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Sen. John Kerry will win the Democratic primaries tonight in Delaware and Missouri, and Sen. John Edwards will capture South Carolina, CNN projects, according to exit polls.

Four other states are holding contests tonight, and the collective results could give Kerry, a 19-year veteran of the Senate from Massachusetts, new momentum as the front-runner in the Democratic field or give new hope to other candidates such as Edwards.

Edwards, a first-term U.S. senator from North Carolina, had described a win in South Carolina as critical to his candidacy.

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For more info :: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/03/elec04.prez.main/index.html

John Edwards gets S Carolina

John Kerry gets Missouri and Deleware

There is apparently a 3 way split in Oklahoma at the minute but Clark is expected to pull through and carry the day.

This could spell the end for Liberman and Dean isn't sitting pretty and is putting all his eggs in the Michigan and Washington state baskets.

At the minute a Kerry Edwards partnership looks quite possible.

One thing though, i think that the political speeches and screaming by fans or rent a crowd pre or post announcement by the candidates is cringe worthy in the extreme. I don't like it but that is me and i am not used to it, either way i give that side of the race a :disagree: but it is interesting to see it evolve.

Opinions?? Comments??

Critic,

critic you are the official WHT news updater.. and you do a good job at it too! lol

News is awesome=]

critic you are the official WHT news updater.. and you do a good job at it too! lol

Well i try and stay true to myself wherever i am and thanks for the complement but official news updater, hm others pitch in too but i'll wear the unofficial hat for now.

JoshLee, i'd agree, news is knowing and knowing leads to understanding of things and this is good.

And finally

In line with this thread i heard a live address by Jo Liberman barely minutes ago and he has now officially withdrawn from the race; he thanks all for other candidates for serving the Democratic party and the nation.

Also i am hearing reports that Kerry is going to take Arizona by some margin.

Critic,

Either Edwards or Kerry winning is fine by me. It would give the democratic party a big boost if the other runs for VP. :)

i think we need to get a new President.. and I don't mean one from the democratic party. None of them have impressed me.

Each one tries to outdue the other by insulting Bush More.

<== Not a Bush Supporter Either

The US needs a new President? I'm available , oh dang, you have that law against foreign nationals becoming anything more than Govoner in political office, oh well.

PM ofBritain was always the priority.

Jo Liberman didn't seemed to bad to me when i heard him last night but one thing which didn't help him was the fact that he was too near to the centre when the Democratic voter is taking a hard lef turn.

Howard Dean is almost broke from what i've heard and unless he wins in Michigan and Washington states by quite a way we will probably be hearing about his withdrawal before the week is up.

Kerry and Edwards appear to be sitting pretty at the minute, in both the Democratic party scheme of things and in the national polls; however until Bush's campaign really gets underway it would be a bit foolish to take the national polls as an accurate representation of balanced opinion. It would be like starting a round of boxing whilts one fighter is still in his corner sitting on his stool.

Now i haven't seen any pictures from last night's primaries as yet but how do the candidates get their crowds to be oh so juiced up like the duracel bunny. ha

As i type this i've just heard some complete idiots stopping the Prime Minister's speech by yelling from the public gallery at the House of Commons. Dear God, couldn't they've stayed outside so as not to ruin it for other member of the public who might like to watch, this could have a lasting negative impact. I just heard a report of what they were shouting and it is the MO of the STWC [Far Left hypocritical group opposed to the war] or similar groups and a group calling themselves Judges for Justice is a possible cause.

Critic,

Originally posted by Critic
The US needs a new President? I'm available , oh dang, you have that law against foreign nationals becoming anything more than Govoner in political office, oh well.


I honestly do feel that someone from a foreign country, with a good record could make a better President than what we currently have and what the Democratic Party holds. Obviously I don't want someone who just came from another country - but rather, someone who has lived here for a long time (10+ years) and has shown to the community that they've taken an interested in our political party and have proven themselves worthy to be our President.

Originally posted by VH-Robert
I honestly do feel that someone from a foreign country, with a good record could make a better President than what we currently have and what the Democratic Party holds. Obviously I don't want someone who just came from another country - but rather, someone who has lived here for a long time (10+ years) and has shown to the community that they've taken an interested in our political party and have proven themselves worthy to be our President.

Well out of the current crop of foreign national ong term residents in politics the first one that comes to mind is Arnold [California Govoner]. I don't think you necessarily have to look for non American born citizens, you have all you need within your own ranks but a 3rd party of some kind of sixe might shake things up a bit instead of just the Democrats and the Republicans holding the cards.

I don't think it helps the situation and this isn't just in the US that at the minute the leading parties in countries seem to be Right Wing and Left wing and if anything leaning to the far side of things on both counts, the moderate centre is being eroded in the US which i can't see as allowing for a smooth running of a nation. This is evident to me in the US at the minute in my opinion and is why Howard Dean received so much support early on most likely. The lack of moderates and support for them is a bit of a problem in my opinion and they are necessary to bridge the gap and is why the Republicans are still in the better position for now at least.

We are just in a bit of lull at the minute on the global political scene when it comes to exceptional leadership and candidates. Tonly Blair for instance is a respected and leading statesman on the Global stage for which few can equal but his domestic house is falling down around him.

What we need are less short termist populist and externally influenced politicians but bold and right ones taking the long term view and alone if necessary. << May sound a bit cheesy but it's how it is. The ironic thing is that George Bush does follow the latter but he isn't consistant enough and doesn't do it in every area of his responsibility.

Sorry, went off on one for a bit there but had a bit to say about politics more generally. :D

Oh got another question for some Americans here, now i know it exists and have some opinions of my own on it BUT what is with the American political/population and their obssession with former member of the military becoming Presidne t? It just isn't as higha priority in Britain, they are highly respected and in our debt but in my view but it is not the issue that it is in the US?

Critic,

Originally posted by Critic

Oh got another question for some Americans here, now i know it exists and have some opinions of my own on it BUT what is with the American political/population and their obssession with former member of the military becoming Presidne t? It just isn't as higha priority in Britain, they are highly respected and in our debt but in my view but it is not the issue that it is in the US?

Critic,

Bush continues to focus on 1 issue - War on Iraq. Now that everything else has fallen (ie. employment, health insurance, security), he's now taking an Interest in fixing those other issues.

The President of the U.S. is determined not by the people, but by who can cheat. And of course who has more dinero. Take for instance when Bush ran for president. How ironic was it that the *only* state that had issues was the state that his brother is the Governor. No doubt in my mind that cheating was done. So I don't feel Bush won the election fair and square. However, Gore is a girl. So I'm not sure who I wanted to win if I could have vote.

I don't think a president should have ANY Political Experience. America seems to focus more on other countries issues, than our own. And most of those issues are related to War or someone trying to take over another country. In which case, I feel that a President with Military Experience (Wesley Clark - who graduated first of his class at WestPoint) would make the ideal President.

Bush has no military experience - and if you are gonna mention his Air Force or whatever experience, how come a record cannot be found? "Sealed" away in to Senior George Bush's Library.

Originally posted by ilyash
critic you are the official WHT news updater.. and you do a good job at it too! lol
I'll also say well done Critic. I read 'em all now. Between you and Timechange, news and wacky news is pretty much covered. :D

Originally posted by VH-Robert
In which case, I feel that a President with Military Experience (Wesley Clark - who graduated first of his class at WestPoint) would make the ideal President.


Atleast he (Wesley Clarck) is already a war criminal before he became president, could be a nice change :cartman: .

VH-Robert, oh i understand that it doesn't occur everywhere but if someone has it [military experience] it is seen as a plus point. I wasn't intending to talk about Bush or any Republican for that matter but it has come up when i've been listening to coverage of the Democratic candidacy race.

Wesley Clark might make a good President but i feel that his campaign is not going to get him the nod by the Democrats at the minute so he might have to wait for another term. I do have some other issues with Clark but only time will tell. A possibility could be Clark as Vice President candidate alongside Hilary Clinton in 2008. Before looking foreign, maybe have a look at a Woman President. That duo might have some winning Presidential legs and then it would be up to the Republicans to see who they put up for it.

Aussie Bob, i'll repeat what i said to ilyash first time round :)

Eric Cartman, i think i might ignore that, i don't want to create a verbal riot in here.

Critic,

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
I'll also say well done Critic. I read 'em all now. Between you and Timechange, news and wacky news is pretty much covered. :D

Yes, I am bound to cover the wacky news; boredom never settles in :D