It looks scary doesn't it?

3rd person is now having these diease

Damn this crap people making this stuf and playing games with us

I am tired of this sh*t and this is not need.

Whats the hell wrong with Bin Landen?? He needs to die !!!

:angry: :angry: :angry:

<- points to Location title.

:eek:

<- Feels stupid because the location title doesn't exist anymore.

If it did exist, it would say "Boca Raton, FL"...

You're trying to blame this anthrax incident on bin Laden? That's a reach. This is hardly surprising, though, since right now everyone will tend to blame anything that happens on terrorist activity even when that can't be shown.

Originally posted by Peeps
You're trying to blame this anthrax incident on bin Laden? That's a reach. This is hardly surprising, though, since right now everyone will tend to blame anything that happens on terrorist activity even when that can't be shown.

I think that 3 cases of Anthrax infection in an area in which some of the terrorists were known to have lived can be considered more than just a simple coincidence. At the least, it begs for a full investigation.

Anthrax occurs naturally in people who pet sheep too much. ;)

Lots of people are realllllllly overly afraid of anthrax. Not that they shouldnt, but..... I actually work in an ER during the day and today we had a guy who questioned if a bag of peanuts he bought had anthrax in it . He thought because of some powder, and because of "arabic" writting on the bag that it was anthrax!

-- Brad

Bin Laden did say that

"Every American will suffer or something like that"

I seem to be pissed when i see protestors in AMERICA PROTESTING AGAINST THE WAR....

Anthrax was an okay Metal band in the 80's, but I think they are pretty dated now. I wouldn't worry.

Originally posted by Synergy
Bin Laden did say that

"Every American will suffer or something like that"

I seem to be pissed when i see protestors in AMERICA PROTESTING AGAINST THE WAR....

He said (or promised) that noone in USA will feel safe until the people in his country feel safe. I feel very sad for all innocent people in all countries that are being affected by this and loosing their lives/friends/families, not just in USA. Why don't they go kill eachother in the desert or somewhere and stop playing with peoples lives? :mad:

and whats wrong with protesting against the war? do you want more innocent people to die and suffer?

U.S bombs terrrorists

terrorists attack U.S

it will go on forever...

Someone needs to set a example.

Originally posted by Synergy
Bin Laden did say that

"Every American will suffer or something like that"

I seem to be pissed when i see protestors in AMERICA PROTESTING AGAINST THE WAR....

Originally posted by Hostexp
Someone needs to set a example.



I think the terrorists set the example....

Does anyone think there will ever be a lasting peace in the Middle East? I don't think something that's been going on for thousands of years is going to end anytime soon, or ever. It sucks that people have to be so foolish, but if you were taught you were the promised people and it was your holy land and that it's righteous to fight for it, I suppose the killing will never end and there's no reasoning with them. Innocent people will always die every day because of stupidity and evil, that will never change. Then again, we can't let that control our lives and country too, so we have to take action, since they are attacking us over here anyway, so it just goes on and on and on and on...

Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Does anyone think there will ever be a lasting peace in the Middle East? I don't think something that's been going on for thousands of years is going to end anytime soon, or ever. It sucks that people have to be so foolish, but if you were taught you were the promised people and it was your holy land and that it's righteous to fight for it, I suppose the killing will never end and there's no reasoning with them. Innocent people will always die every day because of stupidity and evil, that will never change. Then again, we can't let that control our lives and country too, so we have to take action, since they are attacking us over here anyway, so it just goes on and on and on and on...

Yep...it looks like we've been dragged into a long-running conflict. I agree that we cannot turn the other cheek when 5K of our citizens were murdered.

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hmmm...it ried to edit that post using the second of those posts.....sorry

Originally posted by RotoHost

We cannot, however, do NOTHING when 5K of our citizens were murdered.

That pretty much sums it up. And the most foolish thing, is promises that if we attacked them for what they did to us (they, being the people responsible and supportive of those that committed these acts), that they would attack us. Sort of pathetic that they think they can attack us and tell us to not do anything, or they'll attack us. They are terrorists, they will anyway, and they did. They forced our hand and this is what will happen. Of course, we all understand that, but unfortunately there's no way to get around it and innocent people will die.

However, the US has some pretty awesome technology and the smart bombs are smarter all the time, and I think all in all, because the US isn't so uncaring and insane as the terrorists, and that the innocent lives taken will be minimal because of that. It's too bad that these innocent lives are basically lives of people that are victims of these insane ruling parties anyway though. Still, I don't see that we had the choice, but that's how the world is and will always be. We don't like it, but we can't allow it, we don't want to have innocent people suffer or die, but we have to take action.

What really bugs me, is that American flags were so hard to get, yet there's an abundance for a lot of idiot's in Jakarta to burn. Why these nuts' can't comprehend this and understand that we are simply retatilating for their (the terrorists, not their people) attack on us is going to happen and is justfied, is ludicrous. So, the people that are fools, are demanding we allow terrorists to detroy us, or they'll have a problem with it.. well, there's our problem that will never go away, it'll never end. However, I fully support ridding the Earth of terrorists and only a terrorist would have any issues with that. (Assuming the US is smart and fair about how they take action to go about accomplishing that, of course).

Originally posted by Tim_Greer


However, I fully support ridding the Earth of terrorists and only a terrorist would have any issues with that. (Assuming the US is smart and fair about how they take action to go about accomplishing that, of course).

This will be the trickiest part of the whole mess, I'm afraid. We all have to settle in for a long-winded conflict. This will not be another Desert Storm.

Originally posted by RotoHost


I think that 3 cases of Anthrax infection in an area in which some of the terrorists were known to have lived can be considered more than just a simple coincidence. At the least, it begs for a full investigation.

Of course it begs for an investigation. But terrorism? Three cases, in an area where none of the terrorists lived or went to flight school (based on the best info so far) isolated to a single building (a tabloid, of all things). If you were a terrorist and had access to anthrax spores and access to a populated area like Boca Raton, would you go to the office of a tabloid and release it there? Why not someplace a bit more populated? I still say it's a reach.

Originally posted by Peeps


Of course it begs for an investigation. But terrorism? Three cases, in an area where none of the terrorists lived or went to flight school (based on the best info so far) isolated to a single building (a tabloid, of all things). If you were a terrorist and had access to anthrax spores and access to a populated area like Boca Raton, would you go to the office of a tabloid and release it there? Why not someplace a bit more populated? I still say it's a reach.

Wasn't the first case and man that died, someoen whom lived very near (or pretty near) the airport where Air Force 1 was housed for Bush's visit? If so, from what I recall hearing (I could be wrong), I don't think it's so far fetched. The duration it's been since someone in the US has contracted Anthrax has been a while, and this one was also mad-made, as you probably know. I think it's reasonable to say it should be investigated (which is obviously is) and it makes a lot of us think, but I must have missed any one claiming it was definitely terrorists. I don't believe, if what I've heard is accurate, that it's at all unreasonable.

The original poster's words lead me to believe he thinks it could be terroristic in nature. Just as some reports started coming in about the plane bound from Israel to Russia going down - the first thing out of peoples' mouths was terrorism. The Greyhound bus that was involved in that accident due to some weirdo slashing the driver - the first thing out of peoples' mouths was terrorism. It's become a catchall for anything that is not understood or immediately explained. Occam's Razor. What is more likely? That this anthrax thing is a single, targeted incident, or that some terrorist organization had it in for a tabloid? Sans proof, I choose to err on the side of terrorists being interested in bigger targets. Like two towers in mid NYC. If this anthrax thing is terrorism, then whoever is responsible has some pretty stupid terrorists in their organization.

Though there is no information at this time linking the Anthrax attack in Florida with terrorism, it is not unreasonable to believe that this is within the realm of terrorists to pull off this kind of attack.

If the mail was really the carrier, than it matters not where the terrorists were when they sent it.

If the mail was really the carrier, than when this comes to light, the terrorists will have accomplished their goal of making none of us feel safe. None of us are safe from mail...

I hope that this turns out to be a singular occurance and was targetted at the Enquirer for it's outlandish behavior - and is not the beginning of a larger and more wide spread Anthrax attack.

Though it may be difficult to spread, airborne anthrax is nearly 100% fatal.

-t

Terrorists attacking a tabloid via the mail? I'm not sure where the mail enters the picture here. In any case, say it was the mail. What about the mail carrier or the sorters or everybody else in the office who might have handled the mail? Why aren't they all seeing this (especially the first person who would have handled it)? Why not just send a mailbomb? There's a higher percentage of causing great damage that way rather than relying on some anthrax spores that might or might not survive the journey on or in a piece of mail. Even the FBI says there's nothing that links this to any of the terrorist's activities.

Just like the Greyhound incident or any incident where someone has mailed a bomb to someone else, there are plenty of nutcases to go around in this world. I'm putting my money on an isolated incident by someone with an ax to grind against the tab. They probably have tons of them. Maybe it was the bat boy.

Why the mail? Because it is ubiquitous and everyone can identify with getting mail. We all open mail nearly every day from companies and people we don't know. Some offer us free wealth, other yet another credit card, some are asking for money or support for one organization or another. It would be fairly easy to bury something like this in the avalanche of junkmail that the nation receives every day.

Why not a mail bomb? Because a biohazard is much more frightening. If this is about terror, biological terror is much more frightening than mail bombs. If a terror organization gets their hands on a large supply of anthrax spores, the cost of delivery is also pennies compared to the cost and sophistication of a million mail bombs.

Can anthrax spores survive in a letter? Absolutely. Anthrax spores can lie in the soil for many years. One of the things that makes anthrax attractive as a bioagent is it's ability to lie dormant in the spore state and not require a host to survive. Many other biological agents would not survive outside a host - as indeed is the case with anthrax once the host is infected and the bacillus has left the spore state.

Why the tabloid publisher? This could easily be a single event and a targeted attack from the bat boy or any of a million other people that are pissed at tabloid journalists. Would also not be a bad place to test this delivery mechanism - where you know there are likely to be many people who handle a single piece of mail, and your chances of getting at least one are high. The mail will all be opened - which might not be the case at a residence; it certainly is not the case at mine.

It will be interesting to see where the unidentified woman worked and if she had a mail-room connection as the second man did.

The one thing that anthrax has against it as a terrorist weapon is it's inability to spread from one person to another. This makes it less interesting than say small pox, which kills 30% of those infected and can easily spread from one person to another. The small pox biohazard is something that one person working at a McDonalds could easily spread. Imagine the terrorist infected with small pox who is assembling your hamburger, making sure he licks the bun. You become infected and spread this to your family and friends, and before you know it, you have a major epidemic. No major biohazard delivery system needed. Dark Winter indeed.

-t