View Full Version : Can anybody beat Lunarpages deal?
AlxCds 12-28-2003, 12:00 AM I looking for a host with lots of bandwidth. Space is not much.
Lunarpages.com has 40gigs a month for about $8. Is there any other hosting company with a better deal than that?
Thanks.
WirralNet Matt 12-28-2003, 12:04 AM There are some hosts who dont stick over 800 clients on a server and oversell excessivly who i would say beat them in terms of quality ;)
CrazyTech 12-28-2003, 12:05 AM Take a look in the offers forum, but proceed at your own risk. Frankly you're in dangerous teritory wanting so much for so little. I won't elaborate, but just be careful where you tread.
Heymish 12-28-2003, 12:14 AM well - i have stated this before, but some hosts have different business plans form others (most actually) and what may be interpretated as over-selling by one host, going by their business practise, may be a entirely different story.
But you will never know until you try these things out for yourself
A couple of hosts do High Bandwidth plans , one of the best known is Hostrocket.com 1 Gb+50 Gb Bandwidth for $10/mo (paid yearly) They own their own datacenter.
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 01:48 AM Originally posted by Sash!
There are some hosts who dont stick over 800 clients on a server and oversell excessivly who i would say beat them in terms of quality ;)
And what exactly do you know about our business practices?
You can bash all you want. One thing is for sure though. You know nothing about our service!
mikeym 12-28-2003, 01:53 AM Well why don't you explain your practices so that people know there not getting ripped off?
IGobyTerry 12-28-2003, 01:57 AM Originally posted by Maximiliam
And what exactly do you know about our business practices?
You can bash all you want. One thing is for sure though. You know nothing about our service!
Maximiliam, we're not bashing. You've said it yourself that you assigned 32,000 gigabytes worth per server approx. (I can't spell the full word.) Obviously no single server itself could push that itself. You're a discount host, that's your type of business. It's how your business is layed out. We respect that, you're a big host turning a nice profit I'm sure. There are other companies however that don't do discount hosting and don't stick 800 sites per server and don't oversell. Respect that things are different.
The only thing that matters is that the clients are happy, which yours seem to be.
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 02:03 AM Originally posted by 93.3
Well why don't you explain your practices so that people know there not getting ripped off?
Well for starters, we do not populate our servers with a set number of clients. We base it on load. Servers are dual xeon 2.8 with atleast 4GB of ram (Dell PowerEdge 2650s).
Second, we use an external storage solution from EMC instead of local disks. (only OS stored on local disks). You can say we are semi-clustered. This whole solution offloads alot of load on the actual servers.
Third, ask our customers what they think about our service.
Heymish 12-28-2003, 02:08 AM i for one think they provide a very good service, one to really look up to
mikeym 12-28-2003, 02:09 AM That storage solution sounds very interesting, I'm curious, does that slow down the loading and retrieval of daya?
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 02:12 AM Originally posted by inogenius
Maximiliam, we're not bashing. You've said it yourself that you assigned 32,000 gigabytes worth per server approx. (I can't spell the full word.) Obviously no single server itself could push that itself. You're a discount host, that's your type of business. It's how your business is layed out. We respect that, you're a big host turning a nice profit I'm sure. There are other companies however that don't do discount hosting and don't stick 800 sites per server and don't oversell. Respect that things are different.
The only thing that matters is that the clients are happy, which yours seem to be.
I respect everyones business. But it seems some people does not respect ours.
You do not see me go around telling people how bad of a choice it is to go with company X because of something I have no real idea about, do you?
It is like it does not matter if anyone provides good service or not.
Lets just go around tell people crap about the company just because we hate them for no appearent reason.
Heymish 12-28-2003, 02:21 AM Maximiliam: Its more jealousy than anything else. They cant provide a service as good as yours, so naturally they are jealous
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 02:23 AM Originally posted by 93.3
That storage solution sounds very interesting, I'm curious, does that slow down the loading and retrieval of daya?
The answer is NO from a user perspective. Files and data will download at the same speed, if not even faster.
But if you want to become technical, there are some minor latency added on of course. The benefits are great. It will take the load (disk io) away from the server. Which will free up the server load tremendously.
mikeym 12-28-2003, 02:23 AM Not many people can provide that, but I'm still interested in that storage solution, is it from EMC Corporation?
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 02:25 AM Originally posted by 93.3
Not many people can provide that, but I'm still interested in that storage solution, is it from EMC Corporation?
Yep... kinda pricy though... Not for the absolute beginner, hehe
NetApp have their filer, but they can not match the io in any way...
mikeym 12-28-2003, 02:28 AM That would probably be for a major operation though, right? I mean a small company similar to mine wouldn't have the need for it. I would think it would be more worthwhile for a large hosting company.
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 02:37 AM Originally posted by 93.3
That would probably be for a major operation though, right? I mean a small company similar to mine wouldn't have the need for it. I would think it would be more worthwhile for a large hosting company.
Well, there are solutions out there for everyone. All depends on how much IO you are doing.
I would not recommend going for it if you just started out or if you do not have too too many clients. Then you probably would not need it. It would be too expensive for you.
But if your server farm grows. It will be easier to manage and require less servers with a centralized storage solution if done correctly.
Also if you want to go load balanced you need one.
NetFuel 12-28-2003, 03:07 AM I use a SAN setup on my network (I am not speaking about NetFuel, thats separate) because of the size of the data storage and the amount of transfer each day. It is not uncommon to transfer 300-350GB a day, thats a work day 8:00-5:00. A setup like that is great but you have to be able to pay for it.
ericabiz 12-28-2003, 03:48 AM Originally posted by Maximiliam
But if your server farm grows. It will be easier to manage and require less servers with a centralized storage solution if done correctly.
How many servers do you have now?
Reddrake 12-28-2003, 05:22 AM In my opinion this thread went way off hand to beating a deal to how many servers do you have? Apprently Lunarpages has a smooth operation and that should be finaled. Enough of the put downs. They clearly are operating in stable guidelines :)
I thiunk Maximiliam should be taking care of his customers than muttering with a jerk.
and he's leaking his biz practicies...not good isn't it.
no,i am not bashing anyone. i am a true noob.
Maximiliam 12-28-2003, 05:48 AM Originally posted by ToaD
I thiunk Maximiliam should be taking care of his customers than muttering with a jerk.
and he's leaking his biz practicies...not good isn't it.
no,i am not bashing anyone. i am a true noob.
Nice to be mentioned in your 2nd post ever on this forum :)
And btw. All I am leaking is general knowledge. hehe.
nickn 12-28-2003, 12:07 PM Originally posted by Maximiliam
local disks. (only OS stored on local disks). You can say we are semi-clustered. This whole solution offloads alot of load on the actual servers.
That had to be quite a task moving 20,000+ customers' data from each server to EMC unit so soon after the purchase of the unit (according to press release it was purchased nov. 20)
Is this actually in use already? or is it only purchased, and still being worked on..?
Did you have to reinstall each server in order to NFS mount /home instead of having as a partition on the server?
zakboca 12-28-2003, 12:33 PM Originally posted by nickn
That had to be quite a task moving 20,000+ customers' data from each server to EMC unit so soon after the purchase of the unit (according to press release it was purchased nov. 20)
Is this actually in use already? or is it only purchased, and still being worked on..?
Did you have to reinstall each server in order to NFS mount /home instead of having as a partition on the server?
Kind of confused, but don't you work for lunarpages?
Zak
IGobyTerry 12-28-2003, 12:57 PM Originally posted by midPhase-Zak
Kind of confused, but don't you work for lunarpages?
Zak
Nah, Nick works for Dinix.
AlxCds 12-28-2003, 02:43 PM Btw, i already have a site on lunarpages. I was wondering because I was going to make another site but with higher bandwidth. They're service is great. Site has never gone down.
And as I suspected, noone can beat them.
klisis 12-28-2003, 03:11 PM Actually, something called "time" will beat. A new host surfaces and shines, it happens all the time. As the host grows older, stuff happen. I just hope they don't become another VDI or Hostrocket which had very similar startup like this one.
Originally posted by AlxCds
And as I suspected, noone can beat them.
Kaumil 12-28-2003, 04:21 PM A Clustered Hosting system is expppeeensive :) We're developing one.. Believe Maximiliam when he says it's not for the beginner!
v7toc 12-28-2003, 04:45 PM Originally posted by AlxCds
I looking for a host with lots of bandwidth. Space is not much.
Lunarpages.com has 40gigs a month for about $8. Is there any other hosting company with a better deal than that?
Thanks.
There are tons of flakey hosts with better deals than that. But most are one man shows - here today gone tomorrow. My two cents is - stick with a legit company.
Tom O'Connor 12-29-2003, 05:55 AM Originally posted by Maximiliam
Yep... kinda pricy though... Not for the absolute beginner, hehe
NetApp have their filer, but they can not match the io in any way...
Those EMC's are about a million each right?
The datacentre I use here in europe have two i rent storage space on them for backups each evening, even the rental on space is expensive.
Keep up the good work lunarpages.com. :) I have been doing a lot of reading today and have not come across any bad comments what so ever from any of your customers. :D
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