Why do people have to drink and/or party to have fun? I dont get it. As you can tell, by me asking in this post, that I have recently had a problem with it. I just dont know why.

Its more of a relationship type issue. I just dont see why you need to go to a bar, or a club to have fun. Call me old fashion... or is that considered old fashion. I want to go out with people, you know.. get off of this computer every once in a while.. but it seems like anyone i want to hang out with wants to drink, or party, or go clubbin.. and thats just not me. I would consider going to a Movie, having dinner... the more.. calmer stuff.. as a good time.

But it seems like everyone i meet... is into drinking. Im not sure if its a maturity thing or what. And i have a hard time looking past it.

Not to mention all of the friends i have that i just dont understand why they go and party... or club.. to me its like.. come on.. this is what you do for fun???


What do you think?


To those who drink.. no offense to you.. .but moreso.. why do you drink/party?

I feel the same way as you.

Me too.

Frozen pizza, some popcorn, watch a DVD with my wife. That's a real man's idea of fun! :D

Heh... I also do neither but then again I'm single so I just stare at a computer screen all day.

Both are fun to me. I'd rather go out clubbin though as it gives you more of a chance to meet new people. Going to the movies and out to dinner, you're hanging out with the same people every time. Ya know, I like variety?

drinking: i am russian, it is a call of nature =]
clubbing/dancing: i enjoy it. i've owned a party/music promotion business in europe. if you enjoy music, well-dressed, good-looking energetic, cheerful and outgoing people, clubbing is a lot of fun.

nothing says you have to enjoy the same things others do. i enjoy working out, going to the movies, driving at double the speed limit, street art and a whole bunch of other things. i enjoy my work (running my business) quite a lot as well.

on the other hand, dining out as a form of entertainment is foreign to me. i enjoy an excellent steak with a good, hearty czech or bavarian lager as much as the next guy, but it is hardly conducive to a profound metaphysical discussion. i have no idea how eating out can qualify as a date, as you are reduced to watching the other person eat and making smalltalk till the food arrives. i always have something else to do before or after dinner lined up for a date (usually before, since i like the ability to ditch complete basket cases before im forced to listen to their ramblings during dinner).

paul

I used to have the anti-drinking / party attitude, i thought i'd never drink and thought that everybody that did it was stupid and i never wanted to be like them. But then i tried alcohol and went to a few parties and saw all the fun people were having....

It’s not something that i could do every day and have fun with it, but on the occasion going to a party or a club can be a lot of fun, if you haven't done it before, give it a try.

-Dennis

About ten years back I spent the new years even on a watch tower in a forest. It was just me and a friend who had gone on a bike to spend some good time in the mountains and forests. Luckily we did not get any accomodation in any resort or cabin so we were heading to a town and then suddely we saw this wooden watch tower in the forest next to a stream. We camped there for the night strumming a guitar and just sitting quitely without making any noise. In the morning we got down to the stream to find a large herd of spotted deer taking a drink of the water. We followed them for a while into the thick forest and finally gave up since they were soon losing interest in us and started to run faster.

We didnt do any party kind of drinking there. Just a small pint of rum for me to keep me warm and my friend smoked a couple of joints to inspire him to play the guitar. lol

Originally posted by RajanUrs
About ten years back I spent the new years even on a watch tower in a forest. It was just me and a friend who had gone on a bike to spend some good time in the mountains and forests. Luckily we did not get any accomodation in any resort or cabin so we were heading to a town and then suddely we saw this wooden watch tower in the forest next to a stream. We camped there for the night strumming a guitar and just sitting quitely without making any noise. In the morning we got down to the stream to find a large herd of spotted deer taking a drink of the water. We followed them for a while into the thick forest and finally gave up since they were soon losing interest in us and started to run faster.

We didnt do any party kind of drinking there. Just a small pint of rum for me to keep me warm and my friend smoked a couple of joints to inspire him to play the guitar. lol

LOL

:D

The Dude :)

Originally posted by rusko
drinking: i am russian, it is a call of nature =]
clubbing/dancing: i enjoy it. i've owned a party/music promotion business in europe. if you enjoy music, well-dressed, good-looking energetic, cheerful and outgoing people, clubbing is a lot of fun.

nothing says you have to enjoy the same things others do.

Drinking: I am American, and it seems like nothing but a drunkenfest here... to me at least.. ;)

Clubbing: The way you put it... it doesnt sound all that bad. I would be up for that. As long as it is Civil. It seems like everyone I know that clubs, goes there, gets drunk.. and makes nothing but a fool of themselves. Granted, to a sober one, that is entertainment enough... but still, not my style. I LOVE music... as long as it isnt rap/techno.. so uhh... there goes the clubs.. haha... and who doesnt enjoy good looking people?

I'm all about being civil...

Originally posted by Dmax
I used to have the anti-drinking / party attitude, i thought i'd never drink and thought that everybody that did it was stupid and i never wanted to be like them. But then i tried alcohol and went to a few parties and saw all the fun people were having....

It’s not something that i could do every day and have fun with it, but on the occasion going to a party or a club can be a lot of fun, if you haven't done it before, give it a try.

-Dennis

For one, I will always have the anti-drinking attitude, as I will never drink. Nothing to it. AS far as people who do it... I dont think they are stupid... I just dont have as much respect for them. If they dont have enough respect for themselves to drink, then thats fine. As for partying, I have never been to a party, and people tell me not to knock it till i try it. But all the parties seem to involve drinking, too much drinking leads to stupidity... Again, im not up for that.. I like the civilness of things.

Tell me... was the fun they were having because they were drunk? Or how would you consider the fun? Im just wondering... Im trying to figure this out for myself... because maybe its just me...

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I am glad to see that I am not the only one that has this problem...

I still would like to hear what people have to say... IS IT ME?

I think it depends on age and how you were raised. I don't feel like going to clubs and being around a bunch of posers. I hate being around people I don't want to know. I think this has something to do with the way I was raised. I'd think that most of those clubbers are spoiled rich kids who have nothing to worry about so they worry about social status. They see it in the movies and try to be cool. Just to be seen.

That's just me though.

:pimp:

Originally posted by teammobot
I think it depends on age and how you were raised. I don't feel like going to clubs and being around a bunch of posers. I hate being around people I don't want to know. I think this has something to do with the way I was raised. I'd think that most of those clubbers are spoiled rich kids who have nothing to worry about so they worry about social status. They see it in the movies and try to be cool. Just to be seen.

That's just me though.

:pimp:

I agree... on some... In this case, if you havent noticed, I am talking about one thing in general, thats bothering me... And I dont really see it being as age or how they were raised, because they are of many different ages, and it would seem as they were raised in a manner that would prevent this, based on their other actions -- which for the most part, are very humble... I think it more is based on maturity (or lack thereof).

The poser statement... I am going to refer to those as "wannabes" and I cant stand them either. It goes down to what you said, about social status. Its almost as if the people that do this are insecure?


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I really hate poser kids too, i try to stay away from parties where there are a ton of kids that keep saying "i'm so drunk" and think that people think they are cool because they are drunk.

I don't think age is a big deal, i personally am 17 and i tried alcohol for the first time when i was 16.

You really shouldn't bash it until you try it, its true, all my friends always told me that before i tried it cause i always made fun of them and called them stupid, then i tried it and realized that it wasn't so bad. It can be bad though if it starts to interfear with your school or job. Also its not good if you start to hang out with "Drinking Buddies". I have had a few of those and I've just realized that it is a waste of my time to hang out with them because they only would hang out with me when i was drinking... drinking is only good if it doesn't change your current lifestyle in a major way, in my opinion.

-Dennis

Originally posted by theqase

I am glad to see that I am not the only one that has this problem...

I still would like to hear what people have to say... IS IT ME?

I wouldn't call it a problem, and I certainly wouldnt say that "it's you"

drinking, like "extreme" sports, is something that a person may do for any number of reasons.

it could be for the feeling, for the company, as an escape or just because your friends say its cool.

you could try it once, and hate it, try it once and be stuck on it for the rest of your life, or do it on the weekends as a way to relax.

When I drink it's never for a particular reason. Provided I'm in the company of friends and havent drunk to excess I always enjoy it.

Drinking does not have to rob a person or an event of civility: eat a gourmet meal with a glass of wine; go to a jazz club to enjoy the music and the taste of the cocktail on special; have a cool one on the back porch after work. Getting drunk isn't always the outcome of drinking, nor is alcoholism or boorish behaviour. I agree that at times it may seem to be a deplorable habit, but that all depends on the company.

check out http://toefur.com/straightedge/ you'll find it to be a friendly community full fo people who have similar views to your own

I used to drink and be a serious partier.. But all those days of boozing ate holes in my gut.. Now I can't swallow a drop of booze without tossing it back up again..

I drink beer on rare occasions but not often. Usually I only drink rare imports if offered.. I can't tollerate American malt beverages.

The thing that bothers me and I have never understood is why people think it is ok to use their drinking as an excuse to do something they would not normally have done sober.

Anything that I would do when drunk, I would do when sober.

I'm a straightedge vegetarian.

i drink cause i want to... sometimes to much and sometimes just enough. I dont know why. I have the "calm" fun(movies and what not) but some times u need to cut loose and get drunk.

Originally posted by theqase
but it seems like anyone i want to hang out with wants to drink, or party, or go clubbin.. and thats just not me. I would consider going to a Movie, having dinner... the more.. calmer stuff.. as a good time.


I do all that and more with friends. Clubbing and drinking is what we do at night because sometimes, there's only so much you can do.

Before a night of clubbing/drinking, we have dinner together and maybe a movie. Sometimes we just sit around with a bottle of wine and talk till we get kicked out of a place. :)

theres nothing wrong with partying... if it's sane, it's all good

but... I have always wondered about drinking

why would anyone intentionally poison themselves? to this day I still cannot comprehend.

yes, but its more fun if its INsane =]

paul

My own theory is that while there are plenty of people who genuinely do enjoy going to clubs and dancing, mingling with large crowds of people, chatting and whatnot, there are also lots of people who are just looking for some direction in their life and believe that it will be provided by externals: ie, their job, their religion, their husband/wife, their church, what have you. They want to be happy, but haven't got the faintest idea of what would make them happy. So off to the clubs they go, partially because the media image of such places is "nonstop fun and happiness and partying (and, by extension, social acceptance)".

As to why people intentionally poison themselves: refined sugar is a poison. Caffeine is a poison (a single drop undiluted will kill an adult human). Yet computer geeks, as a social group, count sugar and caffeine as two of our unofficial food groups. (I would be hard-pressed to give up caffeine.) I'm thinking that some people drink because they genuinely like the stuff, and some people drink just because the drink is there. They rarely think about the long-term effects, especially if they're addicted.

Everything in moderation...including moderation. And only the individual can define what will make them happy. If it isn't inside, you won't be able to magically find it by changing what's outside.

Well.. I certainly am not knocking partying, Im sure there are civil parties out there... Im just never invited. Civil or Not. And I think I am not invited because people see how I view parties... I dont know. I dont really knock drinking, I just disagree with it. I was raised not to drink, and I am christian, and dont believe in drinking.

But what I am trying to do is rationalize partying... Why do people do it? Would it be so bad if I went? I dont know. I dont really see the need for the "Social Acceptance" as one said, because I believe in who I am, not what others think of me. However, I would like to be with people who I like for who they are... but try not to like them (or not like them) because of what they do... You see where I am coming from?

Its just hard.

Also, thanks for that straightedge link... Im gonna see what they have to say...

I use to think drinking was stupid until I tried it. Now I go clubbing and drinking about once a week.

Heres what I like about it.


I have a great time dancing away in clubs. Not too likely to do that when im sober.
Will speak to and dance with attractive girls. Would be too shy to do that when completely sober.
Alcohol helps me forget about my work and just have fun.
Its a good excuse for all of my friends to meet up.


There are of course some disadvantages.

Hangovers, if you dont drink too much then this shouldnt be too much of a problem.
Sometimes do some silly things, again dont drink too much.


For me the advantages outway the disadvantages, especially the girls bit ;)