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View Full Version : Kerry takes Iowa
oonth 01-19-2004, 11:11 PM Most news sources have confirmed a victory for Kerry in Iowa.
But my candidate John Edwards doesn't seem too far apart:)
Long way to go...but we sure do have the beginning coming to an end.
Xshare 01-19-2004, 11:14 PM Wow, I was really expecting dean to come in first, or at least second. I support Kerry for the democratic ticket.
Tropical Tundra 01-19-2004, 11:18 PM That is surprising. Too bad about Dean that's the easy ticket for President Bush to beat in November. :D
rusko 01-20-2004, 02:55 AM i personally support kucinich (no, he is not a pinko commie imbecile) and would very much like to see a washington outsider in the oval office, but kerry is a reasonably good choice nevertheless. he looks good and appeals to the people, so he has a chance against bush. getting that guy out of the whitehouse and into a remedial class is this country's first priority right now - who replaces him is of little consequence, as things can only get better.
paul
Critic 01-20-2004, 06:03 AM The polls were showing that something like this would happen and Dean's support was dropping in Iowa.
However if i was Kerry i wouldn't get too carried away as New Hampshire will introduce a new element into the race known as General Clark and considering he didn't even bother in Iowa and has spent his time in New Hampshire and New England that is where i see a more decisive result happening for the rest of the country.
Some feel that Carter throwing his weight behind Dean might have had a negative impact on his campaign but then Clark has Michael Moore so that will be interesting to see if it has a similar affect.
MDJ2000 01-20-2004, 11:26 AM Nothing beats Dean's 3am speech, he sounded nearly rabid.
hostpath.com 01-20-2004, 11:31 AM Unfortunately, they're all just lining up to lose to Bush.
MDJ2000 01-20-2004, 11:37 AM That's a bold statement hostpath.
hostpath.com 01-20-2004, 11:51 AM MDJ2000:
As a Democrat, I simply have to say that the Democratic Party has nothing in the way of a serious challenger in the mold of Al Gore of the previous election. Gore had a lot going for him and did win the popular vote. I don't see anyone in the party who has that sort of capability at this point.
I believe the incumbent has the advantage, and with the potential for a diluted vote on the Dem side, I'm fairly confident that GWB will be re-elected.
MDJ2000 01-20-2004, 01:28 PM I'm an independent/libertarian who typically leans republican because of lack of choice, but GW has made enough serious mistakes to push me the other way as far as I'm concerned. Gore also had zero charisma and the Clinton stigma. Watch out for pretty boy Edwards, America loves their good looking southern lawyers, lol.
Ha, I just noticed your custom tag there, funny, I rented that movie this weekend, it was pretty cool, very different, but cool, had some funny moments (Pete's comments to the "farting woman" had me cracking up) as well.
Tropical Tundra 01-20-2004, 01:41 PM Originally posted by MDJ2000
Watch out for pretty boy Edwards, America loves their good looking southern lawyers, lol.
Maybe John Grisham should run, haha!
I plan on voting for W but it won't be a cake walk. If Dean gets the nomination then it would be a blow out a la Nixon-McGovern in 72 but Kerry and Edwards might make it interesting. Clark is a registered Republican who sees a chance to fulfill his presidential ambitions by running for President as a democrat not due to his politics. Democrats might rally to him just because conservative/moderate democrats win elections not liberal democrats. I still like Bush's chances with either of the 7 left (I believe Braun and Gephardt have dropped out) but it's a looong time until November so I won't make any bold statements.
hostpath.com 01-20-2004, 02:04 PM Originally posted by MDJ2000
Gore also had zero charisma and the Clinton stigma.
Actually, didn't Gore score well with women? Not sure if that was based on charisma or good looks. If so, it would tend to discount too much of a Clinton stigma (at least when considering the popular vote).
Anyhow, I still view Gore as a much stronger candidate when he ran for 2000 than anyone (so far) the party has to offer to challenge GWB. Perhaps Edwards or Clark can make a move, because I'm not big on Kerry and even less enamored with Dean.
hostpath.com 01-20-2004, 02:06 PM Originally posted by MDJ2000
Ha, I just noticed your custom tag there, funny, I rented that movie this weekend, it was pretty cool, very different, but cool, had some funny moments (Pete's comments to the "farting woman" had me cracking up) as well.
While some hated the movie, I thought it was pretty good. Not great, but certainly had enough intrigue to keep me watching all the way through. Plus, I'm getting to like Thomas Jane more and more (Henry, he also stars as "The Punisher" in a film with John Travolta that just wrapped filming here).
interactive 01-20-2004, 06:23 PM I, like others, was expecting Dean to pull ahead. Kerry just has something about his 'body language' that bothers me for some reason. Course Dean must have borken his neck..
Critic 01-20-2004, 06:57 PM When 8 becomes 7, we've lost another one.
Dick Gephardt has withdrawn from the race following his poor performance in Iowa and reducing funds. He has not yet pledged his support behind any one candidate but said he will continue to battle for Universal healthcare and jobs for Americans.
New Hampshire will force more than one out of the race i reckon and if Clark does well Dean might get a bit worried even though he has all the money and the giddy little volunteers.
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