Hey everyone,

one of my favorite tools is the whois.sc reverse ip lookup (tells you what sites are hosted on an ip address)

It looks like they just turned this into paid service and only give you 3 of the results for free :( .. and its expensive - they want $15 / month!

Anyone know of any similar services out there that are free?

ohh man that sucks.. i used TO USE them before allso..

any one has any other that`s free ?

did you try http://www.dnsstuff.com/ ?

Maybe it has the thing you are looking for.

:angry: Darn, it worked just fine yesterday. I just noticed it only displayed 3 results today.

nice while it lasted!

R.I.P. whois.sc, time to find another service. :rolleyes:

Surely you saw it coming.

Well, we still have 3 results....meh.

It was never all that accurate anyway....

Originally posted by cMark
did you try http://www.dnsstuff.com/ ?

Maybe it has the thing you are looking for.

doesnt do this specific function though,..

This was the only site that I found that would do that and although it wasnt perfect, it was pretty close.

Their site actually polls all the sites once a month to compile those ip-> site stats, so its not something you can recreate easily either :(

Originally posted by Watcher_TVI
It was never all that accurate anyway....

Especially when you start denying their robots at the router...

Originally posted by Annette
Especially when you start denying their robots at the router...

:D

That really sucks that they did that. It sure isn't worth that price to me to get the reverse ip lookup.

Services such as these cost money to develop and maintain and people behind it need to earn a living to survive. Not surprised to see this happen. Everything comes with a price.

Just as eddy2099 stated, people need to obtain some sort of income at times. If you don't want to pay, then there are other places out there that is still free for you to use.

Just curious if anyone uses it for whois lookup too? Nearly every URL I have checked today returned a "not in database", even though they had a screenshot of the site :eek:

I think I only got two successful lookups today and they were both .org :bawling:

Maybe these new fees will help them enlarge their database?

(Or find a new way around those blasted routers blocking their bots)

:D

Where do they get listings of all the domains to check? (millions)

or do they just have a regular robot / spider that traverses the net looking for new sites by following links?

If you use www.dnsstuff.com go down to the bottom left box "WHOIS Search" "True WHOIS search, using www.whois.sc."

If you run your search from this box everytime, it seems to work fine. I got the "you must pay after 3 uses" message when I went to whois.sc directly... I then went to dnsstuff.com and searched about 20 domains without being asked to pay.

Originally posted by subigo
If you use www.dnsstuff.com go down to the bottom left box "WHOIS Search" "True WHOIS search, using www.whois.sc."

If you run your search from this box everytime, it seems to work fine. I got the "you must pay after 3 uses" message when I went to whois.sc directly... I then went to dnsstuff.com and searched about 20 domains without being asked to pay.

We're talking about the Reverse Ip lookup feature... The whois search sites are not very useful as you can do this command line from any linux machine. The Reverse Ip lookup which matches IP's to websites is something that its hard to find.

I don't blame them for charging, however, the service isn't worth that much to me personally.

i agree with you, Reality Hosting

Originally posted by anon-e-mouse
Just curious if anyone uses it for whois lookup too? Nearly every URL I have checked today returned a "not in database", even though they had a screenshot of the site :eek:

I think I only got two successful lookups today and they were both .org :bawling:

I do. Usually when that happens, the whois server is down at the registrar.

Originally posted by wizade
We're talking about the Reverse Ip lookup feature... The whois search sites are not very useful as you can do this command line from any linux machine. The Reverse Ip lookup which matches IP's to websites is something that its hard to find.

I'm talking about the reverse IP lookup too... after using dnsstuff it takes you to a whois page, but in the middle of the page, there is this:

Reverse IP: Web server hosts * websites (reverse ip tool requires free login)

Which is the same as:
http://www.whois.sc/members/reverse-ip.html?lookup=64.62.***.***

It doesnt ask me to log in, or limit my searches.

Maybe I am missing something here.

Still working here... 4 FREE :D

How did you get more than 3 domains shown for free?

Try what I recommended above... I just searched 6 ips again, and it worked fine.

not wanting to argue, but its not free to view more than 3 results. Ive tried your way above.

It will tell you how many sites are listed at the ip from the summary page, but it will not let you actually list more than 3 of them:

for ex:

70 domains found on 66.98.xx.xxx
Search is limited to first 3 results.

Website-
www.first.net
www.second.com
www.thrid.com
67 more domains found...
See up to 1000 domains for all IP addresses with Silver Membership

----

Are you that are saying you can see this info for free seeing more results than 3? ... or just seeing the "This Ip hosts xx domains"

Okay... weird. I take back what I said before, it just stopped working for me.

I dont mind paying for $15 per year :D but not $15 per month though.

Originally posted by LOTR
I dont mind paying for $15 per year :D but not $15 per month though.

agreed. thats really high.

NOT Working anymore :(

Now I do have to pay if I want more than 3 :(

Does anyone know another site where I can do this?

Or how about if we all hookup and pay?

99 users on 1 account is only $1.- a year :)

Definetly too expensive at the moment but I am sure they will feel the sting as well.

GOOD! im glad that is a paid service now!

although i paid them to block our reverse IP look ups, people could still pay to get the info

this should eliminate a lot of nosey busy bodies!

why is it that everyone here expects everyone to work for free? are you guys giving away free stuff/

if so, where do i join??

Originally posted by LaurenStephens
GOOD! im glad that is a paid service now!

although i paid them to block our reverse IP look ups, people could still pay to get the info

this should eliminate a lot of nosey busy bodies!

why is it that everyone here expects everyone to work for free? are you guys giving away free stuff/

if so, where do i join??

:) its just that most services of this kind are free and use advertising to support them. Its almost like paying to use a search engine.

I never liked whois.sc reverse lookup anyways.
I dont want people knowing what other sites i have on my servers.

I did like this tool, because it gave an good idee what kind of sites where on the server.

Games?
Porn?
Buisness?
Warez?
Abit of eveything?

and so on.

Is there a alternative?

Yea I liked it for the same reason. Was curious as to who are my neighbours on the server. I don't think there is an alternative for now.

this is all interesting as me and a lot of other companies have PAID them to block this service!

how much was paid to block this? Im kind of suprised they allow people to be removed because its public information... but then again, they probably need the money.

I saw another research site that did this about a year ago... but its been taken down now :(

I think it's better to do a "pre-paid pay per view"

Like you buy 100 views for like $10

An have to use this withing 6 months!

I don't think alot of people are goint to pay 15 a month for this service!

I think it's smarter to do both!

100 for 10

Ultimited for 15 a month or 99 a years!


Unfortanatly I do not own whois.sc :(

ive already talked to jay about his pricing. right now he is doing a silver membership thru paypal auto subscription for 15 a month. you get unlimited searches on reverse IP look ups AND also you arent limited to only the first 40 like you were before.

in addition to that you arent ONLY getting the reverse IP tool but also the whois history to see who has had ownership of the domain name for the past few years.

if THAT alone isnt worth 15 bucks a month....

in any event, again ill ask, are you guys giving away your business and services for free? so why should he?? doesnt make any sense. without all the free loaders, im sure the service will work much faster now ;)

Lauren

Nothing in this world is free!

It's just how you sell it! Someone is always paying! Even with so called "Free" sites! Someone (ads) is paying.

It's about stratigy. For someone like me, it is not worth paying 15 a month for. Simply because I don't use it so much to be willing to pay a monthly cost.

If I was him (offcourse I need to see his costs as well) I would target a wider groep.

- Sell Ad space
- Come with an prepaid or pay per view system.
- Monthly payment for people/buisnesses who do use it alot!

This way you have a biger target groep. I think there are alot op people will to pay 10 to us it 100x within 6 months (example).

p.s. forgive me for my bad english

Originally posted by LaurenStephens

in any event, again ill ask, are you guys giving away your business and services for free? so why should he?? doesnt make any sense. without all the free loaders, im sure the service will work much faster now ;)

He was giving it away free until a week ago :)

What ever happened to SamSpade.org?

ugh.

Originally posted by aingaran
What ever happened to SamSpade.org?

Isn't it still there?

it way a fine service to check .but it's reality !
nothing stay free forever.
that's it . :-(

Originally posted by Donnie-D
Lauren

It's just how you sell it! Someone is always paying! Even with so called "Free" sites! Someone (ads) is paying.

- Sell Ad space
- Come with an prepaid or pay per view system.
- Monthly payment for people/buisnesses who do use it alot!

This way you have a biger target groep. I think there are alot op people will to pay 10 to us it 100x within 6 months (example).

p.s. forgive me for my bad english

i hate ads

i cant imagine the nitemare trying to come up with several different ways to let people pay not to mention all the per view tracking involved!

i use the service a LOT and i told him i thought 15 a month was too much, maybe 10 bucks a month.... BUT he has added quite a few new features and if you think about it, 15 bucks really isnt THAT bad! for all the access and info you get!

hey guys,

whois.sc give a great service, only thing is they'vce now changed to charging for reverse ip lookup, any of you guys know of another whois who gives reverse ip lookups for free? and also shows which datacenter the server is located in

cheers

aqi

dig -x is your friend.

paul

I've not been able to access samspade for a couple of weeks.

Is it an issue with my ISP?

soz about my above post, posted in the lounge not realising there was a thread about it already :)

rusko, dig -x?

i cant imagine the nitemare trying to come up with several different ways to let people pay not to mention all the per view tracking involved!


Spend a month writing a script and it could be all automated. /shrug

ok sounds good.

will you spend a month writing a script for me??

for free?

thanks!

contact me for details

*baffled*

You're being silly.

When you start a business, you need to invest money.

He's charging for the service of his website (which I have no problems with), he can invest the money to develop a backend system to run things.

but he doesnt need to is the point.

he now has a payment system in place

it wasn't long ago that he put adsense on his site, i imagine his first choice was to avoid charging and try and make some revenue from that. I assume that was not successfull and had to start charging.
Pity.
He could have out a few cpm banners up, i'm pretty sure he generates quite a lot of pageviews. he also has sponsored by ads, with the likes of google adwords!!!
Maybe the adsense wasn't a failure but he's noticed the site's popularity and is trying to capitalise on it.
He will, however little he charges, lose visitors.

Can none of you programmers out there reproduce the reverse ip lookup? obviously it's something unique to whois.sc otherwise we would all be here talking about it, but how did he go about doing it?

If i was searching for a host i woudl liek to know who i'd be sharing a server with, just like when i buy a flat, i look to see who are my neighbours, if there are any troublemakers there i will go elsewhere!

Originally posted by aqi32
Can none of you programmers out there reproduce the reverse ip lookup? obviously it's something unique to whois.sc otherwise we would all be here talking about it, but how did he go about doing it?


He does it the OLD FASHIONED WAY.

His servers churn away, literally running a WHOIS on EVERY registered canonical domain name from 00.aa to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.zz, and part of the information his servers record for each domain name is it's IP resolution.

Then to provide you with the list of canonical domain names hosted on a given IP, WHOIS.SC has its database indexed on IP address, and simply draws on that laboriously-constructed database to find out this information.

It's not possible to duplicate it with some cute programming trick. It's information collected the hard way - by churning through record after record and assembling the data. No other source that I know of has all this information for all TLDs. (Obviously, each official TLD registrar could probably produce this data for the TLDs in its database.) But only WHOIS.SC has it for all TLDs.

So he has unique information for which he feels he can charge.

FINE, I'll pay the $15 a month. No problem. But why does need to do it through PayPal?

PayPal is the most AMATEURISH payment service ever. It makes an otherwise very PROFESSIONAL WHOIS service look like a bunch of goofwads selling Beanie Babies!

He could accept credit cards EASILY and look a lot more professional.

Never was there a more CROOKED bunch of people than the sick and twisted sadists who inhabit PayPal's Ceresco, Nebraska, headquarters. These outright (unconvicted) felons make it a SPORT to daily cheat and swindle innocent people out of their savings.

NEVER will I join PayPal. When WHOIS.SC offers credit card membership other than through PayPal, they'll get my business.

actually it would be virtually impossible to try all combinations of characters/numbers. That brute force method would not work im sure.

However, you can get lists of all the registered domain names from the domain authority. Verisign has lists for .com and .net I believe

This reduces the work to only looking up the ip for registered domains.. but there are still millions of them.

If you read my post, I said it runs a WHOIS on every REGISTERED canonical name within the entire range.

Always best to carefully read a post before issuing an unnecessary correction.

:-)

Originally posted by hostingdude1
He does it the OLD FASHIONED WAY.

His servers churn away, literally running a WHOIS on EVERY registered canonical domain name from 00.aa to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.zz
Hostingdude1, would you happen to know where one could get a complete list of every domain registered in a day? Would this list have to be constructed from many different registrars? I've been looking but no luck. I believe there are approximately 25 million new domains (.com, .net, .org) registered everyday, so it is possibly to get a complete list of them all for each day.

Any suggestions?

deleteddomains.com, ironically :)

Originally posted by Loon
deleteddomains.com, ironically :)
oh right, thanks. I forgot they have that "today's registrations" option now. Thats a decent list but limited because it only shows around 10,000 registered domains each day, from 3 - 10 chars. There is actually a lot more than 10,000 domains being registered each day. Anyone know how they compile that list?

I also like whois.sc IMO, they are the most complete-in-one-screen whois available.

I have signed up for their free API partner program, but I don't know how to implement their XML. (I'm a designer, not a coder.)

Has anyone done it? (ASP preferred). Willing to share? Sell?

TIA...

$15 a month for this service seems a little steep. I'd think that a pay-per-use fee will be better. After all, who uses it enough times a month to make it worth that $15? ;)

I do. I use the full suite of Silver services.

Daily.

It's a great tool to research a given IP address. I always like to know which other websites are on a given IP.