I currently run a UBB on my Raq (256mb ram). I'm thinking about switching to vBulletin. Anyone have any experience with it?

I have about 2100 members now. I know that UBB is pretty server intensive. How is vBulletin?

thanks

Well, I'm pretty sure vBulletin will use lesser resources than UBB. I cant give you exact figures, but its definitely worth the transition.

how often are you going to ask this?

UBB is intensive on the server's disk system, vB is intensive on the CPU and memory

that is fact. vB is using dynamic system, UBB a static page system.

use SCSI + fast CPU and a UBB will be going great also with more than 500 users online. Or give vB 2GB RAM + 1Ghz and it will be fine also.

because of the poor CPU a vB with more than 100 user online might get little slow.

I've only asked this question once. And that was before I moved to a dedicated server.

Now, I'm asking which is better on a Rackshack Raq4?

I like the features of vb. I've added several hacks to ubb, but I'm ready to spend less time on hacks and more time on adding content.

thanks

Originally posted by pgowder
I've only asked this question once. And that was before I moved to a dedicated server.

Now, I'm asking which is better on a Rackshack Raq4?


ok ;)

A Raq4 is not a machine done for dynamic content. and all boards are dealing with very dynamic pages. vB also with mysql.

I have seen some topics at vBulletin.com dealing with the same problem. all think a Raq4 can hadle nothing, but some say they have on a Raq4i with 512 MB RAM ~100 user online at the same time and a great speed ...

A Raq runs as far as I know just with DMA33 mode, so the disk system is also not that well. not that well for a UBB. But because a UBB is not as dynamic as a vB I would say, that it could handle even more than 100 user at once on a Raq4.

As I have seen, you have now webmaster, Jacques and 4 guests on your forums. so try a raq. It will do a good job for you, with UBB as well as with vB.

I like the features of vb. I've added several hacks to ubb, but I'm ready to spend less time on hacks and more time on adding content. If you allready have done all hacks, why changing to vB?

The board is on a Raq 4i now with 256 mb of ram.

I'm looking to move because vb has even more features I need, like calendar, polls, etc.

And, about the who's online, I average probably 25 people online during the week. But that is growing. I hit 42 this past week.

I think the calendar feature is the least used feature ever. ;) I belive there is also a poll hack for a UBB6.

I would not spend $180 for this features. one you can add with a hack (but I am not sure at this point).

just try the UBB if it is too slow or the server load too huge you can still change :)

Sounds like a good idea.

thanks

I personally have a site on my raq that has spiked to 27 users online.. i happend to check the load when it was a 25 users steady... the results were a load of .12 over a 15 min period.. ( thats with 10 other dynamic site on the server itself).

I'm running a RAQ 4 and i host several vbb boards. One has about 30-40 users at a time the other boards about 5 to 15 each, so together i have about 50-60 users at a time with peaks even higher.
Server load normally stays under 0.5(normal = 0.2) unless maintanance is done to the database or something, then it will go to 0.8

So i would say. vbb works fine.

The load is also a little bit managable. You can turn "persistent connections", this will also lower the load a bit. Also turning of search features with a *.

I have a fairly busy UBB message board that averages about 100-125 people on it at any given time.

There is currently over 4,000 nickanmes registered now though.

If I did a switch over to VBulletin is there anyway to convert all the UBB member files over to the VBulletin format?

Or would everyone just have to reregister and start off at zero posts?

I think they have a conversion util..
check out their site..

-Crazy

yes, there is an import script

There are threads about this over at www.vbulletin.com

I use a RAQ4i with 256MB and run VB 2.0.3 very well. I have 5000 defined and about 40 concurrently active users. I have heard of up to 300 active users working on an identical server but I would imagine that you could safely plan for 100 active users.

In terms of UBB, VB 2.0.3 is likely to have a lower resource use than UBB 6 at this point in time, until they tune UBB 6. I gave up the wait and lost patience with InfoPop whose attitude to customers did not please me at all. I have no regrets about moving to VB whatsoever, a database is so much better than flat files.

Thanks, that is exactly the way I feel. I like UBB, but I'm growing tired of waiting for them to come out with the new features.

Are you running anything else on the RaQ? Any other scripts/databases?

What is your server load like?

I don't run much else, some Perl scripts for banners.

If you have any other scripting application on the same server, then it is going to reduce your capacity for VB users.

I would say VB is far less CPU intensive than UBB (even V5), but probably needs more memory. But you won't get the CGI overhead that UBB has for one thing.

256MB should be fine for 100 concurrently active users IMHO.

I actually ran VB on a shared virtual server for several weeks with no real problems other than concurrent MySQL connections being limited by my host.

On your own RAQ VB should be fine and you can always tune it up.

My CPU load average is 0.18 with 26 active users.