MsRoxie
10-08-2001, 09:32 PM
As anyone else had problems with them? I have had nothing but problems and they finally cancelled my account without notice. I am waiting for a refund, and will definitely take legal action if I don't recieve one.
![]() | View Full Version : 2mhost MsRoxie 10-08-2001, 09:32 PM As anyone else had problems with them? I have had nothing but problems and they finally cancelled my account without notice. I am waiting for a refund, and will definitely take legal action if I don't recieve one. JBIZ718 10-08-2001, 09:50 PM My Question to you is that you will take legal action Is it even worth it. My attorney for my company costs about $150 per hour. For me to sue someone it must be very my while.... How much did you spend Joe MsRoxie 10-08-2001, 09:58 PM My attorney has told me that if I have enough people I can start a class action ...I think he said...and he will help me for free. He has been my attorney for years. I paid 61 $, but from what I am seeing...they are cancelling a lot of accounts and keeping the money. Do you think I should sit on my bum and let them keep the money?:eek: JBIZ718 10-08-2001, 10:00 PM If you cant get your money back A chargeback will solve the issue. I dont think you will get much money from them. I mean you paid 61$. The most you will get is your money back, which you can get back from a chargeback Sueing someone is not always the best solution. All they have to do is file a Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and you wont see a dime. Also per there Terms Of Use UNLIMITED USE POLICY High bandwidth usage: 2MHost Inc. offers an unlimited use policy by maintaining very large ratios of bandwidth per customer. In rare cases, 2MHost Inc. may find a customer to be using server resources to such an extent that he or she may jeopardize server performance and resources for other customers. In such instances, 2MHost Inc. reserves the right to impose the High Resource User Policy for the consideration of all customers. You can run any CGI and non-CGI scripts you desire, however we reserve the right to disable anyscript that dramatically affects server performance. We currently do not allow IRC or IRC bots to be operated on our servers. We are proud to offer our clients non-restricted data transfer. This is considered any transfer ofinformation in the form of text or graphic, directly readable by a web browser. Our intention is to provide a large storage space to serve web documents, not an off-site storage area for electronic files. All web pages (HTML) must be 'linked' with files (.GIF, .JPEG, etc.) that are stored on ourservers. Web sites that are found to contain either/or no HTML documents or a large number or large sizes (over 500Kb) of unlinked files are subject to warning, suspension or cancellation at the discretion of 2MHost Inc.'s administration. As a note, over 85% of our clients never exceed even 2000 megs of total FTP and web page transfer combined, so you can be assured that our bandwidth is not choked by numerous 'load-heavy' sites. To further protect the integrity of our service, any individual site consistently using 10% or more of the system's resources may be issued a warning or have its account deactivated. I mean if you break there rules you get cancelled, its pretty simple Joe MsRoxie 10-08-2001, 10:13 PM what does that have to do with me getting my money back? They said I would get it so I expect it. Even if I don't, I don't want anyone else to go through the hassles I have. If you don't have a problem with them, then this message was not directed towards you. I just wondered if anyone else has problems, because I HAVE...and have since the day I switched to them. Palm 10-08-2001, 10:35 PM Why would you need an attorney for such simple case. I'm sure you can handle it. sPoT! 10-09-2001, 01:09 AM There is that word again... Unlimited:blush: (RH) 10-09-2001, 01:43 AM Well, if I'm looking at the right site, they have this in their "new news" section NEW SERVERS: we proudly announce the launching of new servers with the latest configuration in the industry. They must have some money if they are "launching" new servers. 2Mhost 10-09-2001, 08:30 AM hello, yes we canceled "MsRoxie" account because: 1. put a lot of adult material pix and movies 2. put a full copy of Macromedia Dreamweaver in public link .. anyone can download it .. without even a site subsription 3. tons of MP3z and unlinked files. please take a look: http://www.2mhost.com/terms.html we suspend the account .. after a promiss to move this material we reactivate the account ... upon the activation the server load jump form under 1 to 25 : 30 for 12 hours .... by cheking the logs we found the user run unlimited loop of MySQL operations. i suspend the account again to save other sites and over all we refund this man so what I did wrong? :angry: M. Noman 2Mhost.com Admin Asher S 10-09-2001, 09:42 AM LOL!!! unlimited transfer -- yeah right! Noman where on earth do you get unlimited transfer? please tell me id like to get that for my own servers. And your chillisoft asp has been comming soon since you launched and so have your servers. - Asher. MCHost-Marc 10-09-2001, 09:59 AM Originally posted by 2Mhost upon the activation the server load jump form under 1 to 25 : 30 for 12 hours .... by cheking the logs we found the user run i'm wondering what server can handle a load of 30 for 12 hours. 2mhost.com is the same company as win2000hoster.com - both offer unlimited transfer. that should explain this part. lets leave this aside since we don't want another flaming thread. on the other side ...an attorney won't be able to help you much. for those $1.50/month (obviously a fraud) or how much you paid its not worth the trouble. look for a new host, transfer your site and forget about it. :) Asher S 10-09-2001, 10:09 AM The $1.5 does'nt seem feasible somehow. How on earth can a webhost give away 50 mb and 'unlimited transfer (lets assume its 2GB)' @ $1.5? The price for bandwidth is $2 (thats what I get) and webspace is.... well no way that cheap! Even if these guys break bulk, it still means that they're operating in loss. And after deductions from 2checkout (thats what they use for CC processing) these guys end up with: 1.5$ * 5.5% minus 45 cents == 0.9675. Even if they sell a hundred accounts a month (unlikely) they only end up with 96 dollars. Which cannot possibly cover bandwidth costs. How can they operate at that cost? Regards, Asher. Chicken 10-09-2001, 10:15 AM Originally posted by MsRoxie I have had nothing but problems and they finally cancelled my account without notice. I am waiting for a refund, and will definitely take legal action if I don't recieve one. Did you happen to leave out the part that Norman stated (the adult pix, movies, Dreamweaver, MP3s, etc.)? I ask, as this would have explained the 'problems' you have been having. If the account was cancelled without notice due to server resources, then you can start a class action and hire the dream team (defended OJ Simpson), but won't see a dime once those logs come out as evidence. Edit: And ^Kyo, let's keep this thread on track. I think it goes without saying about 'the other stuff' you mentioned. 2Mhost 10-09-2001, 01:13 PM hello, no one answer me ! what i did wrong for this man? i cant accept warez or adult on my server or to kill server performance. by the way .. all ppl ask about unlimited bandwidth .. i have my comment: We get 10:20 order daily and sometimes more in addtion to our megares plan start with $48/monthly. so we launch a new box each 40:45 day .. our target is the newbie user and small webmasters so we place about 500 : 600 domain in each dual PIII server. how much Gb bandwidth do you think this kind of users can made each month? i tell you .. 20:50 Gb/mo .. how much this cost? and how much you get from your daily orders ?? this useres pay less and very happey ... me 2 MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 01:14 PM First I am ma'am which I keep stating...but I did have a PHP portal where members were allowed to upload the graphics they created for others to use free. Someone abused this and uploaded a warez file that I was unaware of...2mhost NEVER contacted me and shut me down. It took me 4 emails to get a real answer from them. He (they) agreed to reopen the account if I took down the file. There was no way tons of MP3 or unlinked files. Why would you agree to reopen the account if I took down the link then? I took it down and had to fix tons of corrupted files and then 12 hours later I was shut down again without any warning or reason. I had to email YOU for an explanation. Adult pix and movies??!! There were NO movies and one picture in blog of a comic where a guy had a fake woman in the bed with him and i stated that I couldn't understand why someone would do something like that. Again, it would have been wonderful if I was given some warning, but the administrator visited my site, signed up for an account (since this is the only way to get into the download section) and explained to me that if I took down the link that was in the download section I would be reactiviated. Well, I did all that. MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 01:16 PM by cheking the logs we found the user run unlimited loop of MySQL operations. ----- what does that mean? MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 01:19 PM This is your exact response to me: i reactivated your account .. you have to do 1 thing .. remove the download link from your page and monitor your account well and dont use the space for downloads or files storage .. please -------------- Nothing about MP3's or anything Adult?? MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 01:23 PM Originally posted by Kiwi on the other side ...an attorney won't be able to help you much. for those $1.50/month (obviously a fraud) or how much you paid its not worth the trouble. look for a new host, transfer your site and forget about it. :) Thanks Kiwi, I will, but I just think the way they go about things is very unprofessional. 2Mhost 10-09-2001, 01:29 PM sorry .. my last comment here ... this man have a folder for adult material with sufolders for each category .. hardcore, lesbians, ....,... this subfolders was driven by php pages i think someone uploaded it and he didnt know :) :) :) again .. i refunded this man .. i have no problem MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 01:33 PM Originally posted by 2Mhost sorry .. my last comment here ... this man have a folder for adult material with sufolders for each category .. hardcore, lesbians, ....,... this subfolders was driven by php pages i think one user upload it and he was unaware :) :) :) again .. i refunded this man .. i have no problem I am a woman! but you're kidding right? See this was not told to me at all! Like I told you I had 4 administrators and I was in the process of going through the files on my site when I was shut down again. I posted on the main page (of my site) that I was checking everything and anyone found to be posting links (in the forum) or adding ANYTHING illegal would be deleted. hmmm. I wish I had known any of this. But your emails to me were all one-liners and never hinted at any of this. Also, will I be able to get any backups. 2Mhost 10-09-2001, 01:44 PM sorry .. i wasnt kidding the url have this tons of adult was: http://www.dayum.net/monkeyevil/x/ .... ask your 4 admins about this folder .. i think ppl here gave up with us ... so you can email me better and i cant open your account again to save server ,, sorry MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 01:51 PM ha! this is so funny cause that folder was deleted after I was reactivated. That was a folder I couldn't check cause it was gone. I thought he deleted everything.....did your company delete his files. no, no...i don't want to reopen my account (i have moved it already), but i just wanted to be sure i get my money and backups and i still was not sure of the reasons...this thread has made me see a little ... although I still wish I could have been notified & i wish you had not deleted "these files" so that i could have seen. my administrator said he had no adult movies. MsRoxie 10-09-2001, 02:10 PM Originally posted by 2Mhost by the way .. all ppl ask about unlimited bandwidth .. i have my comment: so we launch a new box each 40:45 day .. our target is the newbie user and small webmasters so we place about 500 : 600 domain in each dual PIII server. how much Gb bandwidth do you think this kind of users can made each month? It doesn't say in your terms that the target is newbies or small webmasters. And I never went above my bandwidth. I think you should put in your terms that you don't want your users to be very small businesses or newbies. Asher S 10-09-2001, 02:12 PM 2mhost (Noman), You cant really justify your servers having unlimited bandwidth -- because there is no such thing, as your datapipe has a 'fixed width' otherwise you'd have a magical data pipe. OK and what about customers which use 20GB of transfer??? Do you cut them off because of using that much? If so then you are nothing but a fraud. Dont go around offering things which are not possible in the real world -- I dunno about the world you live in, it apparently seems to be an unreal universe where you can magically offer unlimited stuff like transfer and bandwidth. You should pray everyday that you dont get sued or something. Even if you get 20 signups a day which seems unlikely you still cannot afford to give each person a minimum of 1GB. By the by -- who provides you bandwidth?? Regads, Asher. 2Mhost 10-09-2001, 04:42 PM ^Kyo please read my messages again .. my customers made 20 : 50 Gb /mo for each box most of sites is personal sites or for small companies, just about %2 of customers made more than 2Gb/mo and %3.5 made more than 1Gb %85 of customers made less than 100Kb/mo ! .. and if someone made more under our terms and conditions is very welcome .. in dayum.net case we cancel the account not because of band width (he use our servers for 3 months each mont made about 5Gb/mo without problem) i canceled it baiscally for using MySQL operation kill the server .. this is my right and she get her full money after 3 months of services. i refund her not because i feel that i did somthing wrong ..NO i did to forget about this so what the problem now? anyway i'm happy to see long thread about our small site _______________________ kind regards M. Noman http://www.2mHost.com.com <<MOD NOTE:>> Please set up an actual signature (see profile). <</MOD NOTE>> Asher S 10-09-2001, 11:29 PM "anyway i'm happy to see long thread about our small site" Why do you always say that? And you still did not clearly answer my question... would you or would you not cancel a persons account who uses 20GB of transfer per month? And by the way -- its a known fact that you cancel accounts and then you keep the money like you did with my cousin. Regards, Asher. MCHost-Marc 10-10-2001, 01:31 AM Originally posted by 2Mhost how much Gb bandwidth do you think this kind of users can made each month? doesn't matter how much the customer uses if you have and offer unlimited bandwidth, doesn't it?:) MsRoxie: i've sent you a PM. check it. Asher S 10-10-2001, 01:45 AM Unlimited means no limit -- and your tos doesnt say that your customers arent allowed to go over a certain limit. So even if your customers use upto 150GB of transfer you cant do anything about it. grabbags 10-11-2001, 03:11 AM Well, I joined 2mhost.com before. They lie about what they can offer. Unlimited transfer--> stop dreaming. They terminated my account for using about 20GB of bandwidth per month. Of course, I DID NOT store ANY illegal materials. However, they said they do not allow downloads ... what a joke!:mad: Asher S 10-11-2001, 03:16 AM You shouldnt have gone with 'unlimited transfer' in the first place. 2mhost is a known fraud. I believe if enough people can file a complaint 2mhost can be shut down. Regards, Asher. MsRoxie 10-11-2001, 03:49 AM I used less than 2 GB per month. *snicker* I also noticed that if you typed http://something.dayum.net, you would get a subdomain that I had not set up...it was as if someone else was using the space. I think they count on you NOT using all of your space so they can divy (sp?) it out. I was using half of my space and I guess that was too much. grabbags 10-11-2001, 05:38 PM That's how 2mhost.com defines unlimited bandwidth ****************************************** Unlimited Bandwidth: We allow unlimited bandwidth for sites: - Not run any type of real media files, including ra, rm, mp3, mov, avi files. - Not have any type or size of downloads including exe files and compressed files. - Not run any type of chat, forums, irc,.. programs or allow visitors to submit files by upload, ... . If your site contains/runs one or more of subjects above we will allow a 2GB free bandwidth per month and charge you $4.00 for each GB above this 2GB. For Mega-res account we will give a 10Gb free bandwidth for all plans and charge $4.00 for each GB over this 10Gb. Again we promiss a real unlimted bandwidth for site dosnt contain this subjects above. *************************************************** Asher S 10-11-2001, 11:33 PM LOL!!! These guys cant even spell right and in their world unlimited transfer means 2GB. They also dont know anything about hosting terminology because bandwidth is not transfer however these people seem to think so. Regards, Asher. SoftWareRevue 10-11-2001, 11:40 PM Well, at least they state that if you run "any type of real media files, including ra, rm, mp3, mov, avi files. - . . have any type or size of downloads including exe files and compressed files. - . . run any type of chat, forums, irc,.. programs or allow visitors to submit files by upload" then you'll be charged for anything aver 2GB. I have seen sites that don't care what you're doing. If you go over 2GB, you are going over their "unlimited transfer":rolleyes: Asher S 10-11-2001, 11:47 PM They shouldnt write unlimited transfer as its false advertising they should clearly state that its 2GB. Regards, Asher. SoftWareRevue 10-11-2001, 11:56 PM Well it is unlimited. As long as you don't use too much. :D Asher S 10-12-2001, 12:13 AM LOL! Its unlimited to the extent of 2gb -- haha what a joke! SoftwareRevue -- why dont you start a forum on these jerks on your forums (yourhostsucks.com)? Then im sure you would receive a lot of more info about the antics of this non-host ;) Regards, Asher. Pillhead 10-14-2001, 04:41 PM 2mhost, IMO are great. I did post a grudge previously but I have since learnt that I was jumping to too many conclusions. I have a mega-res account with 2mhost, and I must give them the credit that they deserve for hosing me for the past few months. They have been very good to me because I have generated ALOT of bandwidth yet they still plod on. There may have been a few problems at first, but they seem to be all remidied now, the services they offer are 2nd to none, custom nameservers that resolve even when registered by a proper registrar. They offer telnet usage, which is great, not many people offer this service nowadays, but I dont know how a real reseller could function without it. But back to my point that I originally wanted to make, you will find that if you host porn/warez you will undoubtably be treated the same with all webhosts, warez could be the undoing of 2mhost, if it was too be found on there server, they could be held responsible for this, its like getting the sack at work for bringing in copied games, it is for the good of the company, so you have to look at it from this respective. But I must again say that I HIGHLY recommend 2mhost, there service is highly commendable and fair. kb@iy-2 10-14-2001, 05:02 PM [i]But I must again say that I HIGHLY recommend 2mhost, there service is highly commendable and fair. [/B] Lol, yeah, as long as you use less than 25MB disk space, 2GB bandwidth per month, and make sure you have no media files, forums, chats, adult content, or basically anything at all on their servers ever. :eek: :eek2: :eek3: :uhh: :erm: :rolleyes: Angel78 10-14-2001, 05:20 PM So actualy you are allowed to use just plain HTML, (php needs MYSQL). Nice host, i think i ll drop tera-byte and switch to them. Asher S 10-15-2001, 12:03 AM :eek: You've got to be kidding me! Drop tera-byte and go with this non-host?? This my friend is a mistake you'll regret for the rest of your life. Regards, Asher. SoftWareRevue 10-15-2001, 12:11 AM Originally posted by ^Kyo . . . . You've got to be kidding me!. . . .It would appear that Angel78 is "kidding" :rolleyes: Asher S 10-15-2001, 12:26 AM LOL -- good to know. For a moment i thought that Angel78 had lost his sanity. :) Pillhead 10-24-2001, 12:15 PM Hmm, well not long after my appraisal, I got an email saying, after every 20GB of transfer you will pay $4 per gig, what a suprize to get landed on me, HALFWAY through the month once id already hit 20GB ! Oh well, ive moved to tera-byte now, and boy are you lot rite about them, there outstanding, I just got one question, on the virtual server pacakges are you required to install MYSQL Server yourself ?, coz I cant find it on my server :-/ MsRoxie 12-29-2001, 09:26 PM ahhhh...I forgot all about this. Well, it turns out that none of my four admins knew anything about porn. I couldn't check it because the folder had been deleted and then my access was denied. I did receive my refund. :D But I never got any of the files the company promised. That was a lot of work lost. All in all....I think they may be good for a beginner site with strict HTML and only a few pages. tekhedd 03-19-2002, 04:04 PM ...good for a beginner site with strict HTML and only a few pages. Well, yeah. I've been using them primarily for email and a place to park my resume for, oh, six months. (I was kind of broke last summer for obvious reasons.) While I'm not running a bigbrother monitor or anything, I haven't noticed any significant downtime. I get an occasional timeout on the pop3 server, but then I check automatically for email every 10 minutes all day every day... So, they're exactly what their terms and conditions say, and they do pretty well within those constraints. So maybe the point is that it's wise to read the T&C before setting up (just say for example) a PHP-driven file trading portal. <: t/DD -- (Signature available upon request.) SoftWareRevue 03-19-2002, 05:14 PM :eek: Back again? It's always interesting when someone's first post is to a six month old thread. BC 03-19-2002, 06:04 PM Or more accurately, four months since the last post. Thread closed. <<ADMIN NOTICE: posters, if you have an experience with a host that you'd like to post about, unless a current thread is already running, please avoid dragging up old threads and post a new one. Thanks in advance.>> |