If you do, I'd like to hear your comments; it's the strongest candidate for my purchase, since the SONY F828 has serious chromatic issues.

I have not used it yet but the specs and price is great and it definitely is my next purchase.

But hope the following helps :-

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/

http://computertimes.asia1.com.sg/specials/story/0,5104,1924,00.html?

I do not own it, but i do own two Canon products, i used to swear by them, but i'm borderline now.

I own the A40, which batteries last for 7 months during regular use, then i own the A70 which needs batteries every 10 shots (No joke). When i called Canon, they said that is normal.

Besides that, the camera is great, i love Canon's and will only buy Canons from now on.

What batteries were you using ? The Alkaline batteries are not going to cut it. Li-ON batteries are definitely required, I never use anything under 1800mAh

Yes, I have read the reviews and seen the great quality of the pictures and the features are great; I was wondering if you do own the camera what feedback you'd post :D

timechange go with the 10D
i have seen and used both cameras
the rebel feels like crap
althought it is light weight, the plastic on it.. feels cheap
the 10D, on the other hand, feels like a "real camera"
they are almost the same price...
you can get a 10D for about 1100 these days

Both cameras use Accu "Energizer" rechargeables 1600mh.

I also have a set of Maxell 1850mh rechargeables, but i'm not sure if i can charge them in my Energizer charger (It does both kinds of charges)

ilyash, you have used both? The 10D is $1,500 just for the body. The 300D comes with a rather nice lens for $999.

Oh, by the way, this is a great review site :)

http://www.steves-digicams.com/

*Groan* I know that. And Dpreview.com

I was asking if anyone here owns the camera. I trust you guys here more ;) :D

timechange..
1079 here..
quick google ..
http://royalcamera.com/eos10d.html
also..
i have the lenses
and these cameras are high-end
so one would usually use their own high end lenses w/ them
i have a bunch of lenses from my analog SLR
so.. im going to go with the 10D

Originally posted by ilyash
timechange..
1079 here..
quick google ..
http://royalcamera.com/eos10d.html
also..
i have the lenses
and these cameras are high-end
so one would usually use their own high end lenses w/ them
i have a bunch of lenses from my analog SLR
so.. im going to go with the 10D

Yeah but see the review?
http://www.shopbizrate.co.uk/ratings_guide/cust_reviews__mid--31276,rf--wgg.html

Is the 300D the Digital Rebel?

If so, I own and use it! :) I'm not a professional photographer so I don't know (yet) the ins and outs of it. All I know is that it takes really good pictures, it's fast, and the lens that's included is excellent. Auto-focus is awesome.

There are more features that I haven't explored yet...

Yes, Op that's the Digital Rebel "pack". I was too sold on the image quality. I think I will go for it next week. And man, read the reviews on Royalcamera.com above, you will freak out :D

damn.. timechange.. thanks for that review..
what a crappy business they have
they should be shut down by the BBB

LOL I have never seen so many negative posts for a company: 93% negative reviews in the past 3 months! Reminds me of the good old days when Timmah was r@ping WHT :D

I have the Digital Rebel and really like it. Just be careful that you will buy a lot of accessoires over time; I bought three additional lenses.

Here are some photos:
http://dealexpert.net/at/IMG_0792.jpg
http://dealexpert.net/at/IMG_1361.jpg

Royal's storefront actually doesn't look too bad...

http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0009.htm

-but this is a great site to check up on Brooklyn camera stores...

http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/

Some are a bit suspect...

Esupersale, d.b.a. Best Buy Digital (http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0019.htm)
A&M Photo World LLC (http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0049.htm)

Sometimes it's better not knowing. Ohh, and one for Manhattan Stores as well...

http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/ManhattanStores/

Originally posted by DealExpert
I have the Digital Rebel and really like it. Just be careful that you will buy a lot of accessoires over time; I bought three additional lenses.

Here are some photos:
http://dealexpert.net/at/IMG_0792.jpg
http://dealexpert.net/at/IMG_1361.jpg

These are superb photos!
Which lenses/additional gear did you invest on?

Canon 50mm lens, Tamron 24-135mm lens, and Sigma 70-300mm APO lens. There are many more expensive and better lenses I would like to have but I am a college student and can't afford them right now.

The Sigma lens was only $154. I used it to take the two photos posted here.

Thanks. Great pics. And I heard good things about the Tamron.

The Tamron lens is a great allround lens and I use it most of the time. The Sigma is good for the Zoo or the park when you want to take animal photos. The kit lens is good for landscape images. The Canon 50mm F/1.8 is good in the afternoon when it is a little too dark for the other lenses.

Thanks for the tips, I appreciate it.

DealExpert,
The two pictures you took -- were they the lenses or some sort of effect? I'm curious on how you got the "unimportant" parts blurred out. Mind sharing the info? :D

Low aperture setting Operator. I'm not sure how detailed the lens(es) you have are, but the markings on the lens (all those lines that most people are clueless as to what they mean) tell you what is and what isn't going to be in focus. Also known as depth of field.

Thanks Chicken! :D I'm going to have to look into that!

Originally posted by timechange.com
Yes, Op that's the Digital Rebel "pack". I was too sold on the image quality. I think I will go for it next week. And man, read the reviews on Royalcamera.com above, you will freak out :D

Where are you planning on buying this? I bought mine at Fry's Electonics ( http://www.outpost.com) with a five year warranty. The total was ~$1300 (Camera Pack + Warranty + 128MB CF).

Yes, however I am looking into Newegg.com

More than you ever wanted to know (for those who are interested in learning more about photography)...

Basics:

A properly exposed picture relies on two things. The shutter speed and the aperture setting. The shutter opens and closes, it is timed (often in fractions of a second, 1/200th, 1/400th, 1/800th of a second). The aperture is like your eye, it gets wider or smaller. These two values can be adjusted and a variety of combinations can produce a properly exposed picture, but the various combinations have different effects.

Shutter Speed:

When you want to freeze fast action, you want a fast shutter speed. To get that, you often have to open the lens up to let the most light in that you can. If you want the action to blur, you'd want to a slower shutter speed, and thus you'd have to close the lens down to keep less light from coming in during the longer exposure. So basically, shutter speed affects movement, freezing fast action or blurring the action.

Aperture:

The higher the aperture number, the less light gets into the lens (smaller the lens opening). The lower the aperture number, the more light gets into the lens (wider the lens opening). Aperture affects depth of field (as does subject distance and focal length).

Depth of Field:

The easiest way to learn about it is with a typically standard 50mm lens and a standard 35mm camera. Two things complicate understanding even further. One, zoom lenses. Two, digital cameras with non-digital lenses. The Rebel's lens (the one that comes in the package you got), *may* have correct markings, since it was designed to be used with the Rebel, but I'm not sure about that. The markings on a lens designed for a tradtional film camera will be off.

See attached photo.

Just in general, you see four horizontal rows of numbers.

Top light-blue row - distance in feet (1.2 ft to infinity).
Second row from top - distance in meters (ignore this row for now).
Third row - range of aperture (goes from 22 to 4 and then from 4 back to 22).
Fourth row - aperture ring (what you'd actually turn to set the aperture).

The lens above (fourth row) goes from AE 22 16 8 5.6 4 3.5 (AE is Automatic Exposure). This is what you turn to set the aperture. You can see the depth of field (what will be in focus) above. For example, Look at the third row and the range (in feet) for 4 (commonly listed as "f4"). It goes from 2 1/2 feet to about 5 feet. That's what will be in focus (or specifically, as sharp as the sharpest point). Anything less than 2 1/2 feet and more than 5 will be out of focus (especially things much closer and much farther than 2 1/2 feet and 5 feet). If you were to stop the lens down (close it up, choose a higher aperture number) such as f16, you can see that you'll now get everything from 1.4 feet to infinity in focus.

Now the interesting thing is, now that you know the range (distance from x feet to x feet) that will be in focus, you can shift this area in front or behind your subject. This is more advanced, and if I was there, I'd be able to show you. It's best to understand the basics first.

After typing all that, I found this and it explains it in a more concise way...

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/Glossary/Optical/Depth_of_field_01.htm

Once again, thank you for the information Chicken. I was searching the internet for more information on aperture settings but I couldn't find any very reliable information. The information you provided was just what I needed.

Your expertise is greatly appreciated.

No problem. I've been into photgraphy since I was 7 years old, studied it in college, and owned a photography business... so if there's anything you need to know, I'll try to help.

It's hard to sumarize it in a short, easy to understand format.

I use the 10d with vert grip and put next to a rebel it certainly feels better and more robust, but yeah the rebel is a great camera for the price. as much as i hate to reccomend the darkside the nikon d70 should be out soon for a little more then the 300, the 10d is more expensive but its worth every penny:) one major point in favour of the 300d is the efs mount lenses so you can do wide angle shots cheaper, but its noisier, slower, doesnt have ai servo in all modes (so not as good for sports shooting in anything but the idiot sports mode) and dang its silver :(

Well I just came back from Best Buy and Circuit City; none carries the EOS300D at the store (they do online) and they charge a restocking fee of 15% if you return it. There is no way I am buying the EOS300D if it doesn't feel right. On the other hand, I handled the SONY F828 and it's awesome. Of course it has received some extensive reviews about chromatic aberrations and purple fringing.

Both stores had the Rebel 2000 and Ti and they both felt very light and plasticky. Also the lens ring felt very cheap and wobbly.

timechange,
Does CompUSA have it in store? [ http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=306768&pfp=srch1&ref=performics ]

I'll call and check - probably will drop by on Monday. Thanks Op.

nikon have an 8mp consumer digital out to go against the dark angel (f828) so i would check that out as it would seem the DA is ridden with problems. The 300d will still be a large leap ahead in quality from the DA though. Plus its the start of a system you can expand greatly. With a consumer digital if your lucky you can add a minor lenses extension for telephone \ wide angle, you might be able to use a basic external flash, and you can often get adapters for filters, but with a dslr you have a huge range of accessories, adavnced flashes, everything from 8mm to 1200mm lenses. Depends if you need the flexibility and if its worth the cost. Plus dof will be better on the rebel because it has a larger sensor (without getting too technical the dof for any given apateur increases as the area of the sensor decreases). Plus theres less pincussion \ barrel distortion and chromatic abberations on more expensive slr lenses (cheap ones i guess can be as bad) but basically its down to if you need the quality and flexibility? good luck:)

I hear ya, Richy. So far I haven't handled an EOS 300D and I don't like lightweight cameras. The SONY F828 felt just right IMO but I would only buy it as a secondary camera and it'd have to be $200+ cheaper.

the 10d has a stronger feel to it, being metal etc but still doesnt feel right till you add a vert grip.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012805nikoncp8700.asp is the new nikon (add the battery pack \ vgrip and its going to be fairly sturdy i think), and theresd always the d70 coming, and refurbed canon d30 \ d60's on ebay probably even 10d's by now. Just make sure they have had the shutter replaced. (oh and pentax just slashed a load off the * ist D, and theres a firmware upgrade out for it hopefully which turns it into a canon or nikon).

Thanks for the link. One thing that Nikon does better than Canon is tech support :)

I waited long enough for the SONY f828, only to be disappointed; I can wait a little longer if it's going to be worth it. I think that the EOS 300D produces top-notch results so I might be tempted still.

np, one issue with nikons , or at least that used to be i think was nikon had to do firmware upgrades , you couldnt do them yourself on the dslrs, not that i think that would be an issue now. Have you see the fuji s5000 & s7000? 3\6 and 6\12 mp (real \ superccd setting) with a 10x and 6x zoom for pretty decent money. I used to have the s602 and it was a great camera.

Yeah I tested the S7000 and it's a nice piece of hardware; images are a little oversaturated and have noise though. I think I will take the plunge with the EOS - somebody hide my credit card :D

fujis always were ott on saturation, nice on landscapes, pants on portraits. good luck:)

"Pants" eh :D That's completely hatstand :)

I remember when I first used Fuji film 20+ years ago how bright the colors were compared to Kodak.

Originally posted by richy
nice on landscapes, pants on portraits.

Heh, confused me there for a minute. I thought you meant that it was nice on landscapes and portaits in which the subject's pants were on, and was wondering what exactly what type of photography you were involved with. ;)

The 10D has some features the 300D's lacking, and I've never been too partial towards the 300D's silvery plastic coating. If you're investing in an expensive camera, I'd go all out if you can afford it. (If not, the 300D looks like a great camera too.)

The other thing is that the lens that comes with the 300D isn't all that great. I've been eyeing the 300D/10D for a while, as I'm rather sick of my horrendous point-and-shoot digicam, which seems programmed to always pick the worst possible combination of settings, ensuring my photos are always blurry, improperly exposed, and in some really weird white balance. The thing that bugs me most, though, is that my camera's got a really slow lens, and tops out at ISO 400. Consequently, I miss a lot of great shots; the 10D can go to ISO 3200 I believe (though not without a fair bit of noise), and a 50 mm f/1.8 lens is about $100; I could get so many shots that I can't with my camera now.

You seem to be good at checking reviews, but I'd advise you to buy whatever you buy somewhere reputable. My friend bought the D30 back when it was over $2,000; he found a nice place that could save him a couple hundred bucks. I forget exactly what they did, but they had some really shady practices that left him paying even more than he would if he bought it somewhere reputable.