Good day!

Pricing now a days seems to get more and more bizzare...
Not that these prices are anything new, but more big and established companies offer them now...

I was surfing the web the other day when I saw a google ad by ******, offering 2000MB space, 60 GB bandwidth for 7.50 per month.

What do you think of that?

Might want to do a search bout ******, there have been some reviews on WHT bout them i believe.

And here's some other hosts offering some very good pricing i've been seeing lately.

Midphase, Hostingplex, HostConcept, Ipowerweb and many more.

The only Co.s that have been able to carry off these largish plans well are lunarpages.com and hostrocket.com To some extent midphase.com also seems to be getting it right.

The rest will just make you cry - Gisol ****** Powweb iPowerweb

My friend went with ******, never again.


There server was iffy, and also when it came to cancelling the account, it took them weeks to. And it took them about an extra month after cancelling to give his 30 day guarantee money back!

Server was iffy? They have a clustered system. I wonder how it was "iffy">

I've had quite a few people leave ****** and come to me. Even though I charge more, for some odd reason they seem to be happier. Go figure.

Er, no. I just got out of hell with ******, I cancelled about a week ago and my site is still up, it will also take 15-20 day's to get all my money back. They also messed my billing up and was going to charge me $180.00 for something THEY did! Now I'm trying to cancel everything and eveytime I say cancel they bring some reason to stay with them, then ask why do I want to get rid of the service (sorry, it's frankly NONE of their business). My site is also slow (I have cable internet and my site won't even come up sometime's). I would say a big NO to them. I just signed up for lunarpages.com, and I'm hoping everthing will get better!

Stay away from ******! Horrible control panel. If you use FrontPage you will really want to avoid ******. If you do open a ****** Account MAKE SURE you really test them before you loose your money. Better yet pay by the month.

and ****** has some bad restrictions, like 2gb/day and you can only use 50% of the bandwidth for binary.

i am really surprised to hear so many bad things about ******, what is so bad about their control panel? (i've never seen it)

i had the impression they would be better because of their whole cluster thing

I also read many bad things on ******, not only here but other forums too.

Steer very clear of ******. In fact, do a U-Turn. I too am in the process of trying to get the hell out of that one. It has to be at least a month now of trying to get them to cancel the account. Website was slower than slow. FTP'ing was a nightmare. Customer Support was nothing but generic.
I cant stop ya, but read what others are saying. 2GB's may look good, but it sure wont feel good to pay for something that is defective.

~Brian

Aren't they the same owner's from the ICOM days? Where again, they had a bad rep then too?

Well, Basically the owners of ICOM split up, I believe one ended up at PowWeb, IPowerWeb, and at ******.

Maybe two out of those three. I've had steak with the owner of ****** a few times, he's a decent guy, he just uh..has a different business plan than others.

Must understand that it's always the "upset" customer that speaks out, how often does a happy customer blurb out? Not as many times as the bad ones do!

So, sometimes, you get the wrong impression, surely they are somewhat good, if they have that many accounts and only couple hundred complain.. That's my take on it anyway.

Agreed. You will very rarely hear from a happy customer, it's the irate ones that get heard.

When it's one or two customers that are upset/irate (still one or two too many, IMHO), people don't tend to take it seriously. When it's a bit more than that... then people notice...

Yeah, Exactly....****** has more than 30,000 customers now at least. We heard a complaint once, maybe twice a month.

Must understand that it's always the "upset" customer that speaks out, how often does a happy customer blurb out? Not as many times as the bad ones do!

So, sometimes, you get the wrong impression, surely they are somewhat good, if they have that many accounts and only couple hundred complain.. That's my take on it anyway.

I would have to agree with HP-Kaumil. For those who are unsure which hosting company is best for them, I would suggest them to sign-up for a month with each. Spend a few extra bucks to test out which company really performs.

I did the same before choosing my current host - HostConcept.com.

Exactly... there is a 30-day money back guarantee for that exact reason. And even if a "real customer" comes on WHT to talk about the hosting company, they get grilled by everyone claiming it's "planned".

So really, the only way to tell is to try it your self!

After signing up with ****** in December 2003, I've had nothing but problems. Their response times are terrible, and site uptime is "iffy" (as someone put it). Sometimes it will take a full two minutes for a page to load (and no one visiting a site is gunna wait that long).

Can anyone recommend a comparable host (i.e. 1000MB space, MySQL/PHP, etc)?

Kaumil, are you related to ****** in anyway? I'm currently hosted on tonga.******.com and my sites are soooo slow. It's a Perl/PHP execution issue. HTML works ok (though not great). There are just too many processes running... it's really quite frustrating. Customer service people are very friendly, but basically are unable to do anything. I called today and the guy basically directed me to the cancellation.

My site is on tonga.******.com . . . it's the slowest piece of crap ever.

The HP-Kaumil and HP-Kevin guys are obviously affiliated with ******.

They oversell, which is one thing I don't like. When I say oversell, they oversell by a LOT.

Their servers are very slow.

Their tech support is horrible. Their billing is even worse. Took me about 6 phone calls to get my money back.

With ******, believe the negative hype. There is a lot of negative talk about them out there, and it is true.

Server was iffy? They have a clustered system. I wonder how it was "iffy"> Whatever. Just ask around.

meanpc, sorry I missed the actual information which shows we are related to ******, could you recapp that? and i disagree with overselling, i don't think we need to get into that here though.

what domain did you host with hostingplex , this is assuming it took many calls to get the refund from hostingplex not ******

i am really surprised to hear so many bad things about ******, what is so bad about their control panel? (i've never seen it) i had the impression they would be better because of their whole cluster thing

and, this proves what meanpc?

It's actually gotten a lot better now (my site is on tonga.******.com, btw). I don't know what they did, but response times for the database are a lot better, and uptime has also improved. I still have problems with the email occasionally.

Their control panel is still as awkward as ever....I don't know why they don't use an industry standard, like cpanel. And they still don't let people use htaccess . . . they say it's a security risk or something. Can someone explain that to me, because htaccess is one of the most useful tools for webmasters.

and, this proves what meanpc?

Never tried to prove anything. Just wondering why you and the other HP guy are taking up for ******. They are a BAD host. They don't return phone calls, answer emails promptly, etc. It is also evident that they oversell by looking at the packages they are selling. The short time I was with them the control panel responded very slowly. Bad experience with them here.

Avoiding phone calls and avoiding refunding money really ticked me off.

No, you said we were obviously affiliated due to these statments. Do you deny this is what you were saying? maybe you were speaking a different language.

And again, overselling, do you even know what overselling is? I love how people do a complete analysis on a company using their pricing alone, its amazing!

You make very serious claims, if you feel you got poor support thats fine, nobody can argue your opinion, but how can you be so certain they were avoiding you? maybe they are simply understaffed and not able to support you, or they are disorganized and just were not getting back to you etc, avoidance is very specific.

see the difference with me, I'm not out to get anybody, I show interest in other peoples technology and pricing, I like to see how other people are viewing these systems etc.... I think a clustered system is much better then cpanel, cpanel is stupid... its just lucky it has a pretty interface and is easy to use for the users, but it lacks any form of scalability.

p.s. any spelling or grammer mistakes, don't fee obligated to correct me, i did not proof read this.

No, you said we were obviously affiliated due to these statments. Do you deny this is what you were saying? maybe you were speaking a different language.

Nope, just don't feel it necessary to "prove" it. Your statements have been enough proof.

And again, overselling, do you even know what overselling is? I love how people do a complete analysis on a company using their pricing alone, its amazing!

Selling more bandwidth/space than you can reasonably provide. My analysis involves their pricing, support and performance, if you look back. "using their pricing alone" is a blatant and obvious false statement.



You make very serious claims, if you feel you got poor support thats fine, nobody can argue your opinion, but how can you be so certain they were avoiding you? maybe they are simply understaffed and not able to support you, or they are disorganized and just were not getting back to you etc, avoidance is very specific.

They didn't return messages. They would tell me they were going to do something and wouldn't. They would tell me they would call back in a half hour, and wouldn't call back at all. I don't see that it matters whether they were understaffed/disorganized/disinterested, the end result for a potential customer is the same: poor customer service, and a MAJOR hassle getting money back. This is to say nothing of the domain name I purchased through them. Will never do that again.

see the difference with me, I'm not out to get anybody, I show interest in other peoples technology and pricing, I like to see how other people are viewing these systems etc.... I think a clustered system is much better then cpanel, cpanel is stupid... its just lucky it has a pretty interface and is easy to use for the users, but it lacks any form of scalability.

******s control panel performed very poorly when I used it. It also had nowhere near the features of cpanel. I think there are quite a few that would disagree that "Cpanel is stupid". ******'s pricing is such that they are unable to provide reasonable support, or even deliver the goods as advertised. Reference many who have been shut down for "CPU usage". It is impossible to get anywhere near the advertised bandwidth rates without using a good deal of the CPU time. In the rare cases where someone actually uses the resources of their account, the hosting company gets rid of them.

"90 percent of users will use 10 percent of the resources" is something I've seen before. Some companys choose to deliver to the 10 percent that use the advertised resources...some, such as ******, and others, choose instead to cancel their account due to CPU use. Unethical and is downright fraud.

If youre interested in the price structure of Fraud...it usually tends out to come out well for the business. Fraud is very profitable these days.

Now - why were you surprised to hear bad things about ******? You said you never used them before. Actually, why would you even have an opinion?

Originally posted by nickn
Well, Basically the owners of ICOM split up, I believe one ended up at PowWeb, IPowerWeb, and at ******.

Maybe two out of those three. I've had steak with the owner of ****** a few times, he's a decent guy, he just uh..has a different business plan than others.

You had steak with him? That must have been fun, I wish I had one friend that was in the webmaster buisness but because my school dosent offer any programming or design classes knowone is interested expet me. I would love to just sit down and talk with a real webmaster. I could talk for hours and hours!

i just left ******, not extremely bad, but not good either. Not good enough to renew my accounts.

Even though my ping times to malta.******.com are low right now, my site won't come up. Does anyone know if its down?

I've been there for about 3 weeks and this is the first problem I've had with them.

The control panel is slow but offers everything I need. Free frontgage support, ftp was reliable before today(but somewhat slow), MySQL with Php admin, php 4.0 support.