I've been with FDCServers for just about a month now.

My reviews:

(1). Got the P4 server from them 4hrs later, after the payment.
(2). Impressive speed.
(3). Since: 11/23/2003, Outages: 14, Total Uptime: 98.090%
(4). About the support, replied within 2hrs.
(5). No DDoS. (phew) :rolleyes:

FDC needs to make some improvement on their Network.

Not a very good review, but I will come back again in a month for further reviews..

Well, had a lot of their reviews here :)

(3). Since: 11/23/2003, Outages: 14

OUCH. theres only 1 really sad part about that thats improvement since the last fdc i had.

14 outages!!!!! ouch!!! thats pretty sad. fdc should stop selling servers for now and focus on strengthing their network

They look at the most profitable choice, not the best for the customers ;)

heh - FDC

not too many positive things come to my mind :confused:

Just had another 5mins outage. LOL!

Your server might of had 14 outages but I do not think the network did. I had one outage in the past 8 weeks, the other day when the switch I was on had a problem, they fixed it in under 10 minutes. I guess I am lucky :-)

Network improvement is always a good thing.

heh music starting to wonder if you work for fdc as all the publicity i always see you pretty well advertising them and giving them good words.

FDC Sux0rz?

Music is right, I had one outage only on my server too in the past two months, and it's single homed (Yipes) not BGP4.

I monitor two competitors using FDC and atleast twice in the past week I've picked up short downtimes at the same time for both hosts.

Here's what I have for stats;
Host 1:
2003 December 6 99.217% 4 hrs, 0 mins
2003 November 5 99.359% 4 hrs, 30 mins

Host2:
2003 December 4 99.316% 3 hrs, 30 mins
2003 November 3 99.644% 2 hrs, 30 mins

The Yipes line have been getting outages, but they were no more than 1-5min each. So many probably wont have noticed them :)

And I think one of the hosts Ino monitored is our server

I did noticed them because my speed shudennly jump down to 100KB/s constantly on 10Mbit server

People, FDC is a joke!

Everyday it's an outage, everyday they are changing switches, everyday there is a Ddos atack.

Please don't waste your money as I did.

Merry Christmas!

Originally posted by null
People, FDC is a joke!

Everyday it's an outage, everyday they are changing switches, everyday there is a Ddos atack.

Please don't waste your money as I did.

Merry Christmas! Ill second that, nothing but outages every day, how they even stay in business is beyond me. The worst thing is, they seem not to worry too much unless it is a major outage ie the whole datacentre has lost power. They do provide unmeted services ..... unmetered downtime and unmetered excuses.

They really do need to invest some of their profits into the Disaster Centre and its lines otherwise next year i feel we may be asking "who remembers FDC Servers.net" :D

Originally posted by Sash!
Ill second that, nothing but outages every day, how they even stay in business is beyond me. The worst thing is, they seem not to worry too much unless it is a major outage ie the whole datacentre has lost power. They do provide unmeted services ..... unmetered downtime and unmetered excuses.

They really do need to invest some of their profits into the Disaster Centre and its lines otherwise next year i feel we may be asking "who remembers FDC Servers.net" :D




I doubt they will go out of business there are way to many stupid people out there who fall for the "unmetered" ploy and think wow! Yes they are horrible I was one of the stupid ppl who decided to give them a try 8 months ago.. horrible network horrible support and now just average prices.

For non mission critical stuff FDC is fine. If they go down for a few minutes at night I would not even notice it and for the price do not really care.

maybe good for an irc server if allowed :D

i would rather pay few $ more ... and get a better dedicated server!

i was with them 2 years back. and i repeat my mistake last July.

Originally posted by music
For non mission critical stuff FDC is fine. If they go down for a few minutes at night I would not even notice it and for the price do not really care. If only they just went down for a few monutes at night! When i had a server with them, it was down for hours at a time, in fact once it was down for nearly 4 hours due to network fault. When FDC go down, you usually know about it.

They go down reguarly, maybe as many as 5 times a day sometimes, and usually each downtime can ba around an hour!

I can accept a few minutes downtime in the day even, but its not the case with FDC. Anyone who is with them, i feel really sorry for, they need to leave and get a proper company ;)

Even a provider for a back-up solution can't be down that much. What would happen if you needed to restore a back-up and your back-up server was down for hours? Sort of defeats the purpose of an offsite back-up server doesn't it?

heh not to mention servermatrix is same price as fdc granit its not unmetered but thing with servermatrix if needed u can actually do that 1tb of transfer unlike fdc so for the price no fdc isnt worth it

Yes, but they are almost never down 6 times a day for over 2 hour each time.

I was seriously considering FDCservers before I read this, but now I'm at square one again, I had a server just recently and there were fatal problems with the operating system, nothing that I could do be myself, and I found that out after paying two system administrators to try and figure out the problem. I need a decent host, good connectivity, and I need them to allow PayPal or eCheck payments. IRC would be nice but not a requirement, I'm going to read through as much of this message board as I can and try to make a choice based on everything here, but does anyone know a good host that I might be able to go with?

Originally posted by 93.3
I was seriously considering FDCservers before I read this, but now I'm at square one again, I had a server just recently and there were fatal problems with the operating system, nothing that I could do be myself, and I found that out after paying two system administrators to try and figure out the problem. I need a decent host, good connectivity, and I need them to allow PayPal or eCheck payments. IRC would be nice but not a requirement, I'm going to read through as much of this message board as I can and try to make a choice based on everything here, but does anyone know a good host that I might be able to go with?

If we saved one person from the wrath of FDC, then this thread was worth it. :D

Nocster/BurstNET accept PayPal and i have had no problems with them. Also, look through the dedicated server part of the forums, there are a lot of smaller companies that accept it.

Good Luck ;)

I'm looking at Nocster right now and I like what I see so far, this will definatly be a possible host. Thanks.

Originally posted by 93.3
I'm looking at Nocster right now and I like what I see so far, this will definatly be a possible host. Thanks. Their network has been pretty solid, other people have sed they had a 4 hour downtime a few weeks ago but other then that i dont think there has been much.

On another note I have just submitted a support ticket as i have trojans on one of my servers. The ticket was submitted at 11:21 and was followed up by a Burst member of staff at 11:24, who was very friendly and has got on with solving the problem. Very very happy. :)

Best of all maybe for you, they accept PayPal. Im with a reseller however, he is extremely helpful (we all know Nocster are not really "managed" soltuions). Maybe you should consider it, its extra support should you need it ;)

I'm reading over all their policies right now, do you actually have to sign and submit that contract on their website? The contract looks a bit scary if you ask me, I'm really not sure about it, if something were to happen I'm basically the only one to blame. :S

Well, it doesn't look that way, I'm going to go for a low end P4 deal, if I'm impressed I'll consider upgrading, etc. But now I face another problem, Red Hat 9 EOL is coming and I'm wondering if their enterprise edition is really worth it, anyone know what I should do?

Originally posted by 93.3
Well, it doesn't look that way, I'm going to go for a low end P4 deal, if I'm impressed I'll consider upgrading, etc. But now I face another problem, Red Hat 9 EOL is coming and I'm wondering if their enterprise edition is really worth it, anyone know what I should do?

you Should contact them by email or online chat Or question them on their advertisement post Or Should open another thread on queries abour Nocster.

This thread is on FDCServers.

To hell with fdc and dont even bother going on their forums as every packet loss and horrible speed post gets deleted if it gets a lot of attention as i happen to do every now and then :P
Everyone provides their traceroutes, and hard evidence and the thread gets deleted.
I ask the forum mods why it was deleted and they tell me that the info in there was relevent.

Here's an example: http://www.bhaad.com/fdc/SCH2PL_11-09-2003.txt

Hello,

If I were to run a non-mission critical Streaming server from an FDC Server, would you advice against or in favore?

Thanks and God Bless!

Ive run ShoutCast servers at FDC before today ..... about 75% uptime, it was a disgrace!

I would not bother! ;)

Originally posted by CCF Hosting
Hello,

If I were to run a non-mission critical Streaming server from an FDC Server, would you advice against or in favore?

Thanks and God Bless!



I think it's been beat to death now but STAY AWAY from FDCservers, their network is horrible, support is horrible and prices are just average. No reason to choose them.

FDC is the worst there is someone i know that absolutly loves fdc because he knows a tech there and gets the hookups but they have so much downtime its not evenfunny, i mean its starting too look like @webhost for those of you that know them

It's kind of funny, in a wierd way I suppose. FDC reps used to defend the company even the owner "bummer" now I think they know it's so bad that there just is no point to even try defending.

Originally posted by thelinuxguy
FDC is the worst there is someone i know that absolutly loves fdc because he knows a tech there and gets the hookups but they have so much downtime its not evenfunny, i mean its starting too look like @webhost for those of you that know them

I think i know the person you have in mind steve :) He doesnt seen to care that he gets all this downtime, as long as he gets his extra "perks"

Bummer probably has better things to do than argue on WHT and or with past users that got booted for breaking the TOS policy.

I think He started with 1 server a few years ago and now owns a million dollar Data Center. Either Bummer must be doing something right or it is just so easy to open and operate a data center that the laws of business do not apply and anyone can make money at it.

Must be it is just that EASY and we should all have our own million dollar data center :-).

Originally posted by Heymish
I think i know the person you have in mind steve :) He doesnt seen to care that he gets all this downtime, as long as he gets his extra "perks" \


yeah thats him heymish...dual xeon for the price of a p4 :S

I think He started with 1 server a few years ago and now owns a million dollar Data Center. Either Bummer must be doing something right or it is just so easy to open and operate a data center that the laws of business do not apply and anyone can make money at it.

Must be it is just that EASY and we should all have our own million dollar data center :-).

He owns space in the Chicago Board of Trade center. Doesn't own his own building.

Originally posted by inogenius
He owns space in the Chicago Board of Trade center. Doesn't own his own building. And i doubt he will even own that for much longer, the state his network is in!

Originally posted by music
Bummer probably has better things to do than argue on WHT and or with past users that got booted for breaking the TOS policy.

I think He started with 1 server a few years ago and now owns a million dollar Data Center. Either Bummer must be doing something right or it is just so easy to open and operate a data center that the laws of business do not apply and anyone can make money at it.

Must be it is just that EASY and we should all have our own million dollar data center :-).

this has to be the most iddiotic comment ive heard in a LONG time. a million dollar data center? what are you on?

id value his data center @ no more than $200,000. and for that matter, ask yourself how much of that is owned by the bank & how much of the servers & equipment from cisqo is on lease or payment plans.

apparently, you like to talk out of your ***, otherwise youd sit down and actually examine a business plan. you dont just dump millions into a business where some of the biggest company's in your field are going under. i cant say if FDC is making a profit or taking losses. id wager to say they are taking in profits, because most companies do after the 2nd year.

but to say that he has lots of money & must be doing something right is just not intelligent. he can have a good PR person, or good marketing. He can have proper people handeling his books & he could be cutting corners in quite a few spots.

perhaps before flapping your lips you should examine his books, which i doubt hed open up & take a look @ what the bank owns & what he actually owns.

Originally posted by music
Bummer probably has better things to do than argue on WHT and or with past users that got booted for breaking the TOS policy.

I think He started with 1 server a few years ago and now owns a million dollar Data Center. Either Bummer must be doing something right or it is just so easy to open and operate a data center that the laws of business do not apply and anyone can make money at it.

Must be it is just that EASY and we should all have our own million dollar data center :-).



Wonder what they give you for you to be so loyal, are you on a private line with your own router? If not then you obviously experience the same downtime as everyone else. Which is every yes EVERY day, for at least 10-20 mins. Hard to believe your a paying customer and yet find these ongoing problems "ok".

pre-recorded "music" ?

I have downtime like all the others and I am pre-recorded. I do not get a break from FDC and I only use them for very little stuff
so it would not matter.

A.M., I have been in the data center so I am not the one doing the gum flapping. You show me a place like FDC for $200,000 and I will buy it tomorrow and I will pay you a commission :-)

gladly, come down to atlanta. Ill show you 4, 5 private data centers that are in independent buildings like FDC that were opened and working with $200,000.

lots of money owed to bank & a huge amount of items leased

It is really making me wonder why they dont just stop taking clients for a while and sort out their network. Surely they can see what a reputation they are getting and that people are leaving them every day!

If I was in their position I would seriously take a good look at whats wrong and get it fixed. Either that or bummer wants to go out of business. With places like managed, who have about the same level of support, better prices for better servers and a "so far" perfect network record, FDC have not got long left in the dedicated server business. :)

Originally posted by Sash!
It is really making me wonder why they dont just stop taking clients for a while and sort out their network. Surely they can see what a reputation they are getting and that people are leaving them every day!

If I was in their position I would seriously take a good look at whats wrong and get it fixed. Either that or bummer wants to go out of business. With places like managed, who have about the same level of support, better prices for better servers and a "so far" perfect network record, FDC have not got long left in the dedicated server business. :)



Who know's and who care's anymore, there are so many providers out there how fdc has ANY customers is beyond me. Either they will fix it, or they wont. Either way they have one of if not the worst rep around for dedicated providers.

Want my personal experience with FDC? When I was first starting out I ordered a 1.2 ghz duron from them for 99 bucks a month plus 42 bucks a month for an internal license of cpanel so I was paying 142 bucks for their service, I was figuring that was fine but there were so many downtimes and outages at times I thought FDC had just skipped town because of all the DDoS attacks. Speeds were good at times but also a lot during the night it seemed things would go a lot slower. Techs took forever to answer my questions and after 2 days of using them I got shut down for accidently using an IP block that wasn't assigned to me because they gave me IP blocks with IP's already in use, no warning even. FDC is trouble, my personal recommendation, stay away. Your decision though.

btw music, your comments of saying everyone who speaks ill of FDC, sorry to burst your bubble but i went from having 7 FDCserver boxes to having just 2 now. 1 on the IRC network & 1 on the BGP network. the one on the bgp network is used for adult xxx streaming & the irc well...... obvious reasons.

so you really shouldnt assume that everyone complaining has been removed for "tos violations"

So, FDC is so bad but you still have 2 servers must not be for any commercial use and for PERSONAL USE ONLY. If they are so bad why not get rid of the 2 servers?

Many of the complaints are very real with FDC.

just to set the record straight, i loath fdc & its business practices. i am with them because 1 of the servers is owned by a client & the the adult xxx streaming server, uses well over 3TB of traffic a month & FDC is the most cost effective provider to be on for its means.

and that is my only 2 servers with them. and i wouldnt get another, just happens to be that this server has done what ive needed it to do for 1+ year now & ive invested quite a bit into the dedicated server i have with them. i have order 2 harddrives and paid for extra ram. leaving the server isnt cost effective.

call me a hypocrite, but we all have to eat