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headsurfer
10-17-2001, 05:05 PM
We're considering adding a "white box" linux solution with Plesk as an additional option to our offerings.

The deal might look like:

Intel Board and 1 GHZ Chip
1 GB Ram
2 - 20 GB IDE Drives (NOT RAID)
Plesk with 200 Domain License
300 GB Monthly transfer (Rackshack BGP4 Network)

$250 Set Up Fee, maybe $159 per month

or

Same box as above with dedicated 10 MB link w/ Cogent
$250 Set UP and $299 per month

An upgrade to an unlimited domain license of Plesk would be available at some additional fee.

Just looking for anyone's thoughts. At this point, we host strictly Cobalt Raqs and Sun Netras.

Thanks in advance,

Robert Marsh
Head Surfer Rackshack.net

TechnoHosts
10-17-2001, 05:10 PM
I would love this deal! I have a raq with you guys already. Would it be possible to upgrade?

NORRITT
10-17-2001, 05:10 PM
the offer sounds great

but
Originally posted by headsurfer
Just looking for anyone's thoughts. At this point, we host strictly Cobalt Raqs and Sun Netras.
why are you posting this in the "Special Offers" forum, if you are just looking for comments?

cperciva
10-17-2001, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by NORRITT
Why are you posting this in the "Special Offers" forum, if you are just looking for comments?

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/misc.php?s=&action=forum-rules

Dexter
10-17-2001, 05:29 PM
That's a killer package and price. If it wasn't for the fact that you don't allow IRC servers :( I'd snap up that deal in a sec.

delemtri
10-17-2001, 05:59 PM
That sounds AWESOME. Wow. Have you considered offering colocation too?

webbcite
10-17-2001, 06:39 PM
What OS?

Haze
10-17-2001, 07:00 PM
Pardon me, I had just had to change my shorts.. HOOK ME UP BABY!

HostingDirect
10-17-2001, 07:15 PM
If it is plesk 2.0 I would be very interested.

Groo
10-17-2001, 07:27 PM
:D This sounds very good...

Only thing that would make it better is if you offer SCSI hard drives for it too?

I would definately go scsi once I get off of my current crawling Raq3/512 megs ram when it has 120+ users in the Vbulletin forums....

headsurfer
10-17-2001, 07:42 PM
I must make clear, this is at the "CONCEPT" stage. We have not yet made a commitment to diversify the offering. I just wanted to get a feel to see if there was ANY interest before we made a significant investment to train our personnel of a new GUI.

Thanks for all input. It is appreciated.

Robert

CagedTornado
10-17-2001, 07:55 PM
I LIKE the concept.

Would you offer a discount for 'non-Pleskd' servers? (I prefer FreeVSD currently -- and I've already got a provisioning system built around FreeVSD).

Dan

creid
10-17-2001, 08:10 PM
that would be great!
Go for it!:D

Rewdog
10-17-2001, 08:16 PM
300 GB Monthly transfer (Rackshack BGP4 Network) for 159 bucks!?? Just sell the bandwidth and forget the server lol
:eek: :eek2: :eek3: :eek4: :buck: :eek2:

Fiber
10-17-2001, 10:24 PM
/me wants CPanel & WHM.

CPanel + WHM + RackShack = teh winnar!!

NetXL
10-18-2001, 03:22 AM
Sounds great! Glad to see Plesk being used more, nice specs on that machine too! Good luck with it,

domus
10-18-2001, 05:33 AM
would legal adult content be allowed on theese servers ?


thnx

Cyberpunk
10-18-2001, 09:30 AM
10mb - is that a 10mb per second link?

How much would that work out in bandwith p/m?

Dexter
10-18-2001, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Cyberpunk
10mb - is that a 10mb per second link?

How much would that work out in bandwith p/m?

Roughly 3164.063 GigaBytes per month. Assuming 100% line saturation.


And for those that want to know how I figured that out well It's a simple equation and so I wrote a little program to calculate it. You can download it here:
http://www.basicfiles.net/programs/utilities.html

Cyberpunk
10-18-2001, 10:21 AM
Thats a lot of banwith!

iwannabe
10-18-2001, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Cyberpunk
Thats a lot of banwith!

It sure is!

And excellent price for it, too.

But, I don't think server with given spec. can utilize
much of that bandwidth:)

Jonathan

Dexter
10-18-2001, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by iwannabe
But, I don't think server with given spec. can utilize
much of that bandwidth:)


Oh I bet it could handle a good 2/3rds plus...

although even with half that amount for the price, I'm not sure anyone would want to be tied to one network. If cogent network failed you'd be screwed.

headsurfer
10-18-2001, 04:08 PM
To try and answer a few questions, I want to make clear again, this is only a concept that I am considering adding to what we already do.

Content: There would be no content restrictions other than it must not be illegal. We will not monitor content on this offer and will make no restrictions. However, If you break the law, you would be history.

We're testing a box today with 1 GHZ P III with 1 GB Ram and 2 20 GB Hds. RAID not included. We'll see how it goes.

Thanks again for all of your comments,

Robert

nexzt
10-18-2001, 05:53 PM
Ok so you have a 10mbps line. but The offer still only gives you 300Gigs of bandwidth.

headsurfer
10-18-2001, 08:24 PM
No.......

With the10 MB offer, you get the full 10 MBPS, not a limit to 300 gigs. I hate the "unlimited" word, but it is unlimited transfer that you can get through the 10 MBPS.

Robert

haji
10-18-2001, 08:42 PM
There should be no setup. Also, is there a contract? For most dedicateds is the processing speed more important or the memory? Any options to add more processing or memory?

nexzt
10-18-2001, 10:12 PM
you need more speed to process things.. but yet you need ram to be able to process things.. its an evan trade off. You can really have one with out the other.

Chicken
10-19-2001, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by haji
There should be no setup.

Holy want everything BatMan! Seems this would be a pretty schweet deal, if they ever get something like it going/ You want no set up too??!! ;)

For most dedicateds is the processing speed more important or the memory?

This is somewhat like looking at cars and asking the salesman, "What is more important, space or a fast engine?" It depends on what you need to do. If you have a family of 6, then a two seater with a v12 won't do you much good (although it helps to have a fast engine to haul the family truckster up hills :D).

Dexter
10-19-2001, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by haji
For most dedicateds is the processing speed more important or the memory? Any options to add more processing or memory?

Well as said before it's really both. What's good having a powerful proc if you have no ram. but what good is lots of ram if it just sits around waiting for the slow processor.

Although with specs like that 1ghz (1000mhz) and 1 gb ram (1024mb) you will have more than enough processing power. Heck I'm running on a celeron 500 with 128mb ram and even with a good 2 doezen sites, half using mysql databases it spends most of it's time idle.

far as upgrading it depends on the board but being an intel board and the fact that the fastest p3 is 1ghz anyways, I doubt you can upgrade the proc... (well there is the new Tualatin based p3s that are faster than 1ghz but only certain boards can support it!)

and again depending on the specific board 1GB of ram is probabbly the max although it could go up as much as 2GB if it's a higher end server board.

NORRITT
10-20-2001, 04:49 AM
I like ensim because of the nice look, is there a skin feature for plesk? why are you going to use plesk? (sorry if this goes offtopic..)

headsurfer
10-20-2001, 10:51 AM
Why Plesk?

There were many reasons. Our customers have come to appreciate the Cobalt interface so we wanted a solution that was menu/GUI driven for the creation of and maintenance of customer hosted domains.

I also wanted a solution with a "point and click" webmail option that was easy to set up.

Support was also a prime consideration. We wanted a company that would provide onsite training for our personnel on an ongoing basis. RS learned, the hard way, early on that support was critical to ongoing sales. Better support definitely resulted in increased sales.

Cost was also a prime consideration. Obviously, we needed a solution that would provide an economical solution. If the GUI ended up costing 1/2 to as much as teh hardware, our consumer pricing model would not work.

Cost-Support-Ease of Use PLUS ongoing development is basically why I chose Plesk.

Robert Marsh
Head Surfer Rackshack.net

creid
10-20-2001, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by headsurfer
Why Plesk?

There were many reasons. Our customers have come to appreciate the Cobalt interface so we wanted a solution that was menu/GUI driven for the creation of and maintenance of customer hosted domains.

I also wanted a solution with a "point and click" webmail option that was easy to set up.

Support was also a prime consideration. We wanted a company that would provide onsite training for our personnel on an ongoing basis. RS learned, the hard way, early on that support was critical to ongoing sales. Better support definitely resulted in increased sales.

Cost was also a prime consideration. Obviously, we needed a solution that would provide an economical solution. If the GUI ended up costing 1/2 to as much as teh hardware, our consumer pricing model would not work.

Cost-Support-Ease of Use PLUS ongoing development is basically why I chose Plesk.

Robert Marsh
Head Surfer Rackshack.net

Good Choice! Plesk is a very good CP!

Chris

JTY
10-20-2001, 05:58 PM
If this works out, RackShack will do very well!