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Othello
01-15-2004, 02:58 PM
Here's calling all sane minds in this world to voice their opinion only the right way.

I have dealt with MCHost for over 2 years and except for one major downtime in the past year (whence they also gave us a free month thereafter) I was largely satisfied with them. Although I have now moved over to server-grade hosting, it pains me to see people calling Marc all sorts of names and what not.

I invite all the past/present users to cast their vote in this little poll to see if MCHost is really good or bad. I am sure Marc still has a lot of happy customers to let him win. Nevertheless, the number of bad customers will also show whether the claims for bad service are for real, or just a hype created by a band of 30-40 odd competitors against him.

I wish I could add a ^bump to keep this topic on the top of this forum for all times to come.

Nevertheless, Cheers!!

Rgds
OTH

coight
01-15-2004, 03:11 PM
The vast majority of people calling Marc shoddy or questioning his ethics offer reseller accounts themselves. For the most part most of them have profited in some way out of abusing him.

I won't comment on the matter further but they know who they are!

xirus
01-15-2004, 03:17 PM
i dont think youre going to get an honest opinion through the poll. why? because every hosting company on this forum (95% of users) will vote bad. just my opinion. you can only get a real opinion from the replies to this thread from users who are not competitors themselves!

Othello
01-15-2004, 03:23 PM
Hi Xirus!

Cool it mate! This poll is the only democratically correct way of operating here. Else, all that chest beating and name calling was really kind of nasty.

Real MCHost users (past or present) and not just those who give an ear to all the bad language about a person who should stand a fair trial after all should actively spread the word about this poll and let everyone come and take part in this poll.

Nevertheless, MCHost does need to put up some contact phones and a really active/responsible support desk with good turnaround times. That said, I am sure Marc would *not* cast his vote here and see this poll from a just point of view.

Aussie Bob
01-15-2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by MN-Robert
The vast majority of people calling Marc shoddy or questioning his ethics offer reseller accounts themselves. For the most part most of them have profited in some way out of abusing him.
Care to backup your claim with some hard stats? Or maybe you should qualify your statement with a "IMO".

Now you stated that the "vast majority of people calling Marc shoddy or questioning his ethics offer reseller accounts themselves". I'd love to see some hard proof of your statement. Come on, lay down some hard statistics that backup your claim.

No ranting or arm waving please. Just lay down some undisputable stats that support your above claim, if you can.

eliquid
01-15-2004, 05:39 PM
Aussie Bob, never seen you get so uptight about a statement before.. kinda odd!

Aussie Bob
01-15-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by eliquid
Aussie Bob, never seen you get so uptight about a statement before.. kinda odd!
I'm far from uptight. If someone wants to make a bold statement like that, they could at least show some stats to backup their claim, or qualify such claims as unsubstantiated opinions.

Derrick
01-15-2004, 06:42 PM
Yeah claims on this forum do need to be backed up with more than just this is what i heard or this is what i read. Take the time to gather some information and present it to us for anyhting meaningful.

Derrick

AussieHosts
01-15-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by MN-Robert
The vast majority of people calling Marc shoddy or questioning his ethics offer reseller accounts themselves. For the most part most of them have profited in some way out of abusing him.

Everyone has to have a hobby. ;)

http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/poppy.htm

Gary

idologicJeff
01-16-2004, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by MN-Robert
The vast majority of people calling Marc shoddy or questioning his ethics offer reseller accounts themselves. For the most part most of them have profited in some way out of abusing him.

The services or accounts offered by those who question Marc's questionable tactics have no relationship whatsoever to how Marc conducts himself or his business.

If you're trying to imply that those who offer Reseller accounts tend to be more vocal because they compete with him - I'd disagree with that too.

Some who offer Reseller accounts have been motivated to become vocal because of his tactics and not because of his competition. Others have been bullied by it and remained silent (and honourable)

I think anyone who does business as he does business merits public ridicule (IMHO).

Cheers
Jeff

Othello
01-16-2004, 12:28 AM
IMO this poll wil be valid only when we have had about 200+ votes.

What do you say?

SoftWareRevue
01-16-2004, 12:37 AM
I say it will never be "valid."

Having an anonymous poll about a provider's services is never going to be accurate.

Andrew
01-16-2004, 12:41 AM
I say Marc Wyss has the ethics and business sense of a large (probably too much credit being given here) pile of dung.

And you can take that one to the bank, Robert. I NEVER once tried to profit off of Marc's misfortune. But the scumbag still tried to target me with his trademark crap today. Maybe you think that's okay, but I don't.

Othello
01-16-2004, 01:39 AM
huh :| this poll was negated or what?

SoftWareRevue
01-16-2004, 01:47 AM
The poll was closed and results set to zero. I'm sure you only wanted to help. But an anonymous poll like that seems to bring out the worse in some. Members that have no experience with the level of service provided seem to think it's fine to vote.

You will gain a much better perspective by openly asking in threads.

idologicJeff
01-16-2004, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
But an anonymous poll like that seems to bring out the worse in some. Members that have no experience with the level of service provided seem to think it's fine to vote.


SoftWareRevue, I thought it very noble to close the polls - and the right thing to do. Also, I don't normally find myself questioning your posts, but how could you possibly know this?

How do you know that those who voted weren't former clients?

Cheers
Jeff

coight
01-16-2004, 01:55 AM
I didn't mention any names (so you don't need to be defensive) but for all you non believers the long mchost threads will reveal who has been against him and his business and jumping on the bandwagon from day one.

Maybe he is dodgy I am not claiming he is not, he has ripped off a fair few people but alas the majority of people that were after him when the sh*t hit the fan were competitors. People saying that Marc had little ethics when they were advertising in Mchost threads trying to poach his customers.

It would be nice to see how many competitors voted in this poll :rolleyes:

Thanks

SoftWareRevue
01-16-2004, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by idologicJeff
SoftWareRevue, I thought it very noble to close the polls - and the right thing to do. Also, I don't normally find myself questioning your posts, but how could you possibly know this?

How do you know that those who voted weren't former clients?

Cheers
Jeff Let's just say that we've been down this road before and we're just not going to allow these types of polls.

You're correct. It is the right thing to do. And I didn't mean any disrespect to any members that have voted in this poll. I was mentioning polls in general. And, yes, vBulletin has options when it comes to polls.

idologicJeff
01-16-2004, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Let's just say that we've been down this road before and we're just not going to allow these types of polls.

You're correct. It is the right thing to do. And I didn't mean any disrespect to any members that have voted in this poll. I was mentioning polls in general. And, yes, vBulletin has options when it comes to polls.

Sounds like a good explaination and the voice of experience.

You've convinced me.

Cheers
Jeff

idologicJeff
01-16-2004, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by MN-Robert
People saying that Marc had little ethics when they were advertising in Mchost threads trying to poach his customers.

Perhaps there were some trying to poach his customers.

However it seems to me if you do a search for MCHost you'll, more likely than not, find a bunch of "former" customer's who left or were leaving without outside influence.

I would even bet they were the majority of those who posted.

I would say trying to re-raise an issue (that was peacefully put to rest) and shed some positive light on it, has just done more harm than good, and reopened old wounds.

Marc is strangely silent in these parts now and this community largely moved on. If MCHost is to get its reputation back its probably best if we put this thread to bed too.

Cheers
Jeff

mdrussell
01-16-2004, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by MN-Robert
I didn't mention any names (so you don't need to be defensive) but for all you non believers the long mchost threads will reveal who has been against him and his business and jumping on the bandwagon from day one.

Maybe he is dodgy I am not claiming he is not, he has ripped off a fair few people but alas the majority of people that were after him when the sh*t hit the fan were competitors. People saying that Marc had little ethics when they were advertising in Mchost threads trying to poach his customers.

It would be nice to see how many competitors voted in this poll :rolleyes:

Thanks

I was temted to vote, but didn't.

Can you remember what he did to Splash Host? I can. Can you remember how, when MCHost was becoming worse by the day, that Marc still chose to post at WHT and try to hide his failing business? He closed his forums to do this.

These are coming from the perspective of an individual and not a competitor.

bear
01-16-2004, 07:42 AM
I remember, Matt...all to well.

Esr Tek
01-16-2004, 10:14 AM
LOL I thought most of these 'competitors' that bash Marc where ex-clients of his.
In fact some of them weren't his 'competitors' until McHost did them wrong.

Andrew
01-16-2004, 11:04 AM
He's done plenty wrong to his competitors too.

I've never been one to think much about 'competition'. I usually think of even my direct competitors as colleagues, not adversaries. Hell, in this business, since nobody else cares or knows what we go through on a daily basis, having someone to commiserate with is welcome!

BUT...competitor or no, Marc Wyss is lower than the lowest layer of prehistoric pond scum at the bottom of the Long Island Sound.

Thankfully, I believe that what goes around comes around. And, in this case, there's a lot of coming around to be done. :)