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KyleLC23
12-03-2003, 05:06 PM
Hello,

I used emerald billing for a small local isp project I am doing, and it only supports authorize.net merchant account. I am under the age of 18, don't have a dba, don't have a business checking account, so I can't apply. Are there any alternatives to get an account? Maybe a third party that gives me an account or something silimiar? Also parents are out of the question for now.

Please no rude comments or here is another kid running a hosting company, that is not what I am trying to do.

Thanks, Kyle

thedavid
12-03-2003, 05:19 PM
What about your parents? Or a business partner that's of legal age? Since you are under 18, you can't form a legally binding contract, which is why companies like that won't let you have an account(a simplistic explanation, but adequate for wht).

-David

mainarea
12-03-2003, 06:29 PM
Parents might be the only way to go in this case...

- Matt

Akash
12-03-2003, 06:35 PM
I am under the age of 18, don't have a dba, don't have a business checking account, so I can't apply.
Legally, you'll still need a DBA - you can't accept credit cards without one.

And you'll likely need a business checking account - most banks don't allow you to accept funds froma merchant account or vice versa.

Also, curious to know why parents are out of the question? When I was under 18 my parents were more than willing to help me get started.

cdgcommerce
12-03-2003, 08:26 PM
Hi Kyle,

You will definitely need to get partners or an over-18 associate to be the signer on the account. For the reason mentioned earlier in this thread - contracts signed with an underage individual are not legally enforceable.

Most of the other items that you mention can be worked around. (i.e. a Web site can serve as DBA with some merchant processors, and some processors can allow you to use a personal checking account vs. business one)

mainarea
12-03-2003, 09:01 PM
Legally, you'll still need a DBA - you can't accept credit cards without one.
That is incorrect. I know a local doctor who has his own merchant account (through Novus, I believe) and it bills under his name - he does not have a DBA. You don't need a DBA unless you're running a business under a name other than your own - in Kyle's case, he'd probably need one, but it's not necessary in ALL cases. DBAs around here only cost $55 or so (used to be $35 until the county realized that no matter how much they charged, people would still need them :D), and range from about $20-$100+ around the country. To the best of my knowledge, the person's name on the DBA has to be over 18 (I'm not a lawyer or legal expert, so you may want to check this out with your city or county).

- Matt

Akash
12-03-2003, 09:03 PM
I stand corrected :beer:

Anywho - it's still my opinion(and advice) that if you're under 18, you should get a partner that is over 18. If you can't, then don't do business.

demonmoo
12-03-2003, 09:14 PM
NOTE:IANAL and I'm a bit rusty on the whole business registration thing (register and forget eh?) .
This is what I remember:
Over here in ontario you can register as a sole propitership no mater what your age.
To form a coproation you must be the age of majourity in your province (18 to 19 depending on province) .
As a note , even if you do register as a sole sole propitership you will still need some one over the age of 18 to enter into most contracts and as a corporation , although you can own 100% of it, you still cant be the CEO or have authorizing power so you would still need some one over the age of 18 to form and sign the contracts.

vipe
12-03-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by mainarea
DBAs around here only cost $55 or so (used to be $35 until the county realized that no matter how much they charged, people would still need them :D), and range from about $20-$100+ around the country.

Wow, talk about getting ripped... it's only $11 for one here.

aingaran
12-03-2003, 11:17 PM
Well, if you have a DBA if you're under 18 there is no way in hell any company will give you a merchant account.

Like others have suggested the only solution to your problem is to get an adult and get the account setup under their names.

aingaran
12-03-2003, 11:18 PM
To get a merchant account, you need to have a good credit rating.

If you're under 18, I doubt you'll have a good rating, or any rating at all.

cdgcommerce
12-04-2003, 03:23 AM
aingaran is correct about how no merchant processor will setup a merchant account for someone under 18. Just won't happen - it would make no sense... signing up a merchant and taking full financial liability with a contract that you can't enforce?

It is not a reflection on age but rather the way the law is setup. There might be some 15 year olds who run a business as well or better than a some 18 year olds - but the law doesn't "see" them in the same light.

In terms of the credit issue - as long as an account signer has a valid SSN# that matches up, they can get a merchant account with several different processors even if they have no credit or bad credit.

Biowaste XP
12-04-2003, 03:58 AM
I am 18 and I partnered up with someone who is highly knowledgable, but under the age of 18. Therefore, I did all of the agreements/bindings for our merchant account/gateway and bank account. If you know someone that you trust, see if they are willing to sign for you.