?

Fedora

redhat

Originally posted by BurstNET
Fedora

I highly doubt that at this point. Fedora is being used a test OS for RHE. It's hardly the stable OS needed for a server.

RHEL is not buggy. The last kernel they brought out was buggy and not the actual software

Originally posted by Crucial
sure, what type of graphs do you need me to install/show?

I mean I'd like to see physical data showing the unix/linux distros being compared in speed, etc.

Greetings:

RedHat is here to stay; and we continue to utilize their operating system as the #1 operating system of choice even though we work with Sun Solaris, FreeBSD, and Windows 200x.

Thank you.

Hey your running solaris to, very nice. I'm currently reading up on solaris.

Has anyone tried any of the linux distributions based on RHEL public source?

http://whiteboxlinux.org/
http://taolinux.org/
http://caosity.org/

My vote goes to FreeBSD, for memory management (espacially for server running Postgresql and huge applications), ipfw features and load handling.

I would have voted Microsoft but it's not in the list !

;) (just kidding ... it's friday)

Redhat is here to stay, the pricing just seperates the men from the boys.