View Full Version : Latest IE security flaw may be "unfixable"
hostpath.com 01-28-2004, 11:33 AM Or so says this article:
http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=displaynews&NewsID=944
I know how to fix the security hole: install Mozilla and quit using IE.
websterworld 01-28-2004, 11:39 AM I knew that all the time.
The previous spoofing problem allowed Explorer users to think they were visiting one site when in fact they were visiting somewhere entirely different.
Explorer 6 users (and possibly users of earlier versions) could be fooled into downloading what look like safe files but are in fact whatever the author wishes them to be - including executables.
SO...
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
Is actually not a real microsoft windows update site. its a spoffed site.
So when you think that your downloading updates and "Security fixes" it is infact viruses.
so windows is not really that bad.
right?
windows is not REALLY that bad...
7de5igns 01-28-2004, 11:50 AM I agree drop your IE and install mozilla.. it might just be the best thing you've done.
websterworld 01-28-2004, 11:54 AM Originally posted by 7de5igns
I agree drop your IE and install mozilla.. it might just be the best thing you've done.
just to correct hostpath and you:
Install mozilla Firebird.
Version 0.7+ (0.8 really) with the installer... to be exact. ;)
Davros 01-28-2004, 11:58 AM Windows has become my disposable OS these days anyway. I run basic protection such as a fire wall, NAV, SpyBot and the like but if it gets curupt so what? I'll just wipe and reload. No biggie.
Linux has become my primary OS.
Don't get me wrong. Windows has it's purpose but I no longer rely on it. This does not mean that I am jumping on Websters missinformed opinion and his misinformation campaign to spoil Windows.
Especially since I've probably been using Windows since before he was born.
websterworld 01-28-2004, 12:11 PM Davros, I'm going to try and be mature about this.
Did you actually pay money for windows 1.0?
Just a friendly Q'....
Vox Hosting 01-28-2004, 01:41 PM Windows 1.0?
ilyash 01-28-2004, 02:00 PM yeah.. it looked more like a mac OS..
cmon you had to see it..
I heard that one went well hidden from the majority. Personally, I've never seen 1.0. I've seen screenshots of 2.0, and then a bit of 3.1, but really started using Windows 95. Oh, I used DOS, too. I remember the good old days ... Norton Commander... you know, you can still get it and it runs very well, too. Search some abandonware sites...
Max
viGeek 01-28-2004, 03:15 PM Welcome to the wonderfull world that is microsoft.
hostpath.com 01-28-2004, 03:16 PM This page includes a Windows 1.0 screen shot:
http://www.ug.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr/~farukg/yazilar/histwindows.htm
Dan L 01-28-2004, 03:24 PM I'm just interested in how long Microsoft will take to release a patch, if at all..
rockergrrl 01-28-2004, 05:06 PM Originally posted by websterworld
I knew that all the time.
SO...
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
Is actually not a real microsoft windows update site. its a spoffed site.
So when you think that your downloading updates and "Security fixes" it is infact viruses.
so windows is not really that bad.
right?
windows is not REALLY that bad...
I'm glad I use the WU beta site to update everything (I'm a MS beta tester, luckily).
Speaking of updating the spoof... they're working on it. It was mentioned at the TS2 event I attended last week.
net-trend 01-28-2004, 05:13 PM Originally posted by hostpath.com
I know how to fix the security hole: install Mozilla and quit using IE.
Woo hoo! Another one see's the light! :D
Davros 01-28-2004, 10:19 PM Webster:
I started using computers in 1982. My first computer was a TImex Sinclair, from that I went to a TI-99/4a. My first 'real' PC was an IBM 8086 Which did not even have a hard drive. The first version of Windows I used was Windows 2.0 which I had installed on a 286 in 1988. At the time I used my Atari 800/XL or my 130/XE more than anything since the pricing for the Atari was more practical. PCs were still the rich mans toy and I was far from rich. Most of my PC stuff was all hand me downs.
I still have the original MS-DOS 3.0 floppies and the Windows 2.0 floppies hidden away in storage. Although I seriously doubt they'd still work and I don't even own a 5-1/4" floppy drive anymore to test them.
hostpath.com 01-28-2004, 10:36 PM I started on a TTY terminal connected to an IBM 370. The first micro I worked on was an Altair 8800 with an 8" floppy drive. You had to use toggle switches on the front of the box to enter about 32 lines of HEX code to get it to boot the floppy.
The first PC I ever personally owned was an Apple II Plus. Ah, the good old Motorola 6502 CPU. It was on that machine I learned to program in assembler. I still have it, and it still works!
The memories...
:disagree: IE
:agree: FireBird
If someone checks the webserver logs this post was written by IE 6 :roll2: :crazy:
offtopic but, Thunderbird > Outlook ! :cool:
hycloud 01-29-2004, 01:23 AM Just use Firebird. Works great on both Mac and Windows.
Rich2k 01-29-2004, 05:49 AM I still use IE most of the time. Until you manage to convert 90% of the browsing public to change their minds they won't switch... and probably about 50% of those have no idea what a browser is, they just click a button to connect to the Internet and IE pops up.
Ronald_Craft 01-29-2004, 12:26 PM Looks like IE has another exploit. And this one can be combined with the phishing exploit.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/37987
I'm sure if the majority of people used mozilla and or firebird, we would find flaws too. The reason IE has more security holes is because more people are looking to exploit the majority.
These constant MS is horrible, they have bad security... blah blah blah comments are always the same. In the end, people trying to hack or exploit computers are always going to go after the most popular operating system and it's components.
Informity 01-29-2004, 01:57 PM case, i think you'll find that most microsoft products are insecure by design. the guys at mozilla do a damn good job, and because the code is open source, any holes are caught pretty fast by other developers or community members.
The various flavours of unix(*bsd, mac os x, solaris etc.) and the clones (linux) are the most common server OS by a large margin. Compare the number of linux security issues to windows problems.
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