anybody can explain to me with simple explanation.
and can we use ASP in UNIX server ?

Simple explanation: They are different operating systems.

Windows and Mac are two popular operating systems for home computers, Linux and NT (and Windows2000) are two (three) popular server operating systems.

ASP on Unix: Short answer yes.

Longer answer, and although you can run ASP on linux (Chilisoft ASP is popular), it doesn't always work like people think it will. I am not all that familiar with it, but from what I've read, MS db's aren't fully, and in some cases, at all compatible. You'll have to wait to hear from someone who knows more, depending on what specific needs you have.

http://www.halcyonsoft.com/
http://www.halcyonsoft.com/support/techfaq.asp

Overall -- *nix is a better platform to host on. With NT theres a bunch of new problems created everyday, a new worm comes out almost every week. So i personally reccomend *nix hosting. However if you're into 'true asp' coding and need to access MSAccess and MSSQL properly then NT all the way.

Regards,

Asher.

Let me also point out (as a Windows software developer) that I LOVE *nix web development. There are EXCELLENT alternatives to ASP and SQL server on Unix/Linux -- and they're FREE. (See PHP at http://www.php.net or MySQL at http://www.mysql.com for more information).

Linux can also be FAR MORE SECURE than Windows 2000/XP by a LONG shot. (I also do security consulting.).

Dan

Yeap. PHP is byfar more powerful than ASP the same applies for mysql. PHP has everything built in whereas with asp you usually need tons of custom components -- yech.


Regards,

Asher.

it's clear now.

thanks

Originally posted by ******
What's the different between UNIX server and NT.

Answer : Is god a man or a woman, does cold get attacted to heat or is it the other way around, and does the change in delta when aproaching zero ever come to zero.

Well you opened a can of worms. I'd thought I add a bit of humor before I answered it.

Since your application is not known we can use some generalities.

1) *nix and NT are operatin systems
2) PHP and MYSQL (V 4 just came out today as alpha code) are free (both unix and windows platforms)
3) under windows there is a lot of extra coding required ( tweeking)
4) ASP coding can be done in red hat ( i don't know if any other *nix due to lack of knowledge)
5) Most *nix's try to stay virus free and security updated. While windows has some security risks ( the more money spent on securing a windows box the tighter it is )

6) NT developement cost are cheaper on the east coast than on the west coast. Unix developement cost are higher on the east coast. *nix system admins and software admins can command 10% to 30% higher pay rates than the respective NT people.


so that you know: Nasdaq web site is hosted under NT from top to bottom. in 1998 I read the report on how it was done ( very interesting ) a lot of custom Dll work.

-Michael

Simple answer... Security.

UNIX = Security
NT = It's from Microsoft, you figure it out! :D

Originally posted by ^Kyo
Overall -- *nix is a better platform to host on. With NT theres a bunch of new problems created everyday, a new worm comes out almost every week. So i personally reccomend *nix hosting. However if you're into 'true asp' coding and need to access MSAccess and MSSQL properly then NT all the way.
But these worms are not Windows related. They only attack IIS and IIS is not the only webserver for Windows out there :).

Alexander

I actually meant IIS i said windows by mistake. Although there are other webservers out there IIS i think is the only server which supports the 'true' Asp. And besides i think most people who run windows2k also run iis with a few exceptions.

Regards,

Asher.

My hosting service uses Linux and NT. As the NT server is constantly incurring downtime, I am seriously considering a move to a new host or different platform.

I've paid upfront for a year's worth of NT plus SSL and despite my complaints/reporting about their poor service, I get zero response. Autoresponders with a query ticket does not cut it with me.

Mails to Nicnames's MD have not even been acknowledged.

By way of example, this morning (and several other times) after LINX's problems yesterday, I had to phone Nicnames to remind them that the NT server was still issueing a DNS error and to please switch me on!!!!

Is this not a sad indictment of hosting service in UK?

I do not think that downtimes are really operating system related, but rather related to the knowledge of the hoster. I am having an account with Central Information Services (http://www.centralinfo.net) (and they only run Windows servers) now for almost a year and my experience with their uptime is very good. If it comes to Windows hosting, I really can recommend them.

Alexander

Originally posted by zoid
I do not think that downtimes are really operating system related, but rather related to the knowledge of the hoster. I am having an account with Central Information Services (http://www.centralinfo.net) (and they only run Windows servers) now for almost a year and my experience with their uptime is very good. If it comes to Windows hosting, I really can recommend them.

Alexander

I agree with you!

Windows is OK.

My problem stems from the useless Support team who NEVER react.

Why the hell is it always me that has to phone them to tell them to do their bloody job????!

Some time ago the downtime was two days! Support simply put the phone on voicemail! The MD of the company did not nor has ever responded to my emails.

Not good. Not good at all.

I personally prefer Linux, but there are some impressive ASP Apps out there that those of us using Linux miss out on. One good example would be the Snitz forum which is quite nice for the price (free).

Well, I've had experience with both servers and I have been programming with ASP for quite a while. Never got the time or chance to learn PHP :)

I can run ASP on both Windows and UNIX servers (with Chilisoft ASP). But it's all simple stuff. You can't put MS Access on the UNIX servers (though I wish you could), but from what i hear about mysql, i think it was better for me to move the database contents to mysql.

There really is a security issue with Windows though. I managed to view all the companies hosting on my hosting providers server! I'm sure that's not supposed to happen :)

I can so easily modify files, and that, but I'm a nice guy and I won't do that :) Btw, I am NOT a hacker. I didn't hack into the server - just got to get that clear.. I'm not smart enough to hack into servers, only dream that one day I can... All I did was download this file that would allow me to edit my files via the web and somehow, it allows me to edit any text files on the server...

I wonder if I should tell my hosting providers about this security hole they've got :cool:

Originally posted by happyhappy
There really is a security issue with Windows though. I managed to view all the companies hosting on my hosting providers server! I'm sure that's not supposed to happen :)
Again, Windows itself is not unsecure. It fully depends on the Administrator how he sets up the permissions and how much he knows about the system in general. If you look at CIS (http://www.centralinfo.net) for example, there I cant view any directory outside of "my" tree.

The only sad fact is, that the default permissions in Windows are not that restrictive as in Unix (but this comes probably from the fact, that Windows' roots are from a single user system). However a good Administrator can adjust this properly and a "bad" Administrator can vice-versa destroy the restrictive permissions of Unix (just some 777s :D).

Alexander