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Eiv
09-19-2001, 03:40 AM
Anyone know how to get domain listed in the hosting section of yahoo, altavista etc. Also how much would it cost? I have been looking around those search engines, but can't seem to find the info.

Deb
09-19-2001, 04:53 AM
Yahoo: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/suggest/
Altavista: http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/addurl

With most of the engines just look for the "Submit/Suggest a site" links or something close. They are usually at the very bottom...

Lonny
09-19-2001, 06:06 AM
Submission to Yahoo costs $299, and to Altavista it costs $199 - they are using Looksmart so you better submit it on Looksmart.com

slade
09-19-2001, 12:41 PM
Cross your fingers and submit to dmoz.org

Then, find some sites that are in google/yahoo and get them to link to your site.

If you can arrange it, set up another site, and link to yourself. Get this site into dmoz/google/yahoo/etc...

Jaiem
09-20-2001, 02:44 PM
IMO it's worth exhausting all the free submission methods before shelling out $299 to Yahoo.

Tommy
09-21-2001, 04:47 AM
When paying to get listed, some search engines just speed up the process and it doesn't give you a better position.

MSN will get you in within a few weeks instead of a few months.

Jaiem
09-21-2001, 10:30 AM
And don't forget there is no guarantee of remaining listed too!

I've heard reliable accounts of people paying for submission then being delisted a few weeks later and told they have to pay again to be reconsidered!

Lonny
09-21-2001, 01:27 PM
Yahoo is worth every penny - excellent quality of traffic and lots of it :)

SoftWareRevue
09-21-2001, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by FindSP.Com
Yahoo is worth every penny - excellent quality of traffic and lots of it :) But how to know 'exactly' where to be listed. :cartman:

Honu
09-21-2001, 02:02 PM
Aloha
you will be allowed two directory listings with Yahoo
you have a good chance of getting it in for free eventually if you do the suggest route etc...
but do not try the auto submit software etc....
read
http://www.searchenginewatch.com
http://www.searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/features.html
http://www.spider-food.net

mahinder
09-21-2001, 02:44 PM
anyway, yahoo is not a true search engine it is web directory. google is true search engine because it retrives its data throgh bots.

JayC
09-21-2001, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by mahinder
anyway, yahoo is not a true search engine it is web directory. google is true search engine because it retrives its data throgh bots. Your point is valid, but I'd quibble with your definition. What distinguishes a "search engine" from a "directory" is not how each gathers its data but how that data is presented: a directory -- like Yahoo - has an organized, hierarchical structure.

In any case, since the original question referenced Yahoo the discussion of it is relevant even if the name of the topic might not be.

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 02:24 AM
I can submit you for free to hmm let me check how many search engines it can update to.

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 02:25 AM
I can update you to 809,347 search engines.

I can do this for you for free, I will start charging people for this service maybe next month.

Well if intrested please e-mail me at josuee@glexicon.com so we can get started.

kmh
09-22-2001, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Glexicon
I can update you to 809,347 search engines.

I can do this for you for free, I will start charging people for this service maybe next month.

Well if intrested please e-mail me at josuee@glexicon.com so we can get started.
Do you, by any chance, have a list somewhere where I could see which search engines you are submitting to? I would like to know if it includes some of the specific engines I am trying to get listed in. ;)

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 03:03 AM
Alright... I am going to submit my website and I will copy and paste you the list or upload it to my website.

Well I will brb in abour 10-30 minutes.

collief
09-22-2001, 03:12 AM
Hi,

1) If you want users to find you easily, submitting to Yahoo and Looksmart directory is a necessity, but both are charging US$299 which is quite expensive.

2) What you can do if you wish to attract user at Yahoo without paying is to get listed , try Google. Google is Yahoo's search engine. Google bots has the liking to crawl your website throughly with just an URL. Google bot will search all URLS and custom query string URL. This mean that Google bot will save URL such as

http://www.yourcompanyname.com/plans?NThost=29&ordertype=credit&customerid=6582

too.

Often indexing will be made within 3 weeks.

3) You can save your time by submitting your URL submission using these free submission services at www.verysimple.com/submit or www.submitpilot.com

Please check Meta Tags, description and title ( very important, don't abuse !)

4) In the long-run, i think submission to Looksmart and Yahoo will generat more qualifying traffic. Nevertheless, these website does not give u well targeted audience. Try submitting your link to some webmaster's site as such website that focus on PHP, ASP and CGI programming. You can also try submiting your web host profile to many web hosting resources sites out there such as www.acehosts.com , www.Findwebspace.com, www.HostCompare.com and www.HostFinder.Com

Good luck!

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 03:17 AM
My website got submitted to 89% of the search engines and took me about 7 minutes. Also the other 11 % I didn't get submitteed to is because I forgot to choose a catergory to place it into and other foreign search engines and adult search engines.

Full Report for

GlexiconCOM

==========
Statistics
==========
Last Date Submitted : 09/22/01 02:11:39
# sites submitted
on last submission : 809347
Total attempted submissions : 809347
Total Successful Submissions: 208825
Total Failed Submissions : 600470
Total Submission Runs : 1

=======================
Last Submission Report:
=======================

Date: 09/22/01 02:08:28
Total Attempted: 262
Total Successful: 208825
Total Failed: 600470
Total Skipped*: 52




AHH LIST IS TOO HUGE FOR IT TO FIT HERE.
I WILL BRB, I need to upload the list.

Nahh I jsut made it into a text file. here it is.

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 03:20 AM
Forgot this list too..

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 03:22 AM
Arghhh..........

Here is another list of search engines we submitt to.

Glexicon
09-22-2001, 03:28 AM
We are currently getting more spiders to our system so if will be a faster submission to search engines, my parner wants to try something different with this, that sounds very promising.

Eiv
09-22-2001, 04:34 AM
Thx guyz.

I think I know what to do now.

BravoComm
09-22-2001, 10:11 AM
Glexicon --

"I can update you to 809,347 search engines. " Is VERY misleading advertising. Many of the pages you are submitting to are not search engines at all, but rather FFA pages which is something very different.

I figured that you were including FFA's with a number a large as 809,347 but you log file confirms it.

FFA's in my experience generate little to no traffic and your lucky if your link stays up for a couple of days. They are basically spam machines. Trying to bill them as "Search Engines" is very very shady.

My two cents.

jolly
09-22-2001, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Glexicon
I can submit you for free to hmm let me check how many search engines it can update to.

Which software you use for submitting sites. Can you tell us.

:D

texasweb
09-22-2001, 02:12 PM
He is using AddWeb from CyberspaceHQ

Honu
09-22-2001, 09:41 PM
Aloha

hmmm submitting to thousands of engines or pages or directories or ???
are usually worthless
Quality before quantity

I would rather generate 100 targeted leads then 1,000,000 non discript and have them click off.
one it is less bandwith to pay also less chance of load on yor server
less chance of some little moron who is bored deciding to hack into your machine cause his fav porn or warez site is down
and he thinks hmmm maybe I can upload onto your and make you my warez server.

the best I have done for a company is (they were on the web for 5 years at the same number) I got them from 1 million unique to 3 million page views in one month this brought them in about $10,000 a month in sales so it was very direct.

please people if you are serious and want to do stuff do not fall into these a zilliion sites guarantee kind of things they are junk and not worth it .

hand submit to the top 10-15 engines then do a very targeted link trade with sites and targeted search engien pages portals or whatever in your industry.

slade
09-23-2001, 02:06 PM
I'm gonna have to agree with Honu. Anyone can go to hundreds of "submit your URL to a gazillion sites" pages and key in a few lines and have their link and email address spewed all over the web.

Actually, if you look hard enough, you can find that many of these are mainly email harvesters. You submit to them, they grab your email and send you spam the rest of your natural life(and then some!).

I mean seriously folks, how many search engines have you ever heard of?

How many do you actually use?

I'd be willing to bet the answers are "maybe a dozen" and "1 or 2."

Right now, the most promising ones are Google-based(google/yahoo), Goto(Outride) and Inktomi.

gilwe
09-23-2001, 09:51 PM
Glexicon,

which software do you use to submit to those 800,000 search engines ?

Chicken
09-24-2001, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by texasweb
He is using AddWeb from CyberspaceHQ

gilwe
09-24-2001, 07:44 AM
Downloaded AddWeb,
it can submit only to about 1800 sites.

Where can I find list files for expantion ?

Glexicon
09-24-2001, 08:55 PM
Submit your site, then go to report in TEXT file.

1,800 sites? You need to update or you need to purchase a license.

gilwe
09-25-2001, 06:43 AM
Version 3.12, full liecense, comes with a database of 1862 different search engines and can be expanded using files for another sites to submit to. Does the version you own come with 800,000 site list ? Which ver do you use ?

chenwei
09-27-2001, 09:07 AM
anyway, i tried all these submission engine but always can't be added... even it said success.... a few months passed already...

gilwe
09-27-2001, 09:51 AM
I mean there must have been ANY search engine of the 1500 sumbitted that would have added me instantly haven't it ?.....

I haven't got even not one visiotr from new search engines to my (submitted) site ....

Has AddWeb increase any of your sites' traffic, guys ?
of how many percents ?

slade
09-27-2001, 10:07 AM
Go to these search engines...

Search for the terms you think a user would search for to find you. Don't search for your site name.

If you're not in the top 10 for sure(or 20 on the outside), expect about zero traffic.

Now, look at who you're competing with, and what they've done to their site to be in the top 10. Adjust, cross your fingers, and wait for the next update.

Oh, and if this search engine isn't getting a lot of hits(like +10000/day) you're probably wasting your time, unless it's really, really, really targeted to your niche.

Honu
09-27-2001, 02:14 PM
Aloha

I thought I would ad what slade(Andrew) said is a good idea

I just quit working for a aviation Co (long story and bad story)
anyway
it took me some time but we get good ratings in the main directory under what most pilots type in a browser when looking for employment for aviation
the company was AEPS
if you go to Yahoo
aviation employment (I got #1 position)
aviation jobs ( I am in # 7 and would have gotten us in top #3)

google I am in #3 both terms

MSN #2 both terms

so I think I can say I know what I am talking about and have proof in a big indsutry that is very competitive of how to get to the top
it takes time and some money and a lot of back and forth and constant upkeep
there is no miracle cure etc.... or spamming submit programs can not do this kind of results

just thought I would share this so some of you can see proof and dont waste your time with this crap stuff

remember target !!!!!!!!!

and make your page views count.

ebizalive
01-03-2002, 07:34 PM
...I can update you to 809,347 search engines.

There are about 100 search engines that really matters. I regret it but I have to say that such offers means lots of ffa sites and it's a waste of time. Furthermore you consider receiving tons of offers. I were forced to close down two email addresses because of the following spam offers. I'll never do it again. Response is almost zero. It's a waste of time.

John

ebizalive
01-03-2002, 07:35 PM
correction: continue to receive lots of offers...

JayC
01-03-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by nogi
There are about 100 search engines that really matters.You misspelled "10".
;)

Honu
01-03-2002, 08:23 PM
Aloha
hehehehehhe
good catch ;)

Originally posted by JayC
You misspelled "10".
;)

Gurudev
01-03-2002, 08:26 PM
I can update you to 809,347 search engines.

Hmm... really? The last time I counted, there were 1,748,379 search engines. Are you sure you are not missing some of them?:confused:

miami_g
01-03-2002, 08:45 PM
we found looksmart to be the king of bait and switch and we would never recommend giving these leechez a cent.

at the same time we spend 2k/m at goto and yahoo and find it sort of worth it, barely....

in the end referral by satisfied customer is best

automated submission software is blocked/filtered by the search engines that count

and back to looksmart- didnt they tout a relation with msn.
todays announcement from got blows them out of the water for good, where they belong!:mad:

Frosty
01-04-2002, 12:14 AM
So purchasing the "AddWeb 4 Professional Edition & Accutagger Pro COMBO" license for $399.99.....would be stewpid? Who here has used it and has actually gotten good use from it?

:confused:

ebizalive
01-04-2002, 04:22 AM
You mispelled "10"

No - 100 :)

John

JayC
01-04-2002, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by nogi
[B]No - 100 :)
I'd challenge you -- or anyone -- to list here 100 search engines that "really matter." Even assuming that you're using the term generically to include directories like Yahoo, and even metasearch sites like Dogpile, by the time you get past a dozen or so you're talking about resources that get only a few hundred thousand visitors a month (visitors to the search engine site itself, not referrals to yours). By the time you got past 25 or so you're scraping bottom.

The only way to put together a list anywhere near that long would be to do so for a specific site, including industry-specific resources. Even then, traffic from your 100th search site would be far from what would reasonably be termed significant.