I did a experiment where on from Jan 1 to 31 I sent all my spam to a special folder. For the month of January I got 6554 Spam. I use Cloudmark software which identified 90% of them. The problem I have is that all these spams have be downloaded to my PC before cloudmark software can work.

Does any one know of a service / email hositng provider who can download my emails, scan for Spam and then I download the filtered emails.

Jay

Spamassassin works great!

http://www.spamassassin.org

I use Spamcop + ORDB blocklists and any messages coming in from a listed server gets "[SPAM]" added to the subject line.

Then procmail runs spamprobe (spamprobe.sourceforge.net I think) on all incoming mail using bayesian filtering (it learns) and it marks any spam with [SPAMPROBE] in the subject.

Then I have a rule that looks for [SPAM] or [SPAMPROBE] in the subject in procmail and if either or both exists, that email gets put into a "Spam Detected" folder in Imap.

Any spam that "gets through" I drop into "Spam" and once per day spamprobe chews that folder and adds keywords/phrases to its knowledge database so next time an email "like" the one I put in Spam comes in it most likely gets marked spam properly.

I also have some rules for really blatant spams that just deletes them outright.

I see about 6 spam per day (all of those get sent to spamcop) and some I put in "Spam" some I don't since they're obviously written in such a way to poison your spam filter (using random words, or words that are likely to be legitimate so when your filter "learns" on them it'll start marking false positives). Emails with this nasty technique I make darn sure gets reported to spamcop.

If I had more hours per day to learn the proper etiquette for nanae I'd probably start reporting there too.

The problem is all these are client software that force you to download teh spam to your pc before it can decide if its spam or not. I am looking for a hosted server side solution

Jay

Server side blocking is dangerous, every once in a while a legitimate email is marked as spam.

I wouldn't trust any provider with deciding for me what is or isn't spam, and heck I AM a provider and I wouldn't do that myself.

Actually my procmail WOULD stop it server side, just have to change the line that puts "SPAM" into "Spam Detected" into "/dev/null" :)

i agree...but my understnading is that their are server side offering that will put spams into some folder where i can take a look at later.....I tavel a lot and most of the time its dial up access...so downloading 200 - 300 mails (of which 90% are spam) is some thing I am trying to avoid.

what spam filter would i use for outlook express?

you can try cloudmark (www.cloudmark.com) they might stop 60% of spam or so (in outlook express), but even the obvious ones that would get marked by any server side spam filter are let through (because its p2p, not a filter).

cloudmark + server side filters seems to be working pretty well for me, i only get maybe one spam email per week :)

thanks, i'll try it out.

I recieve a few SPAM messages a week, I find it really supriseing that I'm not recieveing more than I am. I don't use any blocking software at all either, I guess I'm just lucky.

Originally posted by 93.3
I recieve a few SPAM messages a week, I find it really supriseing that I'm not recieveing more than I am. I don't use any blocking software at all either, I guess I'm just lucky.

Just pop into usenet sometime and use your email in a signature and watch the spam fly!

Originally posted by 93.3
I recieve a few SPAM messages a week, I find it really supriseing that I'm not recieveing more than I am. I don't use any blocking software at all either, I guess I'm just lucky. What is your email address? I'll take care of it for you.

:D

Originally posted by johnnyb3
you can try cloudmark (www.cloudmark.com) they might stop 60% of spam or so (in outlook express), but even the obvious ones that would get marked by any server side spam filter are let through (because its p2p, not a filter).

cloudmark + server side filters seems to be working pretty well for me, i only get maybe one spam email per week :)

The problem with cloudmark (which i use now) is that it has to download all the emails to the pc before and then it sorts whats spam and whats not. They have a server product but I dont want to install that considering its just for one person.

We suggest you use postini email filtering

Why do you suggest postini? We are currently looking into it.

Greetings:

We use a number of real time black hole lists to prevent a large portion of spam from hitting our servers.

We also use Spam Assassin to take what spam does hit our servers and tag it as such so that our customers can filter such tagged messages to a review folder or the trash can.

Thank you.

SPAM Assassin and the Outlook 2003 SPAM filter work very well for me. I don't even check the SPAM box on the server. I delete it once a month to free up the space.

Originally posted by TheFish
SPAM Assassin and the Outlook 2003 SPAM filter work very well for me. I don't even check the SPAM box on the server. I delete it once a month to free up the space.

I stay away from any Hotmail or Yahoo account.

I also have two email addresses, so when I put my email address on the net, like a BB board or a purchase, I have one I use exclusively. Although everyone says they don't sell your email, I get a lot of spam in that box, and I go through and delete it all every 2 weeks.

Also, on my website my email is encoded, so bots can grab it.

Like the Fish, Spam Assassin does a great job, and those few that do get through, Outlooks Spam filtering does a great job.

I get maybe 2 pieces a Spam a month, and have never lost an email that I know of.

Here's something that works wonders for the client.

http://www.spamihilator.com/

spamassassin got my vote

Someone else posted about spamcop. (Go to www.spamcop.net and look for links about email; the email service split off from the spamcop service a couple of years ago, but they are both reached through that page.)

I use spamcop, and have for quite a few years. I see rougly 1000 spam messages a week; about 50 (5%) will get through the filter, and about 1-2 will get trapped incorrectly.

FYI, it primarily blocks sending servers that have a reputation for allowing spam, if you use their default settings. It optionally blocks mail from countries that send lots of spam, and optionally uses a handful of other blacklists. It also optionally filters using spamassassin; except for that, none of the filters look at content at all.

Any blocked mail is only sorted into a suspected spam folder.

I POP the presumably good email using Outlook. The rest, I view using their interface that lists each message, the actual sending account, ths subject, and the reason it was trapped. That interface lets me review any individual message as ascii text, or I can delete, release and whitelist, release without whitelisting, and other options including some for reporting.

They also offer a webmail interface.

Bill

I use the SpamCop/SpamAssassain combo myself. Haven't seen a single spam message for a month now ... as shocking as that may sound.

Currently using Cloudmark's SpamNet plugin for OE. Does a pretty decent job, I'd say catches about 75% of my spam. On occassion 5-6 will get through, but for the most part it removes them.

Regards,
Waylon

I personally use and recommend K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html) for help with spam.

The "McNorton" packages left a pretty horrible taste in my mouth, as did most of the server-side utilities, so I tried K9 out with a couple of personal accounts long before I ran business mail through it.

I set it up to add a marker to the subject line of suspected spam - [Spam 94%] showing the likelihood that it is actually spam. You can also configure it to just add a line to the message header instead.

After you've used it for a bit and are comfortable with it, you can just set up a rule with your email client and have suspected spam filtered into a new directory, delete it, etc.

I'm using with the Bat email client, setup as a proxy, and chained with an antivirus proxy and I've never been as happy with my email system.