I guess itz not number of sites or disk space , but amount of data transfer and RAM that eventually matters. I've a Raq 4i with 128 Mb RAM, how much data transfer or number of sites can IT run without decrease in performance.


WHat abt a Raq4r with 256 Mb RAM?

WHat abt a Raq4r with 512 Mb RAM ?


WHat abt a PIII with 128/256/512 Mb Ram ?

I've made my calulcations.
Letz see how much I'm correct on this issue ! :)

I'd like to know how you've arrived at a calculation as there really is no way of telling. Generally you'll kill the server by running scripts or mySQL calls, etc., before you'll reach the maximum data transfer.

How many sites? Same. I killed a RaQ4i with 386MB of ram with just one site. You could also have 200 tiny sites on it and it could still take more.

It is all relative, and there is not way to put a hard number on it. Doesn't matter if it is a RaQ or a custom build dual PIII.

What I was asking was for.....how much data transfer can a RAQ survive ?

I'm not really taking into account weird circumstances in which some nasty script crashed the server etc.

Hope, any of gurus over here ...have bells ringing ?
:)

Well, I've seen reports (nothing I run mind you, not even close) that RaQs can serve quite a bit of data, if that is all you are doing. For example file downloads, etc.

The webalizer logs will die the minute you hook the computer to the network (heh, well maybe a bit longer), but you didn't ask for logs, so I'll keep to the point.

What exactly are you looking to do with it, or how much are you hoping it will push?

Do you want to know how fast a RAQ can push data out? As in some kind of upspeed to the internet at large? That is what I get from your question.

I just need to know how much space shall I resell from my Raq 4i and PIII 700 to keep my customers happy and business profitable.
I guess selling 50 gb from PIII can be fine ? :)
and... 10 gb from Raq 4i ? :)

Got my point ? Please guide me people. I want to offer a reliable medium to my clients. I never wanna have their site down.

Thansk

Dunno if its any use for you:

I have a raq3 with 100 sites and 512mb, it pushes over 30gb a month and is still totaly asleep (processor 0.00).

I've pushed 200GB of traffic through a RaQ4 with 256MB Ram without even noticing it...

Can I add 80 Gb hard disk to both my PIII 700 and Raq 4i so that oth will have 100 gb of space. Then resell 90 gb !!! of space !
My profits will rock !! Would my customers will notice any performance difference.
For example.. 500 mb *180 accounts = 90 Gb
Or 100 Mb accounts wth 900 accounts = 90 Gb

With all standard features on both of my raq4i and PIII 700
raq4i currently have 128 Mb ram but I can upgrade it later..same is the case with pIII

Thanks a ton in advance

Chicken you really help. :)

Originally posted by vardhandelhi
...Or 100 Mb accounts wth 900 accounts = 90 Gb

First, you probably won't be able to add an 80 gig HD to a RaQ, and people have recommended that it not be done to me for various reasons. Some 4's come with dual HD's so I'm not exactly sure what the issues were...

Second, not only would you never want to put 900 sites on a RaQ, that is quite a bit for any server. With every site that is on the server, you increase the risk that one site will take down the entire operation. Granted this can happen with 40 sites on the server, but then only 39 others are affected.

RaQs also have a hard limit of 250 sites (there has been confusion before whether this is namebased or 256 IPs, etc. and to be honest, I've forgotten what the exact limit is for now).

I know raq has got limit of 255 sites, but that can be easily extended to almost 1000 by just editing a few files.
What abt PIII 700...what abt putting that much sites on that machine >>?? :)

Well, there is nothing to say you can't, just that you run a greater risk of taking down 999 other sites if one (or more) take the server down. Really, it depends on the sites also. This site for example, isn't an example of a run awy script, but it would have caused problems on that 1,000 site dedicated server of yours.

I'd think most paid hosts put between 120-250, maybe 500 per server, but not over that for the most part, mostly so that all the eggs aren't in one basket. I'd suggest you start a poll asking about this, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be one of those questions many hosts would answer (especially since you are looking more for the maximum number).

Ok, let's assume this hypotetical situation:

1) the server has the ususal mix of middle to low-cost packages. Some use 20MB transfer per month, some a couple of gigs. Perhaps a couple of larger accounts, going into 5-10 GB transfer. No crazy forums - CGI forums banned, just PHP, MySQL and occasional ASP here and there.

If you put 200 customers like that on RAQ, I assume they would take about 3 GB of space and 40 GB transfer.

According to experience of webhosts here, is this calcualtion correct? Can a RAQ 4i with 256MB RAM take it?

2) how about if the situation is the same as above and the sole bigger account is a PHP/MySQL forum with about 3000 users? Like a smaller PC hardware/software news site? Perhaps 25% as busy as WHT. Will the RAQ 4i still take it?

I think it would be valuable to hosts new in RAQ/dedicated business, such as me, if we would have more info before we finalize our business plans... Like some real life stories from hosting business...? Anyone? Chicken :D ?

Regards,
Ales

Please... if any1 can provide me real statsitics abt the problem..I'm seeking..I'll be really gratefull.

PIII 700

Cobalt raq 4i

both with 128 Mb RAM.

Under normal condition...how much bandwidth can they handle ?

Originally posted by Ales
If you put 200 customers like that on RAQ, I assume they would take about 3 GB of space and 40 GB transfer.

According to experience of webhosts here, is this calcualtion correct? Can a RAQ 4i with 256MB RAM take it?

Short answer:
yes it can take it, until it can't.

Long answer:
You guys seem to be looking for hard numbers, definite yes/no, but it really doesn't work that way. There are three constants...


1. A server, properly configured for the task at hand, will function better than the same specification server, which is *not* configured properly for the task at hand.

2. A more powerful server, properly configured, will out perform a less powerful server, properly configured. You could extend 'powerful' to RAM in some cases where RAM is a crucial factor.

3. A server can take everything you run through it, until it can't. Can't -is sometimes relative (some people have differing opinions about how much CPU usage is too much, etc.).

Generally, it isn't the raw transfer (amount of data) that will affect your numbers, it is the processing (CPU) and database functions that will kill ya'. This isn't RaQ specific, in fact none of this is. You could be doing fine with 199 sites and the 200th one pushes things over the edge. It might also be the 201st one. It might be the 7th one that where the owner runs an ad and all of a sudden it is hittville.

I expected such an answer... I've been in the computer/tech support business so long that I understand that not even two identical computers act similar if the conditions aren't completely the same. Sometimes even if the conditions are the same, they act differently.

So I gather that when you have 200 different web sites on them, you can't know if you don't try... If 201st web site is too much, rent a new server...

My main line of investigation right now is wheather I should base my company on RAQs with 300GB transfer and 256MB RAM (wonder which company would I rent :rolleyes: at :D ) or a straight linux box with 256MB RAM and 40GB transfer... I wonder which is more cost efficient and better for my future customers... Perhaps both?

Anyway, thanks Chicken,
Ales

Originally posted by Ales
linux box with 256MB RAM and 40GB transfer... If you are just getting started a RaQ at $99 cant be wrong IMHO

and you do not have to worrie about a good control panel or traffic (if rackshack)