I'd like to know how to do a seamless transition from one host to another, if the destination host has shared IP. Sure, I can upload files... but.. I can't actually go to the web site to view it or test out my code, until the domain transfer propagates. Is there some other way to set this up? PS, I'm referring to a Win2003 Server environment.

Thanks!

Other,

You can always do :

http://shared.ip/~username to see your website :)

That's not default behavior though, is it? The host has to set it up to work that way?

Nope, that's default. You can almost always do that unless they have mod_userdir or whatever enabled.

hsphere gives you instant access to your site using sub domains of the main domain. This is great for testing. You can also shut down all of your browsers and edit your hosts file in your windows\something directory. You will see in that file how to do it. Then start up IE and type in your domain name.

Justin
:crap:

Yes, basically every host will provide you with some way of accessing your account without you domain pointing there.. I would just email the host you choose prior to paying and verify it.

Hey man its easy.... just put your website in your hosts file with the ip for the new site, like on xp/win2k just edit \windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts and add:

IP.OF.NEW.SITE your.domain.com

and then.... your computer will go there... and apache on the new server will see that your browser requested your.domain.com and everything will be cool... test it out then change your dns.

Originally posted by nickn
Nope, that's default. You can almost always do that unless they have mod_userdir or whatever enabled. This is - plain and simple - wrong.

aldee, how do you figure?

In almost every control panel, there is a way to access it via IP. So please tell me how it is - plain and simple - wrong.

kthnx. than when you realize it's not wrong..you might still have time to edit your post ;)

Originally posted by nickn
Nope, that's default. You can almost always do that unless they have mod_userdir or whatever enabled.

i nipped that in the bud when i found that over and over again clients were using it and it counted against my stats and not theirs

Is it really necessary to argue over everything/anything? :D

Originally posted by LaurenStephens
i nipped that in the bud when i found that over and over again clients were using it and it counted against my stats and not theirs

Yep Lauren, that's the disadvantage, those dishonest folks find ways around all the good things.

The thing you can do however, is enable it for new clients until their domain is propagated :)

Well, the web host has to set it up as you describe it... It may be that way in the default setting of some control panels, for others it isn't. Saying it is the case for "almost every" setup is not correct.

HTH.

Aldee, please son. Don't make me go find a account to show you this with. :rolleyes:

nickn, grandchild, I never said you wouldn't be able to find such an account.

lol

http://69.56.205.66/~hellon/

There's an example for you, 69.56.205.66 is a shared IP, hellon is a username :)

Hosts have to turn it off, it's turned on by default, as Lauren said.

Anyone with a CPanel account, feel free to test this. It works. Trust me. I didn't enter the industry yesterday.

It has been funny as long as it lasted. As I said before, it depends on the software your "hosts" are using. Have a nice day (evening).

You're right..maybe if the hosts aren't using apache, you know, if their using Zeus, or IIS..maybe it won't work...I'm not sure, haven't tested it.

However, I'd say it's safe to assume the user is using apache.

(You can read up on userdir here:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_userdir.html)

Your statements speak for themselves. Thumbs up, pal.

P.S.: Feel free to go on, no more anti-statements from my side :-).

Nah, I'm done...Just trying to help ;)

Enjoy your evenin' sir. :)

Back, on topic...the answer to the thread is, with most, if not all hosts, they will provide you with a way to use your site before it's propagated, some do not count it against your bandwidth (such as cpanel) some do (such as ensim)

Speak with your provider on this, they will definitely be able to assist you, even on a shared IP.

When I was at both Lunarpages and Dinix, we included it in the welcome emails, asi t's one of the most common questions. I'd be suprised if your host didn't :)

Originally posted by nickn
Yep Lauren, that's the disadvantage, those dishonest folks find ways around all the good things.

The thing you can do however, is enable it for new clients until their domain is propagated :)

i didnt know i could do this on a case by case basis??

i used to allow it by IP/user name and TOLD ppl that they should only do this for the first few days... well, you know people...

i doubt any of my users are "technical enough" to realize the bandwidth issue, i think they just got lazy or forgot or just didnt know how to do it the "real way" :)

aside from the bandwidth usage i was getting on my accounts, it was messing up my "stats" as in statistics as in referrers, page views, etc that kind of crap. im real big on compiling and using my stats data :)

Originally posted by nickn
http://69.56.205.66/~hellon/

There's an example for you, 69.56.205.66 is a shared IP, hellon is a username :)

Hosts have to turn it off, it's turned on by default, as Lauren said.

Anyone with a CPanel account, feel free to test this. It works. Trust me. I didn't enter the industry yesterday.

lauren always agrees with nick.

nick is god.

dont argue with nick.

nick knows....

ps yes it was a cpanel default, everything is default with cpanel. thats the fault of cpanel. its very faulty.