About 3 months ago we had a designer that would and did copy other sites. We had no idea about this till kiwi (I think it was) let us know. He had copied a few sites from here as well and to put it mildly, it really pissed me off when I found out. Well it seems it may have happened again.
I can't seem to find anything at all copied from their site, to our site but I have to say that they do resemble, thus I want to get everyone's idea on what we should do. We don't feel anything was blatantly taken from their site (and yes we do own the rights to the pics of the girl) and their webmaster seems to think he owns "ideas", according to the email we received. If that were the case, the person who "got the IDEA" for the search engine concept better grab a lawyer and start suing GoTo, Lycos, MSN, Yahoo, etc.


http://www.adulthostpod.com

and

http://www.adultdata.net

We do feel the sites resemble somewhat however we do not feel the site was stolen from them, as we utilize all the same operating systems and the Coblat servers that are on the front of the site.

I'm, at times still AnIdiot; but them's the same design IMHO.

Originally posted by AdultDataNeT
About 3 months ago we had a designer that would and did copy other sites. We had no idea about this till kiwi (I think it was) let us know. He had copied a few sites from here as well and to put it mildly, it really pissed me off when I found out. Well it seems it may have happened again.
I can't seem to find anything at all copied from their site, to our site but I have to say that they do resemble, thus I want to get everyone's idea on what we should do. We don't feel anything was blatantly taken from their site (and yes we do own the rights to the pics of the girl) and their webmaster seems to think he owns "ideas", according to the email we received. If that were the case, the person who "got the IDEA" for the search engine concept better grab a lawyer and start suing GoTo, Lycos, MSN, Yahoo, etc.


http://www.adulthostpod.com

and

http://www.adultdata.net

We do feel the sites resemble somewhat however we do not feel the site was stolen from them, as we utilize all the same operating systems and the Coblat servers that are on the front of the site.

To all webhostingtalk members:
i am astonished that this message has been posted here,as the vice president of Adultdata.net (Vortechhosting.com) has already admitted that they have copied our site,and said that they used a local web design company to design their site and that they will be taking the site down,and now the president of the company goes ahead and posts here,as i had told him that if he does not take the site down,i will post a message here about what they have done

i found:
http://www.adultdata.net thru this board we have contacted adultdata.net thru email and requested that they remove their site,due to the fact that they have directly copied our site,ideas,layout.and even our pricing and plans.
Adultdata.net is a subsidiary of Vortechhosting.com which if you do a quick search on this board you will see that they have copied other companies sites:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15030&highlight=vortechhosting

I only have posted one advertising offer on this site here:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20515
and we did a good reponse from the design ascpect,and they even copied exactly the meta tags as well.i suspect he saw our site from that post.

Its painfully obvious that only a minimual amount of information and graphic was changed between the site. As to who stole from who...well I have no clue there, but the fact is, one DEFINATLY stole from the other. To say otherwise would be just a blatent lie.

We wanted comparison opinions on the 2 sites, that's it. We know we had a designer copying sites (as we stated in our ORIGINAL post) and we are trying to clean up our network of sites. We never said we were not willing to re-design the site, as you are going out of your way to imply. As far as an admission of copying the site, I have not seen the email that you received from the VP and he has limited knowledge regarding design aspects, as it is.

In regards to this http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15030&highlight=vortechhosting If you had taken the time to LOOK at Vortech's site before throwing this in you would have REALIZED that the entire site has been re-designed.

We are willing to re-design the site and as I stated at the beginning, we were looking for comparison opinions. That's all.

Originally posted by AdultDataNeT
I can't seem to find anything at all copied from their site, to our site but I have to say that they do resemble, thus I want to get everyone's idea on what we should do.

What you should do is either take down and redesign the site if you agree with the other host, or leave it up if you do not. This isn't a matter of public discussion, it is a matter of possible copyright infrigement.

Are the sites similar? Yep. Was one derived from another? I'd say if not, then it was a rather odd coincidence. Is it enough for them to win a judgement against you? That I don't know, as it ain't my area of expertise.

If you don't want to take the site down, and neither of you feel this is important enough to pursue in a court of law, then why worry about it...

You might want to discuss this with the AdultHostPod owner directly and find out what is going on. I don't know ...both designs look good and its hard to decide between black & blonde hair :D :blush:

Originally posted by crow


To all webhostingtalk members:
i am astonished that this message has been posted here,as the vice president of Adultdata.net (Vortechhosting.com) has already admitted that they have copied our site,and said that they used a local web design company to design their site and that they will be taking the site down,and now the president of the company goes ahead and posts here,as i had told him that if he does not take the site down,i will post a message here about what they have done


Aloha
I say there is a fine line to be drawn when blamming a hosting company that hired a developer/designer to make a site and they are similiar
unless you gave the designer exact instructions etc.... you are usually out of luck
your content can be recreated and copyright can be infringed
but an artist unless they sign over rights to there work they can do what they want with it including reselling it to another client.

so if you buy a design make sure you get in writing that this is your design and no likeness shall be used again.
if it is not in writing the courts will side with the creator of the graphics (this is looks not content)

so go after the designer not the hosting company let the hosting comapny know but if they used the same designer well they are both at fault for not getting it in writing that they will have a unique design.
you will let the designer go to redo this again adn again
cut it off at the source sue teh designer and make him stop

there are so many designers/ copiers that are not creative and have to steal to make a living and people that hire these cheap designers keep them in business. A good design cost $$ that is a fact because the creative time to be original etc... is $$
just like quality programming hosting anything.
again you get what you pay for.

you think some of the people bitching about this would learn from there mistakes ????

Originally posted by Honu


Aloha
I say there is a fine line to be drawn when blamming a hosting company that hired a developer/designer to make a site and they are similiar
unless you gave the designer exact instructions etc.... you are usually out of luck
your content can be recreated and copyright can be infringed
but an artist unless they sign over rights to there work they can do what they want with it including reselling it to another client.


We have our own hard working designers that do not do any outside work at all,we designed the layout,design,and content from scratch.

Originally posted by crow


We have our own hard working designers that do not do any outside work at all,we designed the layout,design,and content from scratch.

Aloha
sorry did not mean your site ;)
if you have original deisgners

meant those that hire designers in good faith

it is sad these designers are crooked and remind me of the same class of people that go around scamming and ripping people off.

so that's what Cobalt RaQ's are for:D

On a serious note - it may be understandable that a company may get ripped off by a designer who steals another site, but even the pricing is the same and the plans are similar in lots of respects and unless I am mistaken thats not something a designer would be involved, surely your business development/marketing team should be doing this?

If I saw one site - and then stumbled across the other a few days later...I would swear it was the same site.

--Tina

Re-design in about done ( http://www.adultdata.net ).. Let me know what you think guys.. Crow sorry for the trouble but the site is done and does not come close to yours.. ;) If any one sees any problems let me know..