Hi Everyone,

Has anyone heard of 2MHost? I am thinking about using their services but would like to hear from people who have or are still using them.

Stay as far away from 2mhost as possible. Do not signup with them, find some other company.

hello kb@iy-2


why 2MHost is bad ?

I'll be here to respond


M.Noman
2MHost.com

why 2MHost is bad ?

Who knows? Maybe it is because you offer Unlimited transfer for $1.50/mo! Or maybe he is making a correlation between the number of spelling and grammar errors you have on your site.

Maybe he is refering to this thread????

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=22991

ooohhhh ...

we are very bad company then ,,

Hit the new thread button instead of reply by accident? ;)

yes thats true ...

any way we are still very bad because we provide unlimited bandwidth and have good prices ....


thanks rewdog

I always troubled with hosts that do not know how to setup proper ServerAlias. Hey, http://2mhost.com/ does not work! Better change your www-link info or do something with your httpd.conf!

cheers,
:beer:

I'm always troubled with hosts that don't know how to act professional in a public forum.:rolleyes:
This thread, alone, is enough for me to not sign with 2Mhost.:eek:

This must be the first hosting company that calls themselves bad.

:cartman:

You are right Kiwi..! :rolleyes:

C'mon ... why did you do that 2MHost?

Some people in this forum are PARANOID!!! As soon as they see the word UNLIMITED they start critising your entire business.

What you must understand is that these people do not have any common sense. They dont realise that 80% of clients which order cheap hosting dont even use more than 1GIG of bandwidth/month. This allows you to conpensate for the 20% that use a lot of bandwidth.

It really upsets me to see people putting down an entire business like this. These people dont realise that it takes 1000 good comments to get 1 client... but it only takes 1 bad comment to lose MANY clients! :(

I hope everyone reads this and starts distributing harsh critism more justly... not simply because they have problems with certain words!

Magic, of course 90% of your customers don't use much bandwidth, but advertising unlimited traffic is bad business because of misleading the customer - anywhere in the TOS an unlimited host has to state that he will shut down sites with too much traffic or CPU load or ...
Or do you really think an unlimited host will acceppt a site for a $9.95 per month fee with 400 GB traffic?

Firstly all web hosting companies which offer unlimited bandwidth say in their TOS that intensive use of CPU will cause suspension of your site.

Secondly, before reaching anywhere NEAR 100GIG (let alone 400GIG) bandwidth you would start using too much CPU resources, hence you would have your site suspended. Therefore there are MANY webhosts which are successful, even though they offer unlimited traffic.

Originally posted by Magic
Firstly all web hosting companies which offer unlimited bandwidth say in their TOS that intensive use of CPU will cause suspension of your site.

That's exactly what I said.

Secondly, before reaching anywhere NEAR 100GIG (let alone 400GIG) bandwidth you would start using too much CPU resources, hence you would have your site suspended.

Not true. Think of a simple download site or a very popular static HTML site.

Therefore there are MANY webhosts which are successful, even though they offer unlimited traffic.

I didn't state that these type of companies are not successful.

Originally posted by Magic
Some people in this forum are PARANOID!!! As soon as they see the word UNLIMITED they start critising your entire business.

And they deserve every bit of it.

What you must understand is that these people do not have any common sense. They dont realise that 80% of clients which order cheap hosting dont even use more than 1GIG of bandwidth/month. This allows you to conpensate for the 20% that use a lot of bandwidth.

I think everyone understands this quite well. Just because most people don't use more than 1 GB, doesn't mean you have to bullfrog them and offer something that is not only technically impossible but also fraudulent.

It really upsets me to see people putting down an entire business like this. These people dont realise that it takes 1000 good comments to get 1 client... but it only takes 1 bad comment to lose MANY clients! :(

I hope everyone reads this and starts distributing harsh critism more justly... not simply because they have problems with certain words!

I think it upsets honest hosts to see this type of advertising go unpunished by law enforcement agencies. Any host that offers 'unlimited blah blah blah' deserves every negative comment they get. Hopefully this will shut them down and make way for companies who do not claim to offer the impossible and save consumers from the dreaded 'unlimted fate'.

Look the word up in the dictionary and show me a host who can offer it. Host like to bend and make up their own defininitions to words like 'unlimited' but if you actually look it up, you'll realize that no host offers this, nor can they offer it. Besides this, they like to hide a few things in the TOS. I've seen, "Unlimited up to 1 GB/mo". This is acceptable? Pfffffftttt.

This is also a sure sign that the person who runs the site has zero business sense. I'd like to read some of the emails between an unlimited host when they tell their customer that they have somehow outgrown their $9.95 unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space plan and will have to upgrade to a $300/mo dedicated server with 20 GB of space and 65 GB/mo transfer.

As someone else has said before, unlimted bandwidth and space exists, you just have to be willing to pay for it as anyone who thinks they are going to get it for $9.95/mo is just fooling themselves, and any host who clamis to offer it for $9.95 should be passed over.

Harsh? No, just honest.

Originally posted by Magic
Firstly all web hosting companies which offer unlimited bandwidth say in their TOS that intensive use of CPU will cause suspension of your site.

Secondly, before reaching anywhere NEAR 100GIG (let alone 400GIG) bandwidth you would start using too much CPU resources, hence you would have your site suspended. Therefore there are MANY webhosts which are successful, even though they offer unlimited traffic. And therefore it isn't unlimited:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Magic
Firstly all web hosting companies which offer unlimited bandwidth say in their TOS that intensive use of CPU will cause suspension of your site. . . .Although I didn't read your TOS; I'm sure it includes the above type wording.
How else can you offer 10,000GB a month transfer?
Not only offer 10000GB; but at, as little as 1¢ a GB :eek:
You, like the ones that offer unlimited, are targeting an audience that understands nothing about bandwidth. :mad:

Chicken... i have visited MANY MANY of the webhosts sites, who are members of this forum... and i can tell you that 80% of them offer unlimited autoresponders.

Do you go around saying "how can you offer unlimited autoresponders? surely the client cant have UNLIMITED autoresponders for just $9.95... blah blah blah"????????

I DONT THINK SO!!!

Well, I'd assume that the number of autoresponders you have directly relates to the number of email POP boxes you have. I've seen POP boxes listed as unlimted as well, and I'm fairly certain that hosts are going to have a problem with you attempt to start up hotmail2 on one of these accounts.

You have to pick your battles and while I think unlimted POP accounts, thus autoresponders, itsn't much better, at least the major account features such as bandwidth and HD space should be reasonable.

Overselling is fine, but be prepared to give the amount you state. What's wrong with offering a 750 MB of space account with a set amount, say 20 GB/mo of transfer, with the limitations CLEARLY stated so there's no confusion?

I have no repect for hosts who advertise the impossible, and then restrict (read: limit the unlimted) the account to death in the TOS. This forum is full of stories of webmasters who signed up for unlimted accounts, got hit with the harsh reality that the host can't possibly deliver what was promised, and come here looking for a host who won't rip them off.

If email is your primary concern for your hosting needs, I'd pick a host that clearly states the limitations of this as well, or at least ask the host what the honest limits are. Nothing is gained by either party when fantasy is involved.

Hello,

Err... so... what's the better word for unlimited email accounts etc... not unlimited bandwidth & web space. If I stated something as below:

unlimited email accounts
unlimited subdomains
unlimited databases etc...

unlimited = as many as you wish within your allocated web space and bandwidth.

So... is something wrong with this?

I can't think of any good/short word for it... anyone can help?

Thanks :D

Regards,
Choon

Chicken i think u missed my point. The point is, since you are so strick on definition etc. then it is perfectly fine to state unlimited XXX if the restrictions are clearly define in the TOS.

If the client signed up for unlimited bandwidth, and hasnt read the TOS considering CPU resource restrictions, its really the client's fault as the TOS has clearly "defined" what is acceptable and what is not. In terms of legality... its legit.

Originally posted by Magic
. . . .In terms of legality... its legit. I don't think anybody's debating the legalities. But, rather, the deception.

Originally posted by Magic
Chicken i think u missed my point. The point is, since you are so strick on definition etc. then it is perfectly fine to state unlimited XXX if the restrictions are clearly define in the TOS.

If the client signed up for unlimited bandwidth, and hasnt read the TOS considering CPU resource restrictions, its really the client's fault as the TOS has clearly "defined" what is acceptable and what is not. In terms of legality... its legit.

Yes I suppose you are right. Alamo advertises unlimted miles when you rent a car from them (some companies charge per mile). This is something that actually works, if you rent a car for a day, there are only so many miles you can possibly drive it before you have to bring it back at the specified time.

Be kinda funny if you didn't read the 4 page TOS you signed when you picked up the car and they charged you extra because of a few restrictions:

1) Unlimted miles only valid during the nighttime hours. Day time miles charged at $0.10/mile (we have a sensor in the car that records the time of day and miles driven).

2) Only valid if one person is in the car, otherwise you are charged $0.05 per person, per mile.

As long as you bury it in the TOS, it's ok.

unlimited \Un*lim"it*ed\, a.
1. Not limited; having no bounds; boundless; as, an unlimited expanse of ocean.

2. Undefined; indefinite; not bounded by proper exceptions; as, unlimited terms.

3. Unconfined; not restrained; unrestricted.


The proper term would be limited, as there are limits placed on what the customer can do, as well as techical limits as to what the machine can handle. Limited doesn't sound as good as unlimited but regardless, that's what you're offering: a limited service which has bounds (or should), is defined and bound by proper exceptions, and is restricted. Failing to set limitations is irresponsible for your company's well being and for your customer's welfare.

I'm not out to change the world. I, and hopefully others, will steer customers away from these hosts and towards ones that at least attempt to offer the customer a reasonable package, at a reasonable price.

Here's one for ya' http://1dollarhosting.com

What do you think? If you had to guess, do you think you'd be put on a solid server, and your site would load fast, or do you think they most likely jam customers on servers connected to over saturated pipes? Sure, you can have unlimted transfer, or should we say whatever you can get out of the DSL line to Bob's bedroom.

It simply doesn't add up, and hosts only set their customers up for disappointment since they will never be able to provide what they claim they can provide. I'm not going to bother to read the TOS on the one I posted since I'm pretty sure there are a surprising amount of limitations on that $1/mo unlimited account.

hello,

i have small comment ... i offer "unlimited" things on my "local" webhosting business in a small country ..!


simply ...... if some one of my customers read 10Gb/mo transfer .. they completly ignore this offer .... they think they will be like "yahoo" or "amazon" .. they need to read "Unlimited" .. and in fact they make 10Mb/mo ..


i need to sell .. so i put Unlimited .. and i protect myself by very hard TOS .

%.5 of sites can grow .. make 5 or 6Gb/mo ... no problem %99.5 make nothing :)

this is is my openion ... make sales and customers very very happy ..

Yeah i guess your right chicken... but i have a lot of satisfied customers at ucvhost.com :D

Which brings up another quesiton... would it be acceptable to say unlimited bandwidth for an account which only offers 5MB space? I mean surely clients arent going to clock up GIGs and GIGs of bandwidth on a 5MB account?

new-webmaster, yes you will lose customers who aren't webucated (web-educated) and who are looking for unlimited webhosting to unlimited webhosts. I mean, I'm not going to argue the fact that if I didn't know better, Plan A - with unlimited space and bandwidth sounds better than Plan B - with 500 MB and 10 GB of transfer. It is marketing, in my opinion fraudulent and dishonest marketing, but I'm not you and you aren't me and no one said, we have to agree.

I also have spoken to people who deal in other markets (not in the U.S.) and we've discussed the hosting trends (I guess you'd call them) there. I also realize that most people don't have any concept of what a GB is, let alone how it relates to web hosting and their website. There is a delicate balance between educating your customer and completely confusing them.

Magic, in my opinon, even saying a 5 MB account comes with unlimited bandwidth isn't right. I posted an example of something I thought was completely shameful before, so I suppose posting an example of a host that tries to tell it straight, with explanations of 'how it all works'. They offer reasonable packages and have a very loyal client base and last I heard were doing quite well.

Check: http://www.futurequest.net/Services/Packages/

Refreshing compared to that other URL I posted really and I've seen hosts selling packages for $30/yr. for what they sell for $30/mo. At least you know they'll be able to pay for the server, something I wonder about a host that charges $1/mo. Tell me what you think...

Chicken:

"my opinion fraudulent and dishonest marketing"


NO! ... I'm very honest ... Customer want to have "online business card" with branded email address .. customer want to pay once and FORGET about check stats. for FTP transfer and HTTP transfer and ... , ... , ...

some ppl want to sell 4 or 5 products, have a site for their Pets, put some wedding photos , ...., ..., ...

so do you want to be honst ? do you want me to put plan A with 50Mb/mo*megabyte* traffic and plan B with 150Mb/mo :) so i can sell $1.00/mo ?

belive me ... about %50 of customers made 50Mb in first month and 0.00 after that .. for ever .... !!

as pro. Chicken ... how many sites can make more than 1GB/mo in %?

i wait for answer?

new-webmaster, I think you miss the point.
We didn't say that most sites have much traffic. Our point is that offering something you can't fullfill is not honest.

What Walter said. I also want to stress that most of what I said is for the American market, and that I realize that you'd have a hard time selling 50 MB packages with 10 GB of transfer for $20 USD/mo. in some places of the world. My wife is Korean and we've discussed the value of the dollar over there and it wouldn't be feasible for me to go after this market, unless I wanted to sell the same packages for 1/10 the cost (not to mention my Korean is limited to 3 words at the moment so support wouldn't exactly be easy, heh). I've also been told that in parts of Japan you'd be hard pressed to find limits on packages and even dedicated servers in some cases.

Offering unlimited bandwidth is just a ploy for marketing. There are far more offers in this world and twists on words for advertising on everyday items. Webhosting advertising is no different so nobody should be that surprised and if you are surprised, take a look around you when you go shopping or watch tv. (unless you are locked in a closet with a computer).

Unlimited is just to get you in the door then they send you an email after your site is getting 2gb of transfer per month and say they willl suspend your account till next month. WTF? The biggest lie'ing company I know is 2mhost.com they are the biggest peices of crud I know.

I am with you Chicken Preach on!!

just read their TOS. it's a complete rip-off.

you're hardly allowed anything except static pages and i wouldn't be suprised if they wanted to limit the amount of images you can have per page.

These 2Mhost.com people don't know how to run a hosting business.

They don't have any technical expertise, nor can they give any adequate support.

They tend to only know one email address and that is sales@2mhost.com
They forget about support@2mhost.com, because they can't steal any money from people reading people's crap stories.

So if you are a sane person, please stay away from that 2Mhost.com Hell Site.

I will admit this has been one of the more interesting threads to read. But I think it has gotten out of proportion. Ley it go and go critique on someone elses site.

Man,
You guys are animals!
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
For one thing, their service might be crappy, but I haven't heard any complaints from any of their clients on this thread. Rather, the people that are complaining about this site, are the people that are competing with it! That's just bad taste guys.

:flamethr: As someone who is always looking for credible web hosting, I wouldn't deal with any of you.

Look when you get burned as bad as I have and some of the people who have posted messages here. you will understand that 2mhost is the devil pass it on and tell your friends about it. Maybe if enough people know what a non supporting cancling to get your money guy that place is.

If I am to fullfill my life long dream its to see that this guy that runs 2mhost never gets another customer again. The hell that this guy put me through is too much we all need to ban together and fight this MENACE to America. For he is against everything we stand for.

I was a customer of 2mhost until few days ago.

UPTIME
I was monitoring my site with two free tools and a paid one. My average uptime was 94.8% (means more than 20 hours each month the site was down).

NETWORK
Claiming they are having 4 servers. I do not know if this is true but what is true is that they are on VDI datacenter which has too many downtimes on its own. Imagine know people trying to run a web business when they do not have a clue of technical issues! VDI's downtime + Lack of knowledge downtime = DOWNTIMES again & again & again.

SUPPORT
This does not exist in 2mhost. 80% of my emails asking for support NEVER replied! It used to be a live chat. Wherever I was asking for support they were telling me that they are sales not technical department!

COMPANY
Well we are not talking for a company but for 1-3 people living in Egypt (Kairo) trying to look as a big US based company!

PAYMENT
What you pay is what you get! Low cost, low reliability. This is the only truth on 2mhost story.

ADVICE
Stay away! Pay some extra to have peace in mind.


This is the truth about 2mhost from a very unsatisfied customer.

Originally posted by namelessguy
Man,
You guys are animals!
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
For one thing, their service might be crappy, but I haven't heard any complaints from any of their clients on this thread. Rather, the people that are complaining about this site, are the people that are competing with it! That's just bad taste guys.

:flamethr: As someone who is always looking for credible web hosting, I wouldn't deal with any of you.
nah. There's heaps of anger here from customers who've had a bad experience with this host. They are just venting. :cool:

Not venting...spreading the word so other people can spread the word and so on and so on. Till everyone knows they should stay away from a 2 bit hussler like 2mhost. They are as shady as they come and want to rob you of your money.

After reading some other posts I came to a discovery. 2mhost was selling the unused subdomains to other people or friends of his to use thouse for his own purposes. I was wondering all the time for the past 3 months why some Spokane Skate park was using some of my unused subdomains yet I couldnt find their data anywhere on the server.

So tell your friends what crooks 2mhost are, and stay away from them.

Thought this thread died like 6 months ago....

Originally posted by Aussie Bob

nah. There's heaps of anger here from customers who've had a bad experience with this host. They are just venting. :cool:
Hey bro, I'm not defending these guys, but several of the origenal posts in this thread were posted by people competing with these 2m people. I think that's in bad taste. As for pissed off users, well... that's another story. Although I personally wouldn't go on this quest for blood, I see no reason why you shouldn't.

Thought this thread died like 6 months ago....

Well, 2mhost (the beast) is still alive.

But, with such problems/downtimes alive is a word that does not corresponds to 2mhost... :P

when 2mhost dies that will be the day I get out and start dancing around.

DIE 2mhost DIE

Funny if they had given me the support I deserve and not have cancled my account for some lame of an excuse that wasnt even my fault nor technicanly possible my posting would have never happen. Oh well guess you never know who your going to piss off. Guess you should always remember the GOLDEN RULE the customer is always right.

people complain about 1.50 and 2.00 hosting ????

am I not reading this right ?

hey .. William

Dont be like that ..... I use your Data Center ;)

atomoverride please keep posting on this old posts .... i want
2mhost always the first thread in each Forum . ... may i made special offer for WHT users ....;)

For $1.50 - $2.00 they have access to fast servers, fast network.

We are here 24 /7, spending 1/2 million in investments..

and your servers are good.

Why would anyone complain ????

Are you aware that you could easily get $10.00 - $25.00 a month for your services.


2Mhost is a bargain in todays world..


How can anyone complain ???

Originally posted by 2Mhost
atomoverride please keep posting on this old posts .... i want
2mhost always the first thread in each Forum . ... may i made special offer for WHT users ....;)

Speak english dude. yeah this will be the first post and people will read it and say man what a crook 2mhost is. And at the end of the day my work will be done.

You ripped off the wrong person, and I will never let you get rid of me. Not untill you go out of business, or you get hit by a truck.

Originally posted by atomoverride


Speak english dude. yeah this will be the first post and people will read it and say man what a crook 2mhost is. And at the end of the day my work will be done.

You ripped off the wrong person, and I will never let you get rid of me. Not untill you go out of business, or you get hit by a truck.
How old are you. :confused: :confused: :confused:

What's the "2m" of 2mhost stands for?

From my previous experience stands for Downtime every 2 minutes! :stickout :stickout :stickout

To be honest I had a downtime once per week. Well, if you are stupid enough to pay $1.5 instead of $2-3 per month and have peace of mind, move on to 2mhost. If not, be wise from my dramatic experience with them...

WARNING! Do not ask by any means support. Well you could but don't expect reply in less than 3-4 days, if you are lucky. Usually I was not getting any reply or the reply was nonsense..

You know, for $20 a year, you really don't have much room to complain. I had a domain hosted with 2mhost for a year, and nothing bad ever happened to me. I always got quick responses out of tech support, and was never charged a red cent for extra bandwidth. I think what they mean by "unlimited bandwidth" is just that each account doesn't have a limit they can't go over. Basically, just use what you need, within reason (as is stated in their TOS). You get what you need, so long as you aren't excessive. That's all. They aren't claiming to have a "magic data pipe" or anything of the like. People take things too literally sometimes. The TOS clearly state what "unlimited bandwidth" means to 2mhost. For $1.50 and $2 a month...I think their service is great. If you don't like them, then take your business elsewhere and pay more money. No one is stopping you.

5 months later (from last post), I'd assume this is what happened.

Nearly a year ago I had meet their service and move all of my account to them. After a year passed I ran away from them. Lots of down time, overloaded servers, NO ANSWERS AT ALL ( you should wait to wake up your site by itself. You want to know why your site is down, you're dreaming )

;) ;) ;)

Originally posted by Magic
Yeah i guess your right chicken... but i have a lot of satisfied customers at ucvhost.com :D

Which brings up another quesiton... would it be acceptable to say unlimited bandwidth for an account which only offers 5MB space? I mean surely clients arent going to clock up GIGs and GIGs of bandwidth on a 5MB account?

Magic makes a good point. If a host offers unlimited bandwidth yet a small amount of HD space then there is no way they're going to be running up alot of bandwidth unless they ran a site like Yahoo or something! I think the hosts you've got to be wary of are the ones that offer unlimited bandwidth and gigs of HD space.

STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM 2MHOST!

This guy is completely incompetent... I signed up with them a while back, just to experiment. My account was constantly down, support is non-existant. The guy is in some distant middle eastern country and does not respond to any email or tickets.

It is a complete joke...

GO AWAY 2MHOST!