Hello friends, sirs, madams,

This post has got a second part which is not very important.
My questions once again to this forum :

It appears that different webhosting companies have different experiences with admin/control panel softwares. Search shows Steve has no problem with Ensim while HostExp has lots and has shifted to Plesk. similarly Hsphere ,cpanel/darkorb has mixed results it seems.
I have used tera-byte site admin panel and affordable hosts custom made panel for my own accounts and had the experience of cpanel with a friends account. I have said before that I miss the fun of MySQL ( creating and deleting dbs) and subdomains but other than that cpanel ( the product cpanel - dont know which version) was a lesser option for me for ftp,htaccess etc plus the friends woes due to a cpanel host made me ask the questions in that thread cpanel hosts to be avoided ? I now find that with Plesk,Ensim ,cpanel or whatever ,different hosts and different clients have different experiences and knowledges to share on the same type of panel software ( other factors like disc space,transfer,scripts supports etc remaining nearly the same).

My question is which host is handling which admin/control panel software the best and which will be the best host + admin /control panel software to go for my another account which I need now ( as my .ro name is screwed up).Personally I have no problem with the minimalistic but functional type of panel like the one at Tina's but for our joint account we will like to take the taste ( it seems now) of a popular admin/control panel unless the Tinatype or something new there proves to be the { "more" } better. What are the client experiences ?
note : By admin/control panel I mean mean stuffs like Hsphere,Plesk,cpanel/darkorb,Ensim, any others.

Thankxxxx.


2nd part :

This part is going to get longish.My apologies. Feel free to skip to the last lines or just skip it.My apologies again 4 the extra click you have to make..

Re http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=22424
which I started was locked.May be the discussion was hot with hot exchanges but it was not a battle or war - it was a good ,free discussion - thats how I felt. It was a sheer gain of knowledge (for me at least and 3 of my computer-starter freinds as well) till the last post before it was locked.I felt sad it was locked.Perceptions of what is useful and what is not is relative and I respect the mod's decisions. I restarted the thread on mod's advice ( I was not told that restart has to be done in another part of the forum). And just coming back after a short time I found that it has been removed.I felt sad for the second time.I know there was a separate zone here for cpanel but my post was in a different context [ if you see my first post at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=22424 ]I felt sad that I was locked and then moved outI know there are/were "mod" reasons for it but sadness know no reasons. So I deleted the first post I made here
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=23200&pagenumber=1

Today whole day I was out and at my painting teachers place and felt better.I thought I should thank Tina,Tim,Anette, Webdude,bdraco and all who shared their time and knowledge with us. I also thought to gain knowledge one has to shed any sadness or shyness .So I thought I should reframe my post-title ( since the last was not much liked by many)and post newer questions in the light of knowledge of the past discussion.And thought may be I should post it here as what I am meaning is "webhost's with various admin/control panel or various versions of same of admin/control panel" <---> endusers usability and advantages to go with such a host , provided other factors ( space,bw, script,support) remain same .

Since experts have already shared much of their time on these issues I cannot expect much but any feedback from them again will be great - any feedback from endusers themsleves will be gems for me.
My gratitude and regards. Thankxxx to all . Cheers :)

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since I received quite a few PMs on "what was that ?" and since I was saving a copy of these pages of valuable discussion -
<< The edited/deleted post at
WebHostingTalk Forums > Main Forums > Hosting Software and Control Panels > Control Panel was

"Regarding : http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showt...?threadid=22424
I understand and fully appreciate the amount of time the experts have taken out from their daily busy schedule. I will still say lot more people you dont see are full of gratitude for it is they who got benefitted from this share of knowledge.Its sad for these unspoken lot that the thread was throttled suddenly.[ I guess closed thread never gets opened up again just becoz a silly newbie and his friends are 'sad']

My "new" question is somewhat continuation or result of these discussions

which is better of the lot to administer/manage a hosting account for the enduser
cpanel-darkorb
Hsphere
Ensim
Pleask
Tinatype
others


- if experts feel no longer they will take part or if mods feel they should close threads the loss will be ours .But whatever they said so far I assure ,and for the records say again has helped a lot . Thanxx ,Gratitude and Cheers "

The edited/deleted post ends here >>
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Dont waste reading what safu has said above - make the most of 'ur time at
http://flingthecpw.com/flash

Instead of the two subjects you mention here; why not make two different threads.
One on which host?
One on which cp?

no no !!
I mean what will be a good combination
for example webdudes + cpanel - they had problems
Annette + cpanel - they had no problems

so for cpanel , go to Anettes . may be ?

again persons a+B+ c say Ensim is best - better than their past experience at cpanel - so choose Ensim

but Host Exp + Ensim = lots of problems

while Steve + Ensim = fine ! smooth !

So for Ensim now - go to Steves . may be ?

similarly if Plesk outweighs the rest or Tinatype further outweighs all of them or any thing newer like Tim is developing ....

like this I meant

of course considering other factors such as bandwidth, perlphp, support etc etc remain same ( so no question of which host separately ) ..

thankxxxx softwarerev

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get it now ! play 2 separate versions here : classic and mod
http://flingthecpw.com/flash

I think that its not so much the panel, but the people that have problems that they can't fix and then blame the Panel. I'll never use a third-party panel myself, because I don't want to have the hassle of not being able to fix it.

So I guess I'm saying "Don't judge a panel by its hosts." :) I'd look for hosts that use your favorite panels, then pick the best out of those.

"Tinatype"? Actually, we don't have a name for it...maybe we should? :D

Anyway, you say you really like our "control panel" (simple, but good) - but also say that you want a commercial-type control panel for other accounts. I'm curious, what would you like to see in our's that we don't currently have?

--Tina

Originally posted by bombino
I'd look for hosts that use your favorite panels, then pick the best out of those.

I guess Safus' point here is combination

I saw various demos of cpanel , I choose it to be my favourite but the host with it I choose was so horrible I wont want to relive the experience again. 2 of the buddies there ( with the old host) left and joined nuke.to - there they are fine with cpanel they say.
So how the host-panel combination work is to be judged.The numder and opinion of posts on these has been confusing.

hi Tina,

thankxxx. I was in no hurry for the another account but the .ro name I booked with you seems to be not resolving yet (no problem with affordablehost ). There is no problem with the "Tinatype" panel - it is cool. Only some stuff about cpanel which I mentioned before in that locked thread also and which I feel is fun is the way you can instantly create and delete as many times you like databases in MySQL - creating and deleting subdomains is fun too. Not that I badly need that fun ( as if flinging cows is not enough :D) but just to have the kick of it ( and the fact that I have a spare $50 got as a gift ) I am looking for the best panel+host combo.May be I will gain some experience also like Tim,Anette,others.Hsphere - Ensim - cpanel -Plesk all seem to have strong presence. I love the "Tinatype" too very much :) and may be I am indulging in dichotomy here :( ( if thats the word )

I read the moved post on cpanel but Tim has deleted all he wrote there before I could read - so that was a "loss" of knowlegde-gain for me and I apologise to Tim if he had experiences that made him decide not to respond to such posts - it was me who , in the first place , insisted him to share his knowledge with me. I will say " I will miss you Anette" too if becoz of my thread you have decided not to come here again . My thanks to all others and apologies if any one felt the title of the locked thread was not in good taste.
Be always with us - the newbies - even if our questions or slants in them are not always acceptable - we learn from you all always.Thanxxx.Cheers. :)

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this site is not mine ;-)
http://flingthecow.com/flash

cpanel is working fine at aletiahosting.com. Hostmatters.com is reportedly good too. If you are looking at something new like Hsphere hostiva.com has that - their reports were intially good in this forum but recently there were some reports on malfunctioning - I am not sure. Nuke.to may be the cheapest ( for that $50 you are having) - no problems with cpanel , no downtimes but they are new.
What is Tinatype :confused: ?

i wouldnt say ensim has been 100% smooth but its been far superior to anything else ive seen for massive amounts of hosting, we have had some difficulty fine tuning our virtual server offering with it, the windows ensim platform still needs some work (i have a new patch that should fix up those issues on monday) the linux ensim package had some quirks i wasnt expecting but the ensim people have been there for us 24/7 and im getting every issue i can throw at them resolved in minimal time frames. here is what i know for sure, i can offer stats and they work, email accounts dont suddenly disappear, i can set up new accounts in less time than i could on a cobalt (less than a minute), and everything they say they can do to this point they have been able to do.


Steve

so where it is lacking in smoothness then ?:confused:
so is Ensim better than the cpanel you used previously or is it better than the talked about Hsphere ? and with Ensim mail functions like send mail work 100% ? with cpanel they reportedly did not half of the month ! 100% mail function is more important than uptime !

Originally posted by cbz2
What is Tinatype :confused: ?


He's referring to our Members Login area. See: http://www.affordablehost.com/screencaps.shtml

--Tina

may be you should name it , patent it and market it :)

It's just a simple little control panel though. I just had my programmer put it together for me - didn't really think about sharing it. :)

The thing I like about it is that it is integrated with my order form - so it keeps track of billing and automatically emails the customers who have accounts due and they can then pay right from their login page. It's made my life easier!

Mods: This isn't an ad - because I'm not selling it! :)

--Tina

Originally posted by AffordableHost
It's just a simple little control panel though.

--Tina

better not to call it "c"ontrol "panel" ;)
may be Admin Panel.


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your own exclusive panel to admin cows :
http://flingthecow.com/flash

tina - is that link working ?

Originally posted by cbz2
tina - is that link working ? You talkin about her Members login area?? 'Cuz it works for me ;)

Originally posted by cbz2
tina - is that link working ?


Which link??

--Tina

Originally posted by bombino
I think that its not so much the panel, but the people that have problems that they can't fix and then blame the Panel.

and you are insinuating what here? There's a difference. We didnt have problems with the original cpanel at VDI. We only started having probs when we switched to Darkorb. My experience comes from having two servers that were exactly the same running different versions of cpanel. The one is still at VDI and still has no problems. I dont know what Nick changed in it, so cant know how to fix it. There is too much code to go thru. However, it has been significantly proven to be a cpanel issue. I can turn off cpanel and never have any probs. Either way I go, I have tons of pissed off clients.

I forgot to ask annette which one she is using...the thread blew up too much..

"I forgot to ask annette ...."

She said she is using three types of panels most probably - that means not only cpanel but also Ensim etc ? Not sure.

W'dude - did you see the Tinatype ?

Tina - if you are here - does affordablehost have its own noc ?
The .ro name I booked is not resolving - I will have to go for another account - yes I am after that fancy cpanel but most impotantly I need 1000% zero-failure send mail for a simple php script "send mail " function- when a site is down that is ok but a php script showing "mail sent" on screen but not sending mail in the background is very deceptive for people will think they have sent while the recepient never receives.
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