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ttt
10-07-2001, 04:06 PM
Hello
I have a question :

How can I understand - learn this hosting firm reseller or not, if yes whose reseller is it ?

I see an hosting place www.vthost.net , I sometimes see cheap places like this and I wonder that : Is this hoster a reseller, if so, can I trust it.

I am searching trusted places from Webhostingtalk but sometimes I cant find any information about hoster which I see. And I dont want to ask same questions (how it is) here often.

Note : I hope, I could say that I tried to say. If my english very bad excuse me.

Rewdog
10-07-2001, 04:18 PM
Resellers aren't always bad.... but I understand you would want to know if they were or not.
Here is a couple ways to find out more about the host; we will use vthost.net as an example.

Tracert: This traces the route from your comp to the host's server, and tells you where it stops on the way. You can go to start => run => Tracert vthost.net
Tracing route to vthost.net [66.78.56.249]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms 10.58.160.1
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms CAE-LEX-GSR-A-OC-3-53.SC.RR.COM [24.31.193.65]
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms CAE-IRM-7507-A-OC-3-501.SC.RR.COM [24.31.193.14]

4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms CAE-MHE-GSR-A-OC-3-02.SC.RR.COM [24.31.193.1]
5 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms 24.93.64.73
6 30 ms 41 ms 40 ms 12.124.58.25
7 30 ms 50 ms 30 ms gbr6-p80.attga.ip.att.net [12.123.21.78]
8 30 ms 40 ms 40 ms gbr4-p80.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.5.50]
9 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms gbr4-p30.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.2.226]
10 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms ggr1-p370.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.53]
11 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms pos6-3.core1.Washington1.Level3.net [209.244.219
.157]
12 30 ms 41 ms 40 ms so-4-0-0.mp1.Washington1.Level3.net [209.247.10.
65]
13 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms so-3-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [64.159.1.118
]
14 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms loopback0.hsipaccess1.Weehawken1.Level3.net [209
.247.2.3]
15 40 ms 40 ms 41 ms p4-0.core1.cftnnj.inet.vdi.net [63.211.89.150]
16 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 66.78.56.249

Trace complete.

This tells you all the places it stoped.. you should put type some of the last addresses into your browser, and see what comes up. Here it is p4-0.core1.cftnnj.inet.vdi.net .
VDI.net is a host, as well as http://www.inet.net/. This leaves you to believe they ARE a reseller for one of these companies.

The second way is to do a whois... Try the www.domainwhitepages.com
type in the domain and see what comes out. In this case it happens to be Address lookup
canonical name vthost.net.
aliases
addresses 66.78.56.249


Domain Whois record
Querying whois.internic.net with "dom vthost.net"...

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: VTHOST.NET
Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.
Whois Server: whois.dotster.com
Referral URL: http://http://www.dotster.com/help/whois
Name Server: NS.VTHOST.NET
Name Server: NS2.VTHOST.NET
Updated Date: 01-aug-2001


>>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 05:38:26 EDT <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.


Querying whois.dotster.com with "vthost.net"...

The data contained in Dotster, Inc.'s WHOIS database, while
believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is",
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not
limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or
collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of Dotster, Inc. By submitting an inquiry, you agree
to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.
Please limit your queries to 10 per minute and one connection.

Registrant:
Vtworks Co.
Muhurdar Cad. No:44/2
Kadikoy
Istanbul, N/A 81300
TR

Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
Domain Name: VTHOST.NET
Created on: 01-AUG-00
Expires on: 01-AUG-02
Last Updated on: 23-JAN-01

Administrative Contact:
Hostmaster, VTHost.Net hostmaster@vthost.net
VTHost.Net
Muhurdar Cad. No:44/2
Kadikoy
Istanbul, N/A 81300
Turkey
+90 216 414 2246
+90 216 414 2248

Technical Contact:
Support, VTHost.Net support@vthost.net
VTHost.Net
Muhurdar Cad. No:44/2
Kadikoy
Istanbul, N/A 81300
Turkey
+90 216 414 2246
+90 216 414 2248


Domain servers in listed order:
NS.VTHOST.NET
NS2.VTHOST.NET

Register a domain name at www.dotster.com

End of Whois Information

Network Whois record
Querying whois.arin.net with "66.78.56.249"...

Virtual Development INC (NETBLK-NETBLK-VDI-3)
1373 Broad Street, Suite 306
Clifton, NJ 07013
US

Netname: NETBLK-VDI-3
Netblock: 66.78.0.0 - 66.78.63.255
Maintainer: VDI

Coordinator:
Virtual Development Incorporated (ZV15-ARIN) ops@vdi.net
973-815-2799

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

DNS1.VDI.NET 216.10.17.96
DNS2.VDI.NET 216.10.17.97

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 28-Jun-2001.
Database last updated on 5-Oct-2001 23:18:41 EDT.

The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related
Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.

DNS records
name class type data time to live
vthost.net IN NS ns.vthost.net 86400s (1d)
vthost.net IN NS ns2.vthost.net 86400s (1d)
vthost.net IN A 66.78.56.249 14400s (4h)
vthost.net IN MX preference: 0
exchange: vthost.net
14400s (4h)
vthost.net IN SOA server: ns.vthost.net
email: root@ns.vthost.net
serial: 998022837
refresh: 28800
retry: 7200
expire: 3600000
minimum ttl: 86400
14400s (4h)

-- end --


See what comes up and enjoy. :D

Freedom
10-07-2001, 04:20 PM
There is nothing wrong with a reseller, Alot of
resellers are just guy1 pays for the server.. then
he turns around and sells section off to reseller1, reseller2, reseller 3... etc.. guy1 runs the server and maintains it...
and the resellers do the leg work to make thier money.

But if they are a reseller for like DonHost* -=x
or I think there is a fasthost..
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! :)

The host you ask about here seems to have thier own server(s)..


Query about vthost.net for record types ANY
Finding nameservers for vthost.net ...
Query done, 2 answers, status: no error
Found 1 address for NS.vthost.net
Found 1 address for NS2.vthost.net
Trying server 66.78.3.221 (NS.vthost.net) ...
Asking zone transfer for vthost.net ...
vthost.net. 14400 IN SOA ns.vthost.net. root.ns.vthost.net. (
998022837 ;serial (version)
28800 ;refresh period (8 hours)
7200 ;retry interval (2 hours)
3600000 ;expire time (5 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours)
86400 ;default ttl (1 day)
)
vthost.net. 14400 IN NS ns.vthost.net.
vthost.net. 14400 IN NS ns2.vthost.net.
vthost.net. 14400 IN A 66.78.56.249
vthost.net. 14400 IN MX 0 vthost.net.
deneme.vthost.net. 14400 IN A 66.78.56.249
localhost.vthost.net. 14400 IN A 127.0.0.1
mail.vthost.net. 14400 IN CNAME vthost.net.
www.vthost.net. 14400 IN CNAME vthost.net.
*.vthost.net. 14400 IN A 66.78.56.249
ns.vthost.net. 14400 IN A 66.78.3.221
ftp.vthost.net. 14400 IN CNAME vthost.net.
ns2.vthost.net. 14400 IN A 66.78.3.222
vthost.net. 14400 IN SOA ns.vthost.net. root.ns.vthost.net. (
998022837 ;serial (version)
28800 ;refresh period (8 hours)
7200 ;retry interval (2 hours)
3600000 ;expire time (5 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours)
86400 ;default ttl (1 day)
)
Transfer complete, 14 records received for vthost.net
Found 4 hosts within vthost.net
Found 1 duplicate host within vthost.net
Found 0 delegated zones within vthost.net

Rewdog
10-07-2001, 05:02 PM
Oh, I looked over some things. Co-location can also cause the tracert to come up with another company.

ttt
10-07-2001, 05:09 PM
Hello

Thanks for answers and helps of everybody.

I like here very much and recommending to my friends.

Angel78
10-07-2001, 05:39 PM
When i run Tracert vthost.net it goes on for 30 sec or so and than window just disappears? win2000 server OS ? any idea?

ttt
10-07-2001, 06:13 PM
Hello

I am not expert but I think this :

If you using not patched IIS in your system and an address which you tracked has nimda virus, it may attacking to your system (may be ?)

sbrad
10-07-2001, 06:22 PM
Or you could just ask them.
I know it's not very technically-changelling, but most hosts would answer that question truthfully, I think.