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TotalHst
09-27-2001, 12:23 AM
Ever wanted the server of your dreams but couldn't afford it? Well now you can! We can purchase you the server of your dreams and do an own to lease plan! We have connections with major server manufactures allowing us to provide you with rock bottom prices. We can do lease to own plans from as cheap as 229.00 a month gets you the dedicated server of your dreams and collocation in our data center! After four months you own the server! And you get to choose if you want to collocate it in our facility or have us ship it to you! We also can do dedicated server rental for incredible servers like this at great prices, please contact us at support@totalhost.cc or post your questions here! You will not believe our prices!

WoodShedd
09-27-2001, 02:44 AM
You've heard that saying "seeing is believing".

It may be helpful to post some prices.

does this 229 include colocation costs and bandwidth? how much bandwidth?

what kind of servers?
co located where?
what sort of connection?
etc.

MCHost-Marc
09-27-2001, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by TotalHst
...and do an own to lease plan!
Own to lease, or lease to own?

biatche
09-27-2001, 04:05 AM
I want a Dual P4 Xeon 2.0GHz + 2GB Ram + 2 80Gb SCSI HD's for $230 / month for 4 months.

DNCOO
09-27-2001, 12:19 PM
I want a Dual P4 Xeon 2.0GHz + 2GB Ram + 2 80Gb SCSI HD's for $230 / month for 4 months.



And I want a shitta made of gold, but it's just not in the cards now is it?! :D

-Austin Powers-

Couldn't resist.

How can you expect a machine like that for $900?? :eek:


But if you get it let me know! ;)

Digital
09-27-2001, 12:22 PM
So whats the price after you pay off you server for colo?

What price could you offer for a server w/ the following specs

One Pentium III 900mhz - 1.0ghz
512 RAM
Two 9gig scsi HD
One 40gig IDE HD
Network Interface card
Floppy
CDROM

Also, is this rackmountable? Does it come w/ any kinda of warrenty?

biatche
09-28-2001, 02:34 AM
HI. Totalhst agreed to it. He even decided to add a GeForce3 to it. This is an amazing deal. I'm really happy. You guys should check him out. No you shouldn't... I want my bandwidth.

phpjames
09-28-2001, 03:03 AM
Lies...Lies...crazy insane Lies! :eek:

Totalhost - can you confirm this offer? Give us some prices and lease options.

Please if possible provide the server infomation as well as the connection, length of contract and bandwidth info.

Thanks

James

TotalHst
09-28-2001, 03:20 AM
Please email us at sales@totalhost.cc with the server specs you are looking for, we will get back to you with a monthly price for a lease to own plan. Also let us know how much bandwidth you will be needing, the base is 40 gigs. The price we advertised for 229.00 a month for 4 monthes was for a P3 1.0 Ghz 30 Gig HD 256 Megs Ram. We can also offer other systems for that price, we can get you the price you want.

rmartin
09-28-2001, 08:13 AM
hi,


I dont understand how you can be making any more from this.

299 for 4 months = 1296

server you specified would typically cost 1000 to purchase leaving

300 for bandwidth costs

/ 4 months = 75 per month

allowing up to 30% profit = 52 per month

I can only surmise that the connection is via a 56k modem or ISDN


=====================


<<EDIT>>

4 month just sounds wrong

OR maybe its just my adding up :)

oops,, it says 229 not 299 like i calculated. better make it a 33.6k modem :)

TotalHst
09-28-2001, 10:35 AM
We get wholesale prices for our servers, this is why we can be so cheap. Our connection is not an ISDN, that would be redicules. We run on a DS3 right now, and in the next 60 days we will be getting in another fiber line. We are running this offer because we want to show how high quality our services are. This is a way for everyone to get a great deal on a server and for you to find out how much you really have to pay to get quality services and support. If you have any question don't hesitate to email us.

DNCOO
09-28-2001, 10:53 AM
Yes, we get wholesale prices as well... I still don't see how you can get a Dual P4 Xeon 2.0GHz + 2GB Ram + 2 80Gb SCSI HD's for $230 / month for 4 months...

Doing the math that's $920 total.


Look at the wholesale price for for all those parts and I don't see it being $920.

I admit I'm a bit skeptical. but hey if you can do it with quality hardware.. I'm greatly impressed.. but still skeptical ;) The simple mathmatics just don't add up, no matter how I do the configuration.

Just for the motherboard that is capable to hold 2 GB of RAM is very expensive! not to mention the 80 GB SCSI Drives.. Take a look at the wholesale price of those babies..

Sorry just sounds way too good to be true....

NORRITT
09-28-2001, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by M34ME
Yes, we get wholesale prices as well... I still don't see how you can get a Dual P4 Xeon 2.0GHz + 2GB Ram + 2 80Gb SCSI HD's for $230 / month for 4 months... :cartman:

funny, and I thought it is me, who has his difficulties with the english language ... read the postings above little more carfully and you will see, that posting was sarcasm (and it was not posted by the topic starter).


to go on topic again. how much is bandwidth? (yeah I know 40GB are included, but how much costs 41GB ? ;))

DNCOO
09-28-2001, 12:47 PM
Norrit,

Totalhst explained that they get their parts at wholesale price.

I simply stated that we too get our parts at wholesale price, I still don't see how they can offer what was posted.

The mathmatics and configuration simply don't add up. Let alone the Return on Investment on their end.

It wasn't sarcasm.. It was a statement.

I forgot to add the little quote thing to my message.. Apologies for the confusion.

DNCOO
09-28-2001, 12:49 PM
Also.. No disrepect intended to Totalhst.


I'm not blasting out at them.. I'm just in wonderment!


Like I previously expressed.. If they can offer this at the price they specified. I'm greatly impressed.


Highest Regards,

TotalHst
09-28-2001, 07:57 PM
We never said we could offer a dual p4 xeon 2.0 , that was sarcasm by that poster. We can offer many great systems for 229 and even better systems for more, please email us or post on here what you're looking for we are sure you will find its deal you would not want to pass up.

MCHost-Marc
09-28-2001, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by biatche
He even decided to add a GeForce3 to it.
I don't think you'll ever need that in a server ...

creid
09-28-2001, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Kiwi

I don't think you'll ever need that in a server ...

hmm unless.....:rolleyes:

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 12:24 AM
Well... since no one is posting specs, i guess we will do some systems just for you guys to get an idea.

Sys 1
Price: 229 /m
Processor: Athlon 1.2 Ghz
Ram: 256
HD: 30 Gig
10/100 Nic

Sys 2
Price: 229 /m
Processor: P3 1 Ghz
Ram : 256
HD: 30 Gig
10/100 Nic

Sys 3
Price: 259/m
Processor: Dual Athlon 1.2 Ghz
HD: 30 GB
Ram: 256
HD: 30 Gig
10/100 Nic

These are just some systems we have compiled for your price reference, like we said post or email us what you want we will reply back with what we can give you. Above prices include colocation price, 40 gig transfer. Let us know if you have any questions.

eddie
09-29-2001, 02:17 AM
My question is, how much do I paid after the 4 months. (once I ownd the server)


:)

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 03:42 AM
After 4 monthes you can choose to have it shipped to you, or you can colocate it on any of our colocation plans, you would just flow over to a colocation plan. Check out our site for those rates, http://totalhost.cc .

Haze
09-29-2001, 04:57 AM
Do you have a list of extras anywhere? If not how much is extra bandwidth? Extra IP's

Ales
09-29-2001, 09:31 AM
Hmm... Totalhst:

I suggest that you fix the numerous spelling mistakes :eek: and other errors on your web pages. If you plan to attract any customers, have your pages done right. Atleast the first page...

On your pages I couldn't find any info on your company, NOC, staff, addresses etc. :rolleyes: Are you incorporated? Where is your NOC? :cartman: Do you know what a NOC is? :D

Sorry for sarcasm, but I couldn't resist....

Ales

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 02:01 PM
Extra bandwidth is available at 3.95 per 2 gigs. Extra IP addresses may be purchased at 2.95 per IP a month. The price for IP's will go down soon, its just because of the web running our of IP's, arin is very tough about issuing IP's right now. And yes, Alice we will go through our web site and correct any errors, we have just recently started doing business through a web site, we were just doing local server rental etc. Obviously we know what a NOC is or we wouldn't have one. We are located in the Los Angeles Area. If you look at the infrastructure page you will find what equipment we use in our NOC. We are a total hosting solution provider dedicated to providing high quality hosting services at affordable prices with excellent support.

SoftWareRevue
09-29-2001, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by TotalHst
. . . . .If you look at the infrastructure page you will find what equipment we use in our NOC. . . . .Do you have any pictures of your NOC??

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 03:14 PM
Currently we do not have any pictures availible on the web. We will be posting some soon, we are getting some new equipment so we want to be able to take pictures including the new equipment.

Ales
09-29-2001, 06:07 PM
ROFL

Totalhst: perhaps your reading is also not at it's best today, my name is Ales not Alice. I would have some redundant bodily parts :D if I have been named Alice, me beeing a male. Ales (Alesh) is a Slovene version of Alex... Since it is a completely unknown name for an English speaking world, I understand your confusion.

Sorry if I offended you in my previous post, it's just that your web site is very uninformative. I'm glad that you decided to review some of the misspelings and other errors on your pages, though.

Here are some questions that I beleive shouldn't stay unanswered:

1 - are you incorporated and what is your office's address?

2 - are you connected to Internap (internap.com) and in what way?

3 - what is the address of your NOC? I have a friend in LA, can he visit your premises for a quick tour?

4 - do you own your NOC or do you share?

5 - what equipment do you use from, let's say, Compaq? You have their logo on your page...

6 - what is your staff and do you provide a 24h support? 30-day money back? Uptime guarantee?

Your offer here at WHT seems remarkable so I beleive it needs a little more tecnical information to back it up. Othervise, good luck with your business and thanks for your time,
Ales

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Ales
ROFL

Totalhst: perhaps your reading is also not at it's best today, my name is Ales not Alice. I would have some redundant bodily parts :D if I have been named Alice, me beeing a male. Ales (Alesh) is a Slovene version of Alex... Since it is a completely unknown name for an English speaking world, I understand your confusion.

Sorry if I offended you in my previous post, it's just that your web site is very uninformative. I'm glad that you decided to review some of the misspelings and other errors on your pages, though.

Here are some questions that I beleive shouldn't stay unanswered:

1 - are you incorporated and what is your office's address?

2 - are you connected to Internap (internap.com) and in what way?

3 - what is the address of your NOC? I have a friend in LA, can he visit your premises for a quick tour?

4 - do you own your NOC or do you share?

5 - what equipment do you use from, let's say, Compaq? You have their logo on your page...

6 - what is your staff and do you provide a 24h support? 30-day money back? Uptime guarantee?

Your offer here at WHT seems remarkable so I beleive it needs a little more tecnical information to back it up. Othervise, good luck with your business and thanks for your time,
Ales

1. No we are not a corporation currently, we are a licenced buisness by the city of LA

2. No we have no connections what so ever with that company.

3. We do not give out address of NOC nor tours for security reasons, that is why we will be posting pictures.

5. Our main web servers are made by Compaq. Our dedicated server rentel and lease to own servers are custom built with only the highest quality hardware.

6. We have toll free support along with 24/7 email support. We offer money back within 15 days if you are not satisfied no questions asked. We currently do not have an uptime gaurentee but our network is at 99.7% uptime right now i believe. Let us know if you have any other questions.

allera
09-29-2001, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by TotalHst
Sys 1
Price: 229 /m
Processor: Athlon 1.2 Ghz
Ram: 256
HD: 30 Gig
10/100 Nic

Sys 2
Price: 229 /m
Processor: P3 1 Ghz
Ram : 256
HD: 30 Gig
10/100 Nic

Sys 3
Price: 259/m
Processor: Dual Athlon 1.2 Ghz
HD: 30 GB
Ram: 256
HD: 30 Gig
10/100 Nic



Who would pick Sys 1 over Sys 3? Heh..

What single CPU boards do you use for P3 and AMD, and what dual CPU boards do you use for the dual P3 and AMD boards? Who makes the harddrives? What kind of cases (tower? 1/2/3U?) Do you offer SCSI solutions for the same price? If so, what kind of SCSI and who makes the components?

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by allera


Who would pick Sys 1 over Sys 3? Heh..

What single CPU boards do you use for P3 and AMD, and what dual CPU boards do you use for the dual P3 and AMD boards? Who makes the harddrives? What kind of cases (tower? 1/2/3U?) Do you offer SCSI solutions for the same price? If so, what kind of SCSI and who makes the components?

We use an assortment of high quality hardware providers. Most of our mother boards come from ASUS but we do use other providers that are top notch in quality. For our dual mother boards we use multiple harware providers as well, but ASUS and Microsystems are the main ones. These systems all come in towers. SCSI solutions will need to be custom quoted, if you have a specific system could you please email us exactly what you want then we can get back to you with exactly how much its going to cost you per month.

SoftWareRevue
09-29-2001, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by TotalHst
. . . . . 3. We do not give out address of NOC nor tours for security reasons, that is why we will be posting pictures.
. . . . . .Let us know if you have any other questions. Okay. I have a question. What type of "security reason" do you have that prevents you from posting the address of your NOC??

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 09:57 PM
Our security advisors, have advised us not to do so because if no one knows where the NOC is, this will obviously lower our vulnerability. This is the only reason we do not give out the address to the NOC. I'm sorry if this upsets you but, a safe NOC is better then an unsafe NOC. I'm sure you'll agree with us there.

Dylan
09-29-2001, 10:51 PM
Our security advisors, have advised us not to do so because if no one knows where the NOC is, this will obviously lower our vulnerability. This is the only reason we do not give out the address to the NOC. I'm sorry if this upsets you but, a safe NOC is better then an unsafe NOC. I'm sure you'll agree with us there.

:crap:

creid
09-29-2001, 11:34 PM
From that post, i get the feeling its in somebody's house.....:(

allera
09-29-2001, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by TotalHst
Our security advisors, have advised us not to do so because if no one knows where the NOC is, this will obviously lower our vulnerability. This is the only reason we do not give out the address to the NOC. I'm sorry if this upsets you but, a safe NOC is better then an unsafe NOC. I'm sure you'll agree with us there.
Are you worried someone will bomb or infiltrate it? Vulnerable to what? :)

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 11:41 PM
Well anything I guess. Nothing bad can happen to a facility that no one knows where it is. So this is just a security measure.

allera
09-29-2001, 11:52 PM
Are you the owner of the NOC, or just rent space in a NOC somewhere in LA? How long has your company been around?

TotalHst
09-29-2001, 11:57 PM
Yes we do own our facility. We have been around for a little under a year locally and have just recently started taking orders via the web.

Dylan
09-30-2001, 12:08 AM
Well anything I guess. Nothing bad can happen to a facility that no one knows where it is. So this is just a security measure.

:erm: :uhh:

<<MOD EDIT>>
Maybe the NOC doesn't exist even, but I hardly think another host should be posting the types of comments posted. Ask if you have questions, but try to be respectful.
<</MOD EDIT>>

TotalHst
09-30-2001, 12:12 AM
We will have to report that to a moderator if you keep going like this. If you guys don't care about security that is not our problems. I mean come on why is there so much bashing in this forum if its that big of a deal that we don't want to give out the address then we will just stop posting now. We care about our clients more then this, so please just stop. We want to be secure; again let us know if we need to stop posting in this forum.

MCHost-Marc
09-30-2001, 12:13 AM
Florence Avenue? Just wondering ...

I honestly don't see whats wrong with letting customers know where their servers are located.

Ericd
09-30-2001, 12:18 AM
S Hobart Bldv., Hawthome, CA?

TotalHst
09-30-2001, 12:21 AM
Fine if you guys are dieing to know, our NOC is located a little outside of LA, in a town called San Clemente. Below is our address.

795 Calle Vallarta
San Clemente, CA 92673

Dylan
09-30-2001, 12:26 AM
In a previous thread you state: servers are connected to our high speed redundent connection

What connection do you offer?

Is your sales office located in the facility? I'm hinting on the the phone number... anybody click... remember the map locator?

I have never known a facility not to provide their address. Their is alot of logic behind it.

You provide co-location right? Where does a person ship their servers to?

TotalHst
09-30-2001, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Dylan
In a previous thread you state: servers are connected to our high speed redundent connection

What connection do you offer?

Is your sales office located in the facility? I'm hinting on the the phone number... anybody click... remember the map locator?

I have never known a facility not to provide their address. Their is alot of logic behind it.

You provide co-location right? Where does a person ship their servers to?

I think you posted that late Dylan, we just provided address; sorry i needed clearence, and i got it. Our toll free number is routed to us mainly for support, we do not want to have that office out side our facility because then we would not be able to fix an issue as quickly. Also, our connection is on our high speed DS3 line. We will be adding another DS3 in the next 60 days adding extra redundent connection.

Dylan
09-30-2001, 12:35 AM
Who provides the DS3 line?

TotalHst
09-30-2001, 12:39 AM
When we started out we had a dual T-1 line from Metanet. When we upgraded to a DS3 we were still with metanet. But a few monthes later down the road we noticed our IP Block sub owner change to Earthlink. So we think that earthlink bought out Metanet because obviously the sub-info would not have changed but we still talk with "Metanet" when we call for somthing. They have always been great though, we really haven't had any downtime from them, and their support is excellent. We will sadly have to choose another providor for out next line because of redundency but they will still serve us good.

Ericwenlong
09-30-2001, 02:39 AM
I am curious to ask this. What is the max burstable limit of bandwidth?

totalhost
09-30-2001, 03:41 AM
It is a 45 megabit line so you can burst up to that.

mickmel
02-01-2002, 10:12 PM
So has anyone tried TotalHost? How are they?

Mickey

Incognito
02-01-2002, 10:54 PM
I feel like I just entered a time warp and the original poster in on an old TV show hosted by Ted Mack....does anyone remember the show's name?

J/K

But a friendly word of advice to Total Host....
1) Clean up your site, be a little better prepared when posting...look at some of the other posts of more experienced hosts and follow their patterns.
2) Be prepared and tough skinned because you will be attacked or at least questioned hard...some legitimate...some not so much.
3)Decide what information you will and will not be willing to share. It is your decision. But, be prepared to take and accept criticism by those who don't like your decision.

Maturity and professionalism will help you cope in a forum like this. And maturity is not a matter of age, just approach. You got off to a less than perfect start, but you can rectify that with a little more carefully thought out plan.

Vegadark
09-08-2002, 05:39 PM
i was with totalhost for like 6 months and they have been down now for aprox 3 weeks.