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Magnusson2u
12-11-2003, 02:54 PM
I've been reading through the archives for 2 weeks now. But due to friends putting voices in my head, I'm a lil pee-shy.

I am in search of a new shared host (maybe a reseller account will do?) that will pipe-out some good & swift bandwidth with an average usage of 50 gigs and the potential of up to 100gigs. So paying $100 for going over site transfer is out of the question.

I am looking for 1 gig of storage.

I was told to seek non-Wintell systems, and that Xeon chips was the way to go.

I would also like to add/develop my other 2 sites and have a REAL site address/ip to be able to just type "mysite.com" and be able to get to it. Obviously I don't know much...

Also having preinstalled php apps. would benefit my very dyslexic eyes. I'm curently using vbulletin and photopost and can't take advantage of all of their features due to the unix/host I'm dealing with.

I'm looking at 24Hostingnow.com (feel free to suggest anyone), thou my friends dislike their P4 2.4 ghz. Am I just a big uneducated wimp?

Thank you very much,
Magnus

trader7702
12-11-2003, 03:00 PM
I think your friend is a bit picky. Any good hosting provider will make sure you have enough horsepower to satisfy your needs. If you find a good provider, you shouldnt need to worry about how they get their job done, just that they do get it done.

What will you be doing to push that much bandwidth? I ask because you'd be suprised at how many people come here claiming they need gigs and gigs of both bandwidth and disk space, but in reality, they hardly need any at all...

Trader

UmBillyCord
12-11-2003, 03:05 PM
The only one I know:

http://hostrocket.com/

9.95/month
50 Gb ROLLOVER Bandwidth
1000 Mb Storage

nipl
12-11-2003, 03:07 PM
Sure, you'll get those specs...pretty much below $100/mo. Just ignore the crazy deals to start with and then choose the best deal from among the experienced hosts out here.

You are looking at above $15/month to start with at least and upto $40/month...anyone selling below that just falls in the "severely overselling too good to be true" deals

Then check the hosts upgrade path to 100 Gb/mo or the overage, and see if adding up or upgrading doesn't put you past your budget.

Last option, if you really do want to spend $100/mo and host a couple of sites...then get a Celeron type dedicated server from http://servermatrix.com That way you get 1000 Gb bandwidth...yea, that's heavy overselling too but that's the datacenter's problem :D

stephenM
12-11-2003, 03:26 PM
thou my friends dislike their P4 2.4 ghz

LOL... well if that's the case then he needs to seriously get a clue before telling you such crap.

Pentium 4s, especially the higher-powered 2.xghz ones are perfect for almost all server uses (as long as you have the correct amount of RAM for its use, etc). Xeon was mainly created for dual-processor systems.

Magnusson2u
12-11-2003, 04:24 PM
I see. I have a car site that tends to get overflow from a very active 24,000 member forum that I used to be connect with. We're a big family.

So hosting a videoe of even 10 megs can become a problem.

I also have 50 megs (and growing) of pictures that have been viewed roughly 40,000 -/+ times over a 3 month period.

My site is free and without banners/sales for our regular 600+ members.

Thanks for replying. Keep them coming.

. ANy other potentially good hosts for me? I'm not looking for the $15 host. Just the bang for my buck one.

Cheers.

Douglas
12-11-2003, 04:47 PM
To have a pretty rock solid host, you really need to plan on spending about a buck or so a gig for your site. Anything less than that will not only hurt your overall performance, but the server (and potentially the business's) performance.

Let me put it to ya this way...

Go fill your car up at a gas station. You have one gas station that charges $0.15 cents a gallon (when it's costing them at least $0.75 cents a gallon). That business gets 1000 gallons a month. They charge that little in hopes that people won't use ALL of their gas allocation for that month. What happens when someone DOES use all the gas by the 4th of the month? Business is closed until they can refill their tanks.

Basically, that's what happens when you go to a rock bottom dollar host.

You really DO need to revise your budget for your site if you expect to be able to keep it up on a server for any length of time. :)

nipl
12-11-2003, 05:12 PM
Well, I do agree we can't go too low...but don't agree with $1/Gb either. Some of use have Colo servers and have access to REAL Bandwidth and then actual Bandwidth cost falls way below the $1/Gb price.

Coach
12-11-2003, 05:51 PM
It's not a matter of how much the transfer itself costs. The $1 a GB rule of thumb is based on how much it costs to run a business and I think that is a good minimum number to use. Sure, plenty of hosts get tranfer below $1 a gig. It is a matter of all the other costs that are factored in that relates to the $1 a gig to the end user.

Magnusson2u
12-11-2003, 06:29 PM
Things like rollover plans sound nice. But like all frontiersmen, someone needs to make all the mistakes first. I'd like durabilty in a company. No disrespect intended to any company reps. out there.

Thanks

edit: i'm currently eating around 25-30gigs OVER a month now.

Ran
12-11-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Magnusson2u
I see. I have a car site that tends to get overflow from a very active 24,000 member forum that I used to be connect with. We're a big family.

So hosting a videoe of even 10 megs can become a problem.

I also have 50 megs (and growing) of pictures that have been viewed roughly 40,000 -/+ times over a 3 month period.

My site is free and without banners/sales for our regular 600+ members.

Thanks for replying. Keep them coming.

. ANy other potentially good hosts for me? I'm not looking for the $15 host. Just the bang for my buck one.

Cheers.

That looks like a shared hosting solution won't last you too long. Even though you'll get enough space/bandwidth from any shared hosting plan, you won't get enough CPU/RAM power. The site you just described is probably going to need a dedicated server.

mpalamar
12-11-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by nipl
Well, I do agree we can't go too low...but don't agree with $1/Gb either. Some of use have Colo servers and have access to REAL Bandwidth and then actual Bandwidth cost falls way below the $1/Gb price.

Servers may get 1000 gigs of transfer for $150/month but when you start hosting sites that use php, mysql, perl, email, pop3 accounts, serving large files, etc. your server will be lucky to use 400 gigs of actual transfer per month before a noticeable slowdown takes place. Dual cpu scsi systems will be able to transfer more but than your server costs will also be more. $1/GB or more is reasonable for the host and the client.

Magnusson2u
12-11-2003, 08:06 PM
Wow! I hate re-reading my posts.

ANyhoo,

HostRocket's forums show how wrong they would be for me.

net-trend
12-12-2003, 01:32 AM
I'd recommend that you go for a semi-ded solution or VDS/VPS solution.

WebGems
12-12-2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by Prism329
To have a pretty rock solid host, you really need to plan on spending about a buck or so a gig for your site. Anything less than that will not only hurt your overall performance, but the server (and potentially the business's) performance.

Let me put it to ya this way...

Go fill your car up at a gas station. You have one gas station that charges $0.15 cents a gallon (when it's costing them at least $0.75 cents a gallon). That business gets 1000 gallons a month. They charge that little in hopes that people won't use ALL of their gas allocation for that month. What happens when someone DOES use all the gas by the 4th of the month? Business is closed until they can refill their tanks.

Basically, that's what happens when you go to a rock bottom dollar host.

You really DO need to revise your budget for your site if you expect to be able to keep it up on a server for any length of time. :)


Well said. I agree.
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