I am considering a couple of reseller programs which I want to place on http://www.DaytonWebHosting.com. Right now, Hosting24-7 looks to be the better one. I do like that HostYouSite.com offers a site template. Without a template, I am concerned about technical errors in my site's copy. Any thoughts or advice will be greatly appreciated.

[Edited by couponjim on 10-06-2000 at 12:13 PM]

Ive never hard of them, so they must not be very big. But I couldnt tell if their good or not.

Interesting that because you have never heard of them "they must not be very big". Also interesting that when plugging the company you work for (or own) that you would not use better grammar or spelling. Or is that just the "Ole Down Home Feller" approach? "After all is said and done, more is said than done."

Hosting24-7.com looks like an Alabanza host. If that's what you like, then you can do lots of apples-to-apples comparisons without leaving the comfort of this forum. :-)

Two observations about Hosting24-7.com:
1. I didn't see a reference to how much bandwidth they're offering per plan. Check this carefully. Never believe "unlimited" bandwidth or similar phrases.

2. They require a 6 month commitment on your resold accounts! I suppose this is in lieu of you paying a reseller fee or buying a specially-priced reseller plan. I don't care for this, because it has the potential of costing you money should the client opt out before that time is up.

THe reason why I say they must not be very big is because they are not very big. I have been in this industry for seven years and have never heard of them. That would make me qualified to make those kind of assumptions!! And furthermore I never siad they were a bad company, there are many small companys which frequent this board which are just a one man show, that I would not hesitate to send a customer who needed hosting too because they are outstanding individuals. And you buy putting me down as a individual and our company shows what kind of business ethics you have. Oh well ill just shuck your lack of ethics out the window due to the fact that your new to this board.

Oh and one more thing. I dont plug my company anywhere but in my sig which is where everyone plugs thier companys.

Good Luck,
Oh and thanks for informing me of missing the e on heard. Im too busy assisting fellow board members, then to worry that everything I type is exactly right. But I will be more carefull in the future.

Im in Kansas... Proud to be the "Ole Down Home Feller"

:)

Originally posted by cbaker17
THe reason why I say they must not be very big is because they are not very big. I have been in this industry for seven years and have never heard of them. That would make me qualified to make those kind of assumptions!! And furthermore I never siad they were a bad company, there are many small companys which frequent this board which are just a one man show, that I would not hesitate to send a customer who needed hosting too because they are outstanding individuals. And you buy putting me down as a individual and our company shows what kind of business ethics you have. Oh well ill just shuck your lack of ethics out the window due to the fact that your new to this board.

Oh and one more thing. I dont plug my company anywhere but in my sig which is where everyone plugs thier companys.

Good Luck,
Oh and thanks for informing me of missing the e on heard. Im too busy assisting fellow board members, then to worry that everything I type is exactly right. But I will be more carefull in the future.

Im in Kansas... Proud to be the "Ole Down Home Feller"

:)

Just putting my opinion here, cBaker17, since you've been here for 7 years in this industry, it doesn't always naturally qualify you to make those kinds of assumptions. I'm pretty sure that there are other companies out there who are bigger than you and you mite have not heard of them before. Remember that there's a LOT of Hosts out there, Probably over 20,000 and some of them are really bad (which gets a lot of attention) and some of them pretty good which do not get much attention.

Just my thoughts on it because I don't really think that anyone can just qualify themselves to make a quick assumption just like that. For example, When I told a friend of mine about this free advertising in our local classified newspaper here, and since my friend hasn't heard of it, he immediately assumed that it was small and not popular at all, but when in fact, that company has made themselves very popular through their free advertising in their classifieds ads and hundreds and thousands of people apply weeks ahead to get a spot to put their ads there. When he said "Since I haven't heard of it, it must be small", one of my other friends replied back saying that maybe he's just ignorant (which I agree).

So yup.. just my thoughts on this subject..

~~ Think outside the square that you live in ~~

My apologies to anyone who may have been offended. Having been in retail management for over 30 years (until becoming disabled), I have always considered the person representing a company to be an extension of that companies values and an indication of that companies abilities and credibility. In stopping to help others, which I have never hesitated to do, I have tried not to use that time spent as an excuse for forgetting the rules by which I was brought up. The internet has changed many of those rules. I still feel that proper english and grammar is important in both the written and spoken word. Unfortunately, in some areas this concept is not the norm. Again, I apologize. But, if I received poorly written notes, memos or letters from a vendor/supplier or saw those same type mistakes in an advertisement (or website), I would hesitate to do business with that firm. I "kick myself" whenever I make errors on my websites, but I'd rather know and correct them than to simply ignor them. PS: Having been born and raised in Corbin, Kentucky, I too am a "Ole Down Home Feller". I just choose to not project that image to the world. PSS: After all is said and done, I commend you for any efforts to help others. All too many do not take the time. Please continue to do that.

What's the purpose of writing? I always thought it was to convey information.

Having had a brief career as a newspaper editor, I too cringe at poor grammar, misspellings and other such butchery of the English language. I have read the raw copy of well-known writers who couldn't spell to save their lives, let alone tell me what a semicolon does. However, in spite of these shortcomings, they could get their point across in writing better than I could ever hope to.

It's the rule on the 'Net to cut people some slack when it comes to language. In part because it's an international arena in which you'll find many non-native speakers of English. There are many other reasons as well, but I'll save some bandwidth for the next person in line. :-)



[Edited by alchiba on 10-06-2000 at 01:02 PM]

I just finished an email to brucec@tooltastic.com, a British company. I am preparing to answer Kerry Gao, papercut@263.net, at JQ99 studio "Located in Xi'an, northwest China, our studio is an agent of Chinese papercuts". Yes this is an international arena. Also, a good editor sees the value in a writer's work. Does that mean that he presents it to the public unedited? I do not think so. I will attempt to get off of this soapbox. I would really like to solve my beginning question on this board. As a 56 year old who had not been exposed to a computer or a keyboard until February of 1999, like me or hate me, but forgive and help this old man who is an infant in a modern technological internet world.

[Edited by couponjim on 10-06-2000 at 03:09 PM]

Originally posted by couponjim
PS: Having been born and raised in Corbin, Kentucky, I too am a "Ole Down Home Feller".

couponjim,

Small world. I was raised in Middlesboro, KY. Played basketball in Corbin many times. Corbin - The birthplace of Kentucky Fried Chicken.

[edit]By the way it is technological not technilogical[edit]

[Edited by Marty on 10-06-2000 at 03:03 PM]

Went to the Colonel's place a few times, just outside Corbin. It was a Trailways bus stop also. Before KFC, best known back home for cured hams. Thanks for the heads up on spelling. Looked at your site. Looks nice. Interesting shape and color selection. Looks like you went south, most of us hillbillys went north. Any advice on reselling or reseller programs?

"There is not a right way to do a wrong thing."

North??? Too cold for my blood. After being down here for 10 or 12 years, anything north of Atlanta is too far north. Advice on reselling: Well, I am just getting started so I don't think I am the right person to ask. The best advice I can give you is to make sure that your "supplier" is able to support you well and is reliable.

Just sitting around waiting on basketball season.

In advance: Sorry for my poorly written english (I'm from the Netherlands).

Hosting24-7.com is a host on an Alabanza server. When I do research on companies or I see an url interresting, I check the url without and with the www in front of the domain plus extension. You might want to check that first if you want the companies you work with to be as accurate as yourself.

Just a suggestion.

Hello,
I strongly believe they are an Alabanza resseler. I just signed on with them and they are the best I've found in price and feature offers after months of research (infact, if they are Alabanza i don't know how they make a profit). One thing, I've been with them just for about a month, no problems at all but it is always difficult to get someone on their tech support toll free line. My emails are usually answered in less than 15 mins though. Also first sign up for their free trial offer and ask them about their price guarantee. I heared Albanza increased its rate. If they are alabanza their rates may increase too. So ask them that. I locked in my rates for a year. Strongly recommended. Good luck in your research
God Bless

The services of Hosting24-7.com looks great, but they copied the FAQ of http://www.gxhosting.com and I think that the picture on http://www.hosting24-7.com/aboutus.htm is an edited photo...

Originally posted by Sander
The services of Hosting24-7.com looks great, but they copied the FAQ of http://www.gxhosting.com and I think that the picture on http://www.hosting24-7.com/aboutus.htm is an edited photo... No doubt, that photo -- claiming to be their building -- is obviously edited. Face it, there's no way these guys are based in a building that has "Hosting24-7" plastered on it in big letters. And everything on that site is lifted from somewhere -- the faq, as you say, from gxhosting, and most of the rest from jumpline. Even the logo is reminiscent of Jumpline's, and now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I've even seen that building on some other site, but with a different name on it!

Smells like a scam to me, I'd stay far away.

From the comments I've received, I would have to agree that Hosting24-7 has "problems". I use that term instead of some terms that come to mind, but are a bit more (expetive deleted by myself). Posts by tejan, camara, brandy and others all say some of the same things. None will give a websites address which they supposedly have hosted at Hosting24-7. Several of the moderators have asked and not received replies regarding this. In addition to example websites, several have asked why the could not sign or contact Hosting24-7. My one question now, since I definetly would NOT use Hosting24-7 is: Why do/did they do this? Advertising? Certainly turned out bad here. Also, if you cannot sign up, what is the purpose. I've sure learned a thing or two. Mostly good, but as always, watch out. This type of forum is great and the moderators and contributors are by far and away some of the best. Thank you.

That definitely is an edited photo of their "corporate offices". Wow, what a bum wrap. I wonder who's building that is a picture of? I'd love to send them a copy of it ya know? Not a bad idea though if you want to mislead your customers into thinking you're something other than some guy sitting at home in his underwear watching scooby-doo reruns and picking his nose all day (all resellers do this don't they?). Works a whole lot better than sticking a giant sign on the monitor of your computer and taking a picture of that. That's what I think I'll do though. Put a sign on my monitor and call it my "corporate office"! I'll have to beat them away with a stick!

But yeah, if a company is gonna pull something like this, I'd stay away. But then I guess you won't have any choice BUT to stay away as there's really no way to sign up anyway.

[Edited by Beauzeau on 10-10-2000 at 01:16 AM]

Originally posted by Beauzeau
I wonder who's building that is a picture of? I'd love to send them a copy of it ya know?

Bad clip art no doubt.

...some guy sitting at home in his underwear watching scooby-doo reruns and picking his nose all day

I just started my month vacation. Scooby Doo reruns whooo-hoo!

But then I guess you won't have any choice BUT to stay away as there's really no way to sign up anyway

So true. So sad, but so true. :)

Originally posted by Beauzeau
Not a bad idea though if you want to mislead your customers into thinking you're something other than some guy sitting at home in his underwear watching scooby-doo reruns and picking his nose all day (all resellers do this don't they)Resellers do, yes. They watch the scooby-do reruns, but the rest of us are watching the brand-new season of never-seen scooby-do episodes! And waiting for the feature film due out this month!

Don't tell the resellers.


By the way, the Hosting24-7 clowns have fixed their error -- well, one of their errors -- and now have the correct link to their order page. You know, in case anybody is interested in signing up.

Originally posted by JayC
By the way, the Hosting24-7 clowns have fixed their error -- well, one of their errors -- and now have the correct link to their order page. You know, in case anybody is interested in signing up.

Not that anyone would, but do note that the form asks for your credit card numbers and it is NOT secure.

Guess it's a coupla kids 12 years old who don't know what's a credit card and how to use it. Guess they have a misconception that they can do hosting if they know to get the good out of Photoshop. It shows in their demo control panel too. Look closely, they have lifted the WS_FTP icon to use it for the Anon_FTP. Dunno what's more in store.
Why do they run a web hosting company if they cannot have a secure order form? They seem to be an Alabanza reseller. There are many well known good Alabanza resellers. Please check out these forums.

I would like them to clarify their rationale on these pages if they visit this forum.

BTW, what's that "ole' down home feller" mean? I live in Chennai, India and am totally clueless.

TheWingThing.

Originally posted by TheWingThing
BTW, what's that "ole' down home feller" mean? I live in Chennai, India and am totally clueless.

Welcome to the WHT American Slang Correspondence School:

It's an American figure of speech, meaning an individual who's from the same part of the country as you. It's spelled that way to imitate the accent of someone from (in this case) Kentucky. ("ole" = old, "feller" = fellow, "down home" = local, from the same place)

HTH

*drawls* Rednecks...

*ducks flying hoods from KKK, huge raw steaks from Texans and about 567 guitars from the Country Hall of Fame in Tennessee*

Just kidding, just kidding, alright?!!? Geez, southerners have no sense of humor... :D

[Edited by BC on 10-11-2000 at 07:51 AM]

Originally posted by Beauzeau
Not a bad idea though if you want to mislead your customers into thinking you're something other than some guy sitting at home in his underwear watching scooby-doo reruns and picking his nose all day (all resellers do this don't they?).
LOL LOL LOL

Originally posted by BC
Geez, southerners have no sense of humor... :D

Personally, I'm a mid-Atlantic kind of guy. Southerners consider me a Yankee, northerners call me a southerner. I call it being "regionally agnostic". So, I can laugh at it all! :-)


[Edited by alchiba on 10-11-2000 at 09:20 AM]

hosting24-7.com is only a 3 month commitment not 6. they used to be an alabanza host but they are moving to verio now.

Yeah, we've been with hosting24-7.com for about 4-5 months already actually on the reseller program.

The staff are usually pretty helpful, I have to say.

Things are fine when they are working, but every now and again we'd have problems, We're thinking of getting a dedicated server with them and moving all our accounts over, since we also have some complex scripts that we need to run.

Just wandering whether anyone has any experience with their dedicated hosting???

Please advise.

Jason

Well, I have been with 24-7 for about 10 months now...started off as a reseller and now have their hostserv200 ded server. They had MAJOR MAJOR network issues in july and august, but things seem to have smoothened out now. I am lucky I live only 50 miles away from pittsburgh and decided to drive out there to check out their DC before getting into a ded server contract. Its been good so far though. I have never had the server go down and I can get a technicinan by phone 24hrs a day. Their techs are sometime rude, but they get the job done quickly. I also had some billing issues which took forever to resolve. Best part about the ded servers they gave me root access and allowed me pretty much install whatever I wanted. Overall, I am pretty comfortable with this guys. Good luck!

Originally posted by jodiep56
Best part about the ded servers they gave me root access and allowed me pretty much install whatever I wanted.

I would assume every company that provides dedicated servers give you root access. :)

I noticed you only have one post. And your IP is more then likely from an edu too right?

This precisely is why I do not post on this and other boards. No offense, but I cannot deal with the personal attacks. I just got my first ded server ever a few months ago and before that I contacted a few places who told me I wont get root access. I don't what you mean by my IP being a .edu but here it is if you need it 66.45.32.162 Thanks.

what companies told you, you wouldnt get root access? I would like to know for my own record...

Originally posted by jodiep56
I just got my first ded server ever a few months ago and before that I contacted a few places who told me I wont get root access.

Were you looking at 'managed' dedicated servers (or companies that provide managed services)? This is one area of dedicated servers which clients don't always get root access (that I can think of off the top of my noodle).

I was looking at Alabanza, 'cuz I was with 24X7 when they were with Alabanza and liked Alabanza's features. But Alabanza told me there were restrictions on what I could installed and they would not give full root access. I also contacted a company up in Canada, can't remember the name but they were pretty big too, an alabanza competitor. I must admit I did not search far and wide 'cuz I liked the deal my host was offering me- maybe I would have gotten something better if I looked further, I dont know.

Ahhhh Alabanza. Well, although many hosts have said they do have full root access to their Alabanza boxes, this isn't the first time someone has said that they didn't allow it so I'm not sure what they tell people or what's what exactly.

There are limitations as far as upgrades (I suppose due to the control system, and their aim of not having users install things that flog the whole server), so I've *read*.

I say *read* since I only looked at them, thinking of getting a server there, but thought they were a bit high at the time, and wasn't convinced they offered support to match the price. Since then, they've changed some things over there and now are even higher.

This is an old thread and I've personally come to like the 24-7 guys much more than when they first came here, heh. They just need this one to drop off to the depths of the bottom of the forum ocean and have some newer threads.