I have problems using EV1 for domain registration
there system says my IP address is blocked.

every IP address i used and tried to register new domain ev1 says IP address is blocked. :(

I need to register new domain ASAP.

Whats the altenative to EV1 with $6 and below range for .com domains?

No one that I am aware of

www.bigfoot.com

havent tried em, dont know.

Originally posted by kohashi
www.bigfoot.com

havent tried em, dont know.

Read the fine print of their agreement.

Originally posted by kohashi
www.bigfoot.com

havent tried em, dont know.

i dont see anything cheaper than 9.95?

www.namecheap.com 8.88

ev1 is an exception in the domain world. They're purposely making a about a $2 (or more) loss on each domain as a promotion; so its very unlikely you'll find another reliable company.

iregistrations.com advertises 5.99 domains, but they will automatically bill you $40/month for other services (hosting and SEO). Read the fine print there :)

I believe the problem is because you are residing in Asia. Are you ? I have this problem but if in am on a US IP subnet everything is well.

who (doing solely on domain reg. services) would had their business running at losses when they are paying $6 from Verisign for each name...

Those providing DN registration, along with OTHER services, would likely to attach string condition to it when they are pricing the name below $6(or even $6.xx) tag.

So read the agreement CAREFULLY!!;)

Powerpipe (http://www.powerpipe.com/) is an eNom reseller with $7.99 domains. Hostway (http://www.hostway.com/domain/index.htm) has $6.95/year domain registration, but I've never used them and don't know what the restrictions are, if any.

Originally posted by newk
I have problems using EV1 for domain registration
there system says my IP address is blocked.

every IP address i used and tried to register new domain ev1 says IP address is blocked. :(

I need to register new domain ASAP.

Whats the altenative to EV1 with $6 and below range for .com domains?

It seems because of EV1 system. It happened with me, too. But it's ok now. I just registered another domain with them.

so they blocked and unblocked your ip range?

I have recently two domians with ev1....simply superb...but I think you can email to domains@ev1servers.net for their help...they usualy respond within 24hr.

PowerPipe holds domains hostage if you try and transfer. From what I have been hearing, I would stay away from them.

web.com is selling names for $6.95, have not used them so I do not know if they are good/bad

Originally posted by kohashi
PowerPipe holds domains hostage if you try and transfer. From what I have been hearing, I would stay away from them. Hmmm, I was not aware of that. I wonder what eNom would think of that? Although you shouldn't have to fight to transfer your domain, it seems like an e-mail to eNom should push it through. It seems like it would be easier just to let you have your damn domain than the support costs of fighting with a user for a couple bucks a year profit. :P

Either way, I'm not afraid of paying more for my domains because features and service are important to me for most of my domains (and for the throwaway and temporary/cheap projects, I use ev1).

Originally posted by The Spook
Either way, I'm not afraid of paying more for my domains because features and service are important to me for most of my domains (and for the throwaway and temporary/cheap projects, I use ev1).
But why would you need eNom's "features and service"? When those domains are not for temporary projects, you probably need some HOSTING, right? Just curious. I actually think the other way round would be more reasonable: using eNom for throwaways while EV1 for big projects.

Originally posted by nameslave
I actually think the other way round would be more reasonable: using eNom for throwaways while EV1 for big projects. Because EV1 is cheap (temp projects) and eNom resellers have DNS, URL and e-mail forwarding, but cost double. RegisterFly, and eNom reseller, also provides spam protection (free) and WHOIS protection ($2.50/year/domain).

Basically, with EV1, you get a domain and that's it, which is fine if you do your own DNS or use ZoneEdit of course. With eNom I have all my accounts in one spot and DNS in the same interface, plus access to a plethora of other options/features (with RegisterFLY anyway).

It all depends if you do your own DNS and e-mail I guess. If not, the extra eNom features are nice. Transfers can be easier too since half the freakin' world is using them, there are times when you may be transferring from one eNom reseller to another.

I don't like hosting my DNS on my web hosts DNS for convenience/consolidation purposes, reliability, and for the fact that I change hosting providers much more often than domain registrars.

To each his own I guess. :)

Oh yeah, I should mention my sites/projects are big enough to warrant their own server, and EV1's virtual hosting is overpriced and underfeatured (for a good reason, the same reason buying stuff direct from the manufacturer is often more expensive than buying it in a local retail store).

I could pay $10/month/domain at EV1 or pay $10-$15 for an unlimited domain reseller account with SSH access. Not economocial, although EV1's support is tops :)

Originally posted by kohashi
PowerPipe holds domains hostage if you try and transfer. From what I have been hearing, I would stay away from them.

I think this would violate enom's agreement with Icann. But again, Totalnic has been doing it for years

Originally posted by Akash
ev1 is an exception in the domain world. They're purposely making a about a $2 (or more) loss on each domain as a promotion; so its very unlikely you'll find another reliable company.

iregistrations.com advertises 5.99 domains, but they will automatically bill you $40/month for other services (hosting and SEO). Read the fine print there :)

ev1 buys domain names from tucows for $10 each. Their loss is greater than $10 for each name because they also loose on advertizment and pay $15? per click.
I recommend you stay away from ev1 servers because they will soon be out of business the same way as egghead.com. Of course, it will happen when their credit ends and creditors will be very angry.
Are you sure you want to loose your names or have them inaccessible?

Rumour has it they pay around 7.00 each

Originally posted by victorlee
ev1 buys domain names from tucows for $10 each. Their loss is greater than $10 for each name because they also loose on advertizment and pay $15? per click.
I recommend you stay away from ev1 servers because they will soon be out of business the same way as egghead.com. Of course, it will happen when their credit ends and creditors will be very angry.
Are you sure you want to loose your names or have them inaccessible?
Not meant to be rude, but you may want to do some more research on this. First off, EV1 does NOT pay Tucows $10. I KNOW of resellers getting $9 per name year (but that's not for those with just a thousand registrations or so). And I frankly don't think they will be out of business any sooner than many of us here. Last but not least, EVEN when they were ... gone, you can STILL manage your domain names via OpenSRS' interface.

Go for it. But, do not tell me then that I have not warned you.

Originally posted by victorlee
I recommend you stay away from ev1 servers because they will soon be out of business the same way as egghead.com. Of course, it will happen when their credit ends and creditors will be very angry.
Are you sure you want to loose your names or have them inaccessible? Well, I guess it goes to show you shouldn't believe everything you read on WHT :)

Did you get some bad service you'd like to tell us about? It might help swallow your suggesting that one of the largest dedicated hosting companies in the U.S., which seems to grow exponentially each year, is going to close it's doors soon and somehow figure out a way to disallow people who registered domains through them to manage them through the TUCOWS interface. I'm very interested to know.

If you are not under 13 you should understand that "free" is only cheese in a mouse trap. Ok, they may buy domain names from opensrs for $9 but I strongly doubt that it is less than that. Then, they invest in advertizement thousands of dollars. It seems that they pay in google $15 per click and this is only in google which gives us? on average $19 loss on every domain name if you think that they 100% buying from all clicked. What if you give this realistic figure like 10%? Their creditors will be angry sooner than you expected, this is not amazon we are talking about.

Tell me what:
Give me an example of any domain name registered through ev1.
Then, give me an example of any domain registered through them and then successfully transfered away.

You are taking a huge risk by going with the company that does not have even a renewal rate yet.

Originally posted by victorlee
... give me an example of any domain registered through them and then successfully transfered away.
Why am I defending EV1? But here it goes: industry insiders will tell you that OpenSRS/Tucows is the most user-friendly place to transfer either ownership or registrar. And since EV1 is one of their resellers, transferring domains away is hassle-free. I guess most people here have done that before.

There is always some risk with any company, but please sort through the facts before making a serious accusation.

Originally posted by victorlee
............Tell me what:
Give me an example of any domain name registered through ev1.
Then, give me an example of any domain registered through them and then successfully transfered away.

You are taking a huge risk by going with the company that does not have even a renewal rate yet.
this sounds scary!! I got a number of domains with ev1
Will try to do tranfer once the period is up...i will know then!!

Originally posted by victorlee
It seems that they pay in google $15 per click and this is only in google which gives us? on average $19 loss on every domain name if you think that they 100% buying from all clicked.


If they pay 15.00 per click they have bigger troubles. They pay more like 3-4 per click which is average.


:)

Why do you doubt it's less than $9? OpenSRS pays probably a bit more than $6/domain (if not $6) so I'd imagine Robert Marsh (CEO of EV1) got a good deal on a bulk buy of domains. The contract probably went something like "EV1 promises to purchase X number of domains before X date, in return for lower pricing." EV1 does all support, marketing, and programming for the interface, so OpenSRS would be more than willing to give lower pricing to EV1 if EV1 promises to sell a large number of domains (somewhere in the thousands or even 10,000's probably).

and btw, you can't count advertising as a direct expense to a service like domain name registration. As more domains are registered, your advertising expense per domain will decrease. It is a non-related fixed cost.

As said earlier (I think) ev1 is a loss leader -they make losses and make up those losses with sales of their other services (with MUCH higher profit margins).

Their creditors will be angry sooner than you expected, this is not amazon we are talking about.

I'm sure their creditors (if any) won't have to worry. With EV1 sponsoring many charities, AND the houston bowl this year, I'm sure they are in pretty good financial status this year.

Those are my opinions - now if I were Robert Marsh - I'd say selling domains below cost would be a HIGH risk to take for my company, but if the numbers worked out - it'd be well worth it in the end.

Originally posted by Akash
.... With EV1 sponsoring many charities, AND the houston bowl this year, I'm sure they are in pretty good financial status this year.....
Sure EV1 does a lot of charities cum sponsorship...
My salute to EV1 providing the server and bandwidth for our beloved and mighty php.net :D :D

I would go with NameBargain.com this is register.com's cheap domain site. You get the same backend infrastructure to support all your web base changes. They are at 8.88 per domain.

Originally posted by nameslave
Why am I defending EV1? But here it goes: industry insiders will tell you that OpenSRS/Tucows is the most user-friendly place to transfer either ownership or registrar. And since EV1 is one of their resellers, transferring domains away is hassle-free.
Absolutely agree, Tucows is the easiest registrar to transfer your domain away, yet very secure. The reason I registered with EV1 is because I know it will be very easy for me to transfer in case their price increase.

Registerfly sucks, but not too bad, they hold the domain for more than a week before let it go. Tucows? usually 1-2 days.

Originally posted by datums
I would go with NameBargain.com this is register.com's cheap domain site. You get the same backend infrastructure to support all your web base changes. They are at 8.88 per domain.
I ONCE THOUGHT they were my savior (that was like 3-4 years ago), now I don't have a single name there. Let's put it this way: their support is better than NetSol, AND THAT'S IT! Just imagine someone telling you that he is taller than Danny DeVito! :D

I agree about Tucows. They let all of domains go without even authorization, which sometimes can be pretty bad.

Anywhy, tucows is good. But, ev1? Ev1 will soon go out of business because of their loss.

Ev1 will soon go out of business because of their loss.

:eek: Their $2 loss is a promotion It's not a permenant price........

I sitll don't see what makes you think EV1 will go out of business? Sure, if they were selling only domains, but they aren't...

jesus, give us a break victorlee, you didn't eve read other posts except your nonsense stuff about ev1, did you?

ev1 is using tucows system, like nameslave has said, if it goes out of business, so what? tucows will take over, and no one will lose any domain. You keep saying "ev1 will go out of business" like hundred times in this post alone, people are not blind.

And how the heck you can say *without* authorization? do your homework before saying anything like that.

Originally posted by victorlee
If you are not under 13 you should understand that "free" is only cheese in a mouse trap. Ok, they may buy domain names from opensrs for $9 but I strongly doubt that it is less than that. Then, they invest in advertizement thousands of dollars. It seems that they pay in google $15 per click and this is only in google which gives us? on average $19 loss on every domain name if you think that they 100% buying from all clicked. What if you give this realistic figure like 10%? Their creditors will be angry sooner than you expected, this is not amazon we are talking about.

Tell me what:
Give me an example of any domain name registered through ev1.
Then, give me an example of any domain registered through them and then successfully transfered away.

You are taking a huge risk by going with the company that does not have even a renewal rate yet.


You really do not have a clue what you are talking about that is very clear. Have you ever done any advertising on google, I doubt it. I have and I know for a fact that you can get top ad placement for $3.00 or less per click. Not sure what your beef is with ev1, but they will be around for a long time to come.

Jim

Originally posted by victorlee
Ok, they may buy domain names from opensrs for $9 but I strongly doubt that it is less than that.Why? eNom offers domains $6.95 for bulk resellers. I admit I am not familiar with TUCOWS pricing structure, but surely they are willing to talk for the big fish.Originally posted by victorlee
Then, give me an example of any domain registered through them and then successfully transfered away.I registered the domain "strongwire.net" through EV1 and eventually transferred it to GoDaddy without a hitch.Originally posted by victorlee
You are taking a huge risk by going with the company that does not have even a renewal rate yet. Why? Transfer it to another registrar if their renew rate is too high! I know you think they'll hold it hostage, but that's when you contact TUCOWS and ICANN and have it remedied post haste.

Seriously, are you an eNom reseller or something and bitter you can get $5 wholesale domains?

Here's a survey of some registrars that I run on my site for comparison:

Company (1 Year .Com Registration Fee)
Bigfoot ($4.95)
EV1Servers ($5.00)
1&1 Internet Inc. ($5.99) - Web Site says 'Coming Soon'
Hostway ($6.95) - Includes Domain Parking
Web.com ($6.95) - Includes 1 Page Site
GoDaddy ($7.95) - Transfers are $6.95
Aplus.Net ($7.95)
RegisterFly ($9.99)
NameSecure ($15.00)
Interland ($16.00)
Verio ($19.00)
Register.com ($35.00)
Network Solutions ($35.00)

Originally posted by cpureview
Company (1 Year .Com Registration Fee)
Bigfoot ($4.95)
EV1Servers ($5.00)
1&1 Internet Inc. ($5.99) - Web Site says 'Coming Soon'
Hostway ($6.95) - Includes Domain Parking
Web.com ($6.95) - Includes 1 Page Site
GoDaddy ($7.95) - Transfers are $6.95
Aplus.Net ($7.95)
RegisterFly ($9.99)
NameSecure ($15.00)
Interland ($16.00)
Verio ($19.00)
Register.com ($35.00)
Network Solutions ($35.00)
You forgot to insert NameCheap in the big gap between :

Aplus.Net ($7.95)
NameCheap($8.88)
RegisterFly ($9.99)
:D :D

Your pricing is outdated:
bigfoot $9.95/year .com
godady $7.95/yr .com transfers: $7.95
others: did not check

Just wanted to let you know your prices are wrong.

Ev1 is big domain names scam as well as Enom.
Take a definition of tax of $0.41 from ev1, what is that?

Ev1 looses more than $19 per domain name and they have about 1,415 registrations per day, that gives us a loss of about $30K per day. NICE!!!

Good luck to all of you with the whole ev1 thing.

Ev1 is big domain names scam as well as Enom.
Take a definition of tax of $0.41 from ev1, what is that?

I've got domains at both EV1 and Enom - I'm satisfied.

As for the Tax - that's required by Texas....ask EV1 sales for why they charge it and they'll tell you.

Ev1 looses more than $19 per domain name and they have about 1,415 registrations per day, that gives us a loss of about $30K per day. NICE!!!
Where are you getting that they're losing $19 /domain?

Question: Where do you register your domains?

Originally posted by victorlee
Your pricing is outdated:
bigfoot $9.95/year .com
godady $7.95/yr .com transfers: $7.95
others: did not check

Just wanted to let you know your prices are wrong.

Ev1 is big domain names scam as well as Enom.
Take a definition of tax of $0.41 from ev1, what is that?

Ev1 looses more than $19 per domain name and they have about 1,415 registrations per day, that gives us a loss of about $30K per day. NICE!!!

Good luck to all of you with the whole ev1 thing.

I think maybe you should be banned from these boards, for making up blatant lies, you have no way to back up anything you are saying, so IMHO, that makes it a lie, and also possible slander.

Was I wrong in pricing?
No.


As far as loss. The loss per domain name is an average estimation based on 4 years experience in domain name marketing. The average number of registrations can be obtained from http://www.dailychanges.com
which will give you domain names parked at ev1 servers. They could have more registrations that would only mean they have more loss.

Another question to all of you:
How is it possible that ev1 is not ICANN accreditted? With all their money would not they want it? Or, may be, they do not have enough specialists? And, frankly, their web site looks very unprofessional, very unprofessional Q&A sections and all in general.

Tucows is good. I am buying my domain names from Tucows.

Enom, well that's another story, at least they are ICANN acreditted.

I am actually amazed how simple it is to buy people like you for ev1 and enom, and droa, and godaddy and other scams.

Always, have some critics and think before you do something.

Originally posted by victorlee
I am actually amazed how simple it is to buy people like you for ev1 and enom, and droa, and godaddy and other scams.You give the impression that any registrar except TUCOWS (even resellers, regardless of accreditation) are scams. These registrars have millions of customers worldwide. You are entitled to your own opinion, of course, but what what IS a decent registrar? Network Solution? ;)

I think we're all curious - where do you register your domains? Also, what were your reasons for selecting that registrar? Did you have personal bad experiences with other registrars before choosing your current one?

You obviously feel very strongly about this topic and I think sharing with us more details than "they are all going to fail" and "they are all scams" will help make everyone more educated.

BTW, I found your dailychanges.com link quite interesting.

gkg, nameit.net are pretty good.
I use tucows, they have their own minuses such as: on Saturdays and Sundays, their servers are very unstable and they like to rest on these days. That is pretty bad for them. Other than that they are very conservative about their pricing. They also look more impressive than they actually are because almost all of the hosting providers are working for them.
All in all tucows is a good company. I have also used corenic registrars and they were pretty slow because of their email templates technology.
I, of course, consider the best registrars are NetSol and Tucows and I do not see any other registrar who is better than those guys. Of course, Netsol is a monopoly and that is not good but they pay for root servers, am I right?
Of course, monopoly is pretty bad thing and ICANN is doing nothing to make real competition. Right now, there is no competition. One registry for one tld. This is not competition. This is a nice way to make more money from the same thing.

victorlee: I guess you are unaware that EV1 has arround 17.000 dedicated servers (probably more now) under their roof and is currently building another data center? Not to mention their dialup and broadband customers, shared hosting, etc.

You could try to estimate their daily revenue and compare that with just the figures connected with domain registration and advertising. You might come to the conclusion why I find this thread so funny ;) Because I really do :D

Besides, IMHO, they are not losing much more than $1 per domain or even less - if you compare purchasing / selling prices, without additional costs (programming, staff, servers etc.). If it's more than that, Headsurfer probably wouldn't have chosen Tucows because there would be no good reason to chose them.

As far as advertising go - he isn't advertising just the domains, he's advertising the whole site along with them. That's the point of the whole domain business.

Btw, I'm not purchasing domains there... I'm paying way less than $7 elsewhere and see no reason to switch.

You are mistaken. Ev1 advertize domain names and people only buy domain names from them. Why would they need hosting from some unkown company as ev1? They have no name. I have not heard about them anything untill their scam with $5 domain names.
Tucows charges them not less than $9. This I know for sure. A loss is a loss.

Originally posted by victorlee
I have not heard about them anything untill their scam with $5 domain names.You may not have heard about them (RackShack) but they have been on everybody else's radar for years. I leased my first server from them in late 2000. You must not visit WHT very often if you've never heard of RackShack/EV1. I wouldn't be surprised if half the people here have servers from them.

They are may be very good in hosting. But, in domain names, they are lamers.

I am so glad this guy is banned. I'm so tired of seeing him bashing EV1 with his ridiculous and uneducated comments.

I haven't noticed him elsewhere, but I see he signed up in "Dec 2003" and already has 58 comments. Perhaps he had a bad experience with EV1 and has been peppering the forums with negative comments in retaliation?

This is probably the wrong place to do what? :)

Cheers,
Daniel

Originally posted by newk
I have problems using EV1 for domain registration
there system says my IP address is blocked.

every IP address i used and tried to register new domain ev1 says IP address is blocked. :(

I need to register new domain ASAP.

Whats the altenative to EV1 with $6 and below range for .com domains?

havent experienced any problems as of yet :)

Originally posted by The Spook
Perhaps he had a bad experience with EV1 and has been peppering the forums with negative comments in retaliation?

This is probably the wrong place to do what? :)


He's free to express whatever he likes, providing the info is accurate and not bashing with no proof. This guy never claimed that he registered with EV1, yet he calls them "scam" for no reason, including enom.

Thumbs up to the mods.